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Post by Pedram Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:23 pm

El Gunner wrote:first time i've heard of All Quiet on the Western Front... i've been numb to war movies for a while now, so can't say i'm hyped. Last decent war movie i recall was Hacksaw Ridge.


I'm assuming you're not an avid book reader as most people have read All Quiet on the Western Front at some point in their life, the book is consistently considered the greatest war novel ever written, It is taught in school and pretty much beloved by everyone who has read it.

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Post by Vibe Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:43 pm

Arquitecto wrote:More excited for Oppenheimer than Ive been excited for any Nolan film. Glad he didn't go for another inception re-do cause Tenet just plain sucked.

Cillian Murphy is world class and seeing him in such a starring role is odd but he will knock it out. Teaser sent a chill down me spine.


I kind of liked Tenet it just bothered me that I didn't understand it. When I really think about it I do understand it, but as things happen in the moment I don't unless I think about it, which isn't ideal in a movie tbh.

Maybe I'm just stupid.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:04 pm

Nothing to do with stupidity.

Tenet was trash. It was complex for the sake of it and zero substance to it bar its very good cast to which they barely made use of.

Nolan in general is a bit overrated despite some world class hits as his best films are his more understated ones from Prestige to yes, even Dunkirk.

Oppenheimer ist exactly what I feel he needed to do not another sci-fi rehash of huge scale, but character driven and on the highly rated Cillian Murphy.

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Post by El Gunner Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:06 pm

Tenet was good. Not tier 1 Nolan, but certainly not trash and definitely better than the pretentious shit that was Dunkirk. Nolan is the best and most consistent director overall of the 2000s.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:19 pm

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El Gunner wrote:first time i've heard of All Quiet on the Western Front... i've been numb to war movies for a while now, so can't say i'm hyped. Last decent war movie i recall was Hacksaw Ridge.

I'm assuming you're not an avid book reader as most people have read All Quiet on the Western Front at some point in their life, the book is consistently considered the greatest war novel ever written, It is taught in school and pretty much beloved by everyone who has read it.

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Post by Arquitecto Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:09 am

Calling Dunkirk pretentious when Tenet came across as arrogant and pretentious as it did makes little sense. Dunkirk is critically acclaimed heavily and was a brilliant retelling from the British perspective of the Great War. Tenet relied on a lot of bells and whistles for it to come together as the product it did, to which was underwhelming as a whole and a poor restructuring of Inception.

Nolan being called the best when there are men like Denis Villeneuve and so forth also makes little sense.

That being said I sincerely hope Oppenheimer hits all time critical success for him. Very much looking forward to it.
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Post by El Gunner Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:54 am

Nolan has more to his resume than Villeneuve, Villeneuve needs to stack up a bit more before he can overtake him imo. He definitely has the quality and vision though to do so. And we probably already saw the best of Nolan from Memento to Interstellar.

also you say that as if Tenet was shitted on critically... they're two very different movies. Just because a few old white Academy members loved the WW2 propaganda doesn't mean your average viewer enjoyed it. In fact, i remember initial reviews being very divisive for Dunkirk.

My Nolan tiers:
Tier 1:
Inception
Memento
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight Rises
Interstellar

Tier 2:
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Tenet
Insomnia

Tier 3:
Dunkirk


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Post by M99 Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:06 am

NOPE gets a big YUP from me. Amazing cinematography, literally every shot is a beauty. I dug the theme of exploitation. Get Out>NOPE>Us for me.
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Post by Arquitecto Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:15 am

El Gunner wrote:Nolan has more to his resume than Villeneuve, Villeneuve needs to stack up a bit more before he can overtake him imo. He definitely has the quality and vision though to do so. And we probably already saw the best of Nolan from Memento to Interstellar.

also you say that as if Tenet was shitted on critically... they're two very different movies. Just because a few old white Academy members loved the WW2 propaganda doesn't mean your average viewer enjoyed it. In fact, i remember initial reviews being very divisive for Dunkirk.

My Nolan tiers:
Tier 1:
Inception
Memento
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight Rises
Interstellar

Tier 2:
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Tenet
Insomnia

Tier 3:
Dunkirk




You rating Prestige and Insomnia that low comparatively to the rest tells me we just won't agree on this.

More so Dark Knight in Tier 2 whereas the weakest of the 3 in the trilogy in Tier 2 is a baffling choice.

Fact about Nolan is that a lot of his fellow team are also who do the best work in which they are not credited for from his editor to Jonathan Nolan who creates most of the stories.
Vilenueve on a technical level is just a more balanced director who doesn't rely on the gimmicks that Nolan is prone to.

And we are speaking of viewer ratings.

Tenet has 7.3 on IMDB

Dunkirk has 7.8. Which is an elite rating.

IMDB ratings you must admit are very reliable rankings in that sense given its the largest film source and of ratings.

You and I just like different types of Nolan films if we notice our differences so mostly subjective films.

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Post by El Gunner Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:29 am

exactly 7.3 isn't far off 7.8

Filmmaking is a team job, so i never get when people use that argument against Nolan.

Lots of the younger generation are finally starting to see the light on the Dark Knight Rises and it's making me so happy. It's gone through a cultural reappreciation in recent years. Always knew it was the shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeW2fOomi0g
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Post by Arquitecto Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:20 pm

EG wrote:also you say that as if Tenet was shitted on critically... they're two very different movies. Just because a few old white Academy members loved the WW2 propaganda doesn't mean your average viewer enjoyed it. In fact, i remember initial reviews being very divisive for Dunkirk.

IMDB comparison was in context to this, to which the average viewers clearly loved it more.

7.3 to 7.8 on the scale of the votes is actually huge. Many 7.3 films on there, very few 7.8 films.


TDKR initially I didn't like at all.

Recent viewing of it via big screen I tremendously enjoyed it and saw it as brilliant. I can't see the new trilogy holding a candle to Nolan's.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:16 am

Vibe wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:More excited for Oppenheimer than Ive been excited for any Nolan film. Glad he didn't go for another inception re-do cause Tenet just plain sucked.

Cillian Murphy is world class and seeing him in such a starring role is odd but he will knock it out. Teaser sent a chill down me spine.


I kind of liked Tenet it just bothered me that I didn't understand it. When I really think about it I do understand it, but as things happen in the moment I don't unless I think about it, which isn't ideal in a movie tbh.

Maybe I'm just stupid.


A shame for most ppl that they didnt seem to understand it on first viewing, dunno why but I read many was due to Nolan making the sound/music too loud and conversations volume too low so it was near impossible to ppl to know whats gonig on first time round. I also had to rewatch n look online for explanations b4 I fully appreciate Tenet which was masterpiece Razz
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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:19 am

Just saw Three Thousand Years of Longing, no idea what it was about just the way I like to avoid knowing much b4 seeing movies cos otherwise it could spoil the experience with too much anticipation or just knowing too much in advance. Definitely love it and one of my favs already Very Happy Never understood the hype with George Miller/Fury Road although I thought it was amazing movie, anyway, I definitely appreciate him now. What a movie he made at the age of like 76ish.
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Post by Robespierre Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:57 pm

Licorice Pizza is great , isn't it ?
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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:21 pm

ehh I didn't like it... I don't like when Paul Thomas Anderson does unconventional non-narrative films (Licorice Pizza, Inherent Vice). There Will Be Blood, The Master and Phantom Thread is more my cup of tea. I used to like Magnolia too, but recently tried to watch it again and couldn't finish it.
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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:23 pm

Thoughts on some recent Netflix releases:
Blonde is absolute hogwash
Entergalactic is awesome!
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Post by CBarca Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:54 am

Banshees of Inisherin was fantastic. Perhaps McDonagh's best work yet
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Post by El Gunner Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:00 am

everyone go watch this now - https://letterboxd.com/film/barbarian-2022/

movie of the year thus far
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Post by El Gunner Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aedu3v-lWn4

brilliant
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Post by McAgger Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:47 pm

My rankings for the year. Haven't seen a lot of stuff but among what I saw, this is my ranking for now.

So I have a made up, dumb, arbitrary scoring system. Getting into the 8s and above is a big deal. I usually rate a lot of films between 7.5-7.9 which is kind of like good flicks but not really great.

2022 Films
Thirteen Lives - 8.4
Top Gun: Maverick - 8.4
Cha Cha real Smooth - 8.3
Barbarian - 8.2
The Batman - 8.2
The Outfit - 8.1
Bullet Train - 8.0
Fresh - 8.0
Three Thousand Years of Longing - 8.0
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Nope - 7.9
Watcher - 7.9
The Black Phone (2021) - 7.9
The Northman - 7.9
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - 7.9


8.5 or above is really where start I rating incredible films. So nothing has really captured me like that this year, I don't think.

For reference for 2020s (only 3 films broke the 8.5 barrier so far):

2021 Films:
Dune - 9.0
The Last Duel - 8.5

Nightmare Alley - 8.3
Belfast - 8.3
CODA - 8.2
Oxygen - 8.1
Zack Snyder’s Justice League - 8.1
Last night in Soho - 8.0
Judas and the Black Messiah - 8.0
No Sudden Move - 8.0


2020 Films:
The Father - 8.6
Sound of Metal - 8.4
Promising Young Woman - 8.3
Emma - 8.1
Tenet - 8.0
The Trial of the Chicago 7 - 8.0


2019 alone had 6 movies break the 8.5 barrier for me haha. What a year for film that was.
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Post by M99 Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:24 pm

@McAgger here are some recommendations for you from the last two years.

Banshees of Inisherin
All Quiet on the Western Front
Drive My Car
Worst Person In The World
Tick Tick Boom
Palm Springs
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Post by El Gunner Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:40 pm

he's only gunna log in and post in 6 months again Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:04 am

Best movie I've seen this year is : Triangle of sadness
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Post by CBarca Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:52 am

Yeah I found the Northman super disappointing. I was hyped for it, and I just didn't love it. It was enjoyable enough. It's not a bad film at all, but I thought I'd get more from it than I did.
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Post by El Gunner Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:48 pm

never got Robert Eggers movies
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Post by El Gunner Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:38 pm

Glass Onion the Knives Out sequel getting really good reviews. Was a bit worried after i saw the trailer. Hoping it gets a theater run here in Namibia before it releases on Netflix around Christmas
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