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Post by The BoyWonder Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:23 pm

will post later my full opinion on this subject, as i dont have time r8 now...

english youngsters = too overhyped even if they are actually good,
brazllian youngsters = theyy recieve fair amount of hype, but its nothing compared to some talented english kids. if neymar or ganso were english, you had all the english media making them balon dor contenders.



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Post by Gil Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:26 pm

Neymar = Messi > Ronaldo - his agent
Lucas = £70m buyout clause
Ganso - Brazillian Zidane
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:27 pm

brazllian youngsters = theyy recieve fair amount of hype, but its nothing compared to some talented english kids. if neymar or ganso were english, you had all the english media making them balon dor contenders.

Not so. Name one youngster who has been hyped to such a degree. Someone saying "he'll be an excellent/world class player" isn't the same as "he'll be a Balon d'Or contender".

I don't think there's a single English kid at the moment that's received as much hype as Neymar and Paulo Henrique.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:28 pm

Lucas is such a beast, the buy out is just to grab attention... i think
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Post by Iceman Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:28 pm

The hype that Neymar is receiving makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

On the other hand, who has over-hyped Sturridge? Not many...
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:02 am

i honestly think that some people in these forums refuse to understand (there just isnt any other explanation).The huge buyout fees are because the clubs want european teams nowhere near those 3 youngsters (lucas,neymar and ganso).

and the only overrating ive seen is was the neymar's agent troll.
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Post by lenear1030 Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:10 am

Iceman wrote:The hype that Neymar is receiving makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

On the other hand, who has over-hyped Sturridge? Not many...


sturridge is the real deal too (not hyping)
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Post by aunshi Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:38 am

lenear1030 wrote:
Iceman wrote:The hype that Neymar is receiving makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

On the other hand, who has over-hyped Sturridge? Not many...


sturridge is the real deal too (not hyping)

I just wish Capello would work that out. Or at least give him a chance.

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Post by S Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:55 am

it depends on the media as well..english media is kind of a'global media' TBH so they would generate more interest as well especially considering there r many english speaking countries..so definitely IMO english players are more overhyped
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Post by gkamtu Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:11 am

totally different english player depends on academies but brazillian player having talents and football skills....so neva match...
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Post by Lex Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:56 am

Everyone seems to get their knickers in a twist about anything related to England and English football, so this thread is going to reek of bias, even though guys like Wilshere receive praise in proportion to thier performances, while Ganso and Neymar are talked about like they're the second coming of Christ and the big G
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Post by BeautifulGame Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:26 am

English youngsters arent more hyped but over priced thats because PL is more richer than Brazilian league and can afford to pay .

Its like suggesting Brazilian players are mercenaries because they move abroad to play unlike English players .
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Post by Brigate Rossonere Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:35 am

Only on an English forum....<br>
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Post by Catracho Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:13 am

when you have a youngster that can do the cool stuff our players can do.. then give me a call kay.. until then...

Someone made a thread on comparing Brazilian hype on their youngsters against the English and not a f*** was given that day. :coffee: stay thirsty my friends
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Post by Lord Hades Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:19 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:
brazllian youngsters = theyy recieve fair amount of hype, but its nothing compared to some talented english kids. if neymar or ganso were english, you had all the english media making them balon dor contenders.

Not so. Name one youngster who has been hyped to such a degree. Someone saying "he'll be an excellent/world class player" isn't the same as "he'll be a Balon d'Or contender".

I don't think there's a single English kid at the moment that's received as much hype as Neymar and Paulo Henrique.

jack wilshire? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:55 am

Fact is, if David Seaman had a tad more positional sense, Brazil would have never had 5 world cups

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Post by Grande_Milano Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:05 am

Sepi wrote:Fact is, if David Seaman had a tad more positional sense, Brazil would have never had 5 world cups

England stand no chance against Rivaldo-RC3-Ronaldo in over time. Blame Beckham for taking his legs off in that tackle that led to first goal



On topic: Hype England receives is unbelievable. Walcott was considered something extraodinary when he was 16. Yet, highest he can get is a good winger, no world class.
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Post by uzonero Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:30 pm

English hype is second to none
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Post by BeautifulGame Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:59 pm

Sepi wrote:Fact is, if David Seaman had a tad more positional sense, Brazil would have never had 5 world cups

That doesnt mean England would have won their 2nd though . Most probably Germany would have added their fourth .
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Post by Ali Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:10 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
Sepi wrote:Fact is, if David Seaman had a tad more positional sense, Brazil would have never had 5 world cups

England stand no chance against Rivaldo-RC3-Ronaldo in over time. Blame Beckham for taking his legs off in that tackle that led to first goal



On topic: Hype England receives is unbelievable. Walcott was considered something extraodinary when he was 16. Yet, highest he can get is a good winger, no world class.

Why ? Walcott has just as much potential as anyone else, your just under-rating him cuz hes been around for a while.

Also , Jacky received all the hype after his great performances, and he did succeed in impressing after the hype. But everyone out of Brazil is the next____________________( insert great legend here)
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