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Post by DeletedUser#1 Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:51 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Wilshere or Paulinho? hmm

Is this a serious question rofl ?

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Post by Rossoneri Ninja Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:06 pm

Paulinho is better

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Post by Lex Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:06 pm

What's a Paulinho?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:18 pm

Harry Redknapp wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Wilshere or Paulinho? hmm

Is this a serious question rofl ?

Have you ever seen him play? then don't laugh then.

Because he doesn't play in europe doesn't make him a scrub.

Ignorance No wouldn't surprise me at all if Wilshere fails to deliver like every single time he has played for England.

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Post by DeletedUser#1 Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:21 pm

Stop trolling mate.

To be honest, I don't even know what Paulinho looks like, maybe because I only watch 2-3 EPL games every week, and not like GL's full time scouts who somehow find the time to watch 15 games in a weekend Laughing


Anyways, he is not as good as Wilshere, because I think Wilshere will get into 95% of team's XI , whereas Paulinho is playing for a mediocre team close to the Amazon jungles #inbeforeworldchampions

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm

How do you know he's not as good as Wilshere if you don't even though what it looks like? lol.

Wait and see i have not seen him often but when i have he usually bosses the game.

Not like he's alone anyway he's surrounded by legitimate talent, where as lets be real Gerrard aside England is mediocre.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:28 pm

Wilshere and Carrick are mediocre? hmm

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Post by Lex Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:30 pm

Roonay mediocre? hmm
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Post by Rossoneri Ninja Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:30 pm

It would be quite historic to see an English midfield outplay a Brazilian midfield, i don't think i've ever witnessed something like that Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:30 pm

I'll be surprised if Carrick is playing as he never plays for England Laughing

And i was including Wilshere alongside Gerrard the rest is meh, as far as the midfield goes.

Why do you think we never win anything? we are meh, its time to accept it.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:40 pm

Maybe the reason why we don't win anything is the tactics? hmm

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Post by Rossoneri Ninja Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:45 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Maybe the reason why we don't win anything is the tactics? hmm

What other tactic can England implement but long ball to the wings and cross ? You imagine them playing intricate passes at a quick tempo?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:48 pm

This is the team apparently....

Hart, Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Cole, Cleverley, Wilshere, Gerrard, Walcott, Welbeck, Rooney.

Cole is past it, Jagielka and Cahill are the epitome of average, Walcott needs to space to work and he won't get it at international level, Welbeck and Cleverly? LOL.

Hart is extremely mistake prone and Johnson while very good going forward lacks any sort of positional skills or defensive awareness(ib4 enraged Pool fans)

So really only Wilshere, Gerrard and Rooney can be trusted and Wilshere hasn't exactly lit the International stage as of yet.

We might very well win as any one can win a friendly, but if you expect anything more than average going forward till 2014 with this team you're quite naive.
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Post by Gil Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:52 pm

Moal :facepalm:

That's actually one of England's better lineups in recent memory.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:53 pm

Gil wrote:Moal :facepalm:

That's actually one of England's better lineups in recent memory.

Which says everything you need to know about us.
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:58 pm

Cahill's a pretty solid defender, Cole isn't past it, Walcott should be trying to get into goalscoring positions, not trying to dribble like a generic winger and crossing it in.

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Post by Gil Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:59 pm

The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:00 pm

Gil wrote:The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.
What are your 2014 WC expectations?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:00 pm

Gil wrote:The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.

I'll believe that when i see it.
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Post by Gil Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:15 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Gil wrote:The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.
What are your 2014 WC expectations?

Depends on how Sturridge, Wilshere, Zaha, McEachran, Cleverley etc develop over the next 12-14 months.


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Gil wrote:The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.

I'll believe that when i see it.

If that's what you say breh.
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:17 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:This is the team apparently....

Hart, Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Cole, Cleverley, Wilshere, Gerrard, Walcott, Welbeck, Rooney.

Hoping for:

Hart
Johnson - Cahill - Jagielka - Cole
Cleverley Gerrard Wilshere
Rooney
Walcott Welbeck

Instead of a 4-3-3....
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Post by Onyx Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:18 pm

4-3-1-2 won't allow the good lads to run down the wing and whip the ball into the box. :coffee:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:22 pm

Gil wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Gil wrote:The culture has changed in England, stop being so pessimistic.
What are your 2014 WC expectations?

Depends on how Sturridge, Wilshere, Zaha, McEachran, Cleverley etc develop over the next 12-14 months.
How much development can you realistically hope for in a year?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:27 pm

Zaha, McEachran and Cleverly rofl

Always amuses me how long it takes people to accept players are never going to come good.

Ince is miles better than that overrated scrub Zaha anyway, but that isn't enough regardless.

This happens every time there's a new generation and every single time we are disappointed because over-hype and overrate our players.

You would think people would learn :facepalm:

Even Wilshere as ridiculously talented as he is is getting over-hyped to all hell atm.
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Post by Gil Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:43 pm

Did I say they were guaranteed superstars you clown? They're the standout players of the next generation, how they turn out over the next year or so will determine how much noise we can make in Brazil.
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Post by nasir6371 Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:41 pm

Bad miss by Nerman
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