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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:37 pm

Cavani is very poor technically... surprisingly poor. Until he shows decent technique to me, i can't write his poor finishing off to just bad form.

His effort and physicality get him a lot of opportunities and he invariable scores on some. He's a volume shooter imo. So given that Ibra is taking a lot of the opportunities too, Cavani's volume is low and he's being exposed.

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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:13 pm

the internet has made us as football fans very harsh. wow fraud of the DECADE. don't get me wrong, i never really rated him as special, he was good for the teams he played for. but i think this age of quick information has really created blurred lines.

now he's the fraud of the decade ? yesterday that belonged to higuain, the day before it was torres, once upon a time people said robben always flopped in big games, hell, at one point people criticized suarez for scoring against norwich, and some even said he can't play on a team where he has to play second fiddle (i don't understand when playing the scottie pippen/ robin role became a compliment)

here's where i'm going with this. many teams and fans want new signings especially strikers. names like cavani, benzema, higuain, falcao, diego costa, lewa have all been thrown out there in the past couple of years, 3/4 years as potential targets for clubs. based on their resume and stats on wiki some hype them to join their team, and some don't want them for whatever reason. then they have a couple of bad games and they become the "worst footballer to have ever laced a pair of boots over the last decade or overrated"

i think if the internet, the money, the broadcasting of games from so many leagues that exists now in football where here years ago, guys like henry, batigol, vieri et al would also have their "biggest fraud of the decade" moments. people wud bash henry for the times arsenal never made it past the second round of ucl (which didn't happen till like 04), bati wud be a flop for all the times florentina "choked" when close to winning serie a, and vieri for inter losing the title to lazio on the final day

i don't even like cavani one bit, (i don't hate him either, could care less) but one miss (Which btw i enjoyed to the absolute fullest) and now he's fraud of the decade? wow
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Post by farfan Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:21 pm

in case you didn't notice, the thread wasn't made yesterday .

and it's far from being one miss ffs .
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Post by Kaladin Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:25 pm

titosantill wrote:the internet has made us as football fans very harsh. wow fraud of the DECADE. don't get me wrong, i never really rated him as special, he was good for the teams he played for. but i think this age of quick information has really created blurred lines.

now he's the fraud of the decade ? yesterday that belonged to higuain, the day before it was torres, once upon a time people said robben always flopped in big games, hell, at one point people criticized suarez for scoring against norwich, and some even said he can't play on a team where he has to play second fiddle (i don't understand when playing the scottie pippen/ robin role became a compliment)

here's where i'm going with this. many teams and fans want new signings especially strikers. names like cavani, benzema, higuain, falcao, diego costa, lewa have all been thrown out there in the past couple of years, 3/4 years as potential targets for clubs. based on their resume and stats on wiki some hype them to join their team, and some don't want them for whatever reason. then they have a couple of bad games and they become the "worst footballer to have ever laced a pair of boots over the last decade or overrated"

i think if the internet, the money, the broadcasting of games from so many leagues that exists now in football where here years ago, guys like henry, batigol, vieri et al would also have their "biggest fraud of the decade" moments. people wud bash henry for the times arsenal never made it past the second round of ucl (which didn't happen till like 04), bati wud be a flop for all the times florentina "choked" when close to winning serie a, and vieri for inter losing the title to lazio on the final day

i don't even like cavani one bit, (i don't hate him either, could care less) but one miss (Which btw i enjoyed to the absolute fullest) and now he's fraud of the decade? wow


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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:39 pm

farfan wrote:in case you didn't notice, the thread wasn't made yesterday .

and it's far from being one miss ffs .


whether it was made yesterday or not, i bet it was made after a miss or some game he didn't play too well. fraud of the decade is pushing it. especially when one considers that only a few months back, most calling him fraud where saying he was better than higuain. i looked at it, and my guess is it came after their loss to barcelona (lol). as i said, i don't even like the guy but when we pick every poor game that strikers have had against huge teams and baptize them as frauds of the decade (i knw there's some exaggeration there), it leaves me flabbergasted
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Post by Cruijf Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:42 pm

You take this forum too literally tito Laughing

It's obviously hyperbole. If you remove the typical GL banter and trolling the serious question here is, "is Cavani overrated?"
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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:55 pm

which  is why i said  in bracket "i know there's some exaggeration there". i don't even like the "overrated" talk to be honest. i've seen situations where guys may not follow a player week in week out, but they've heard about him, then they happen to come across a game vs real, bayern, barca, germany, spain, or some star studded team, and when the player sucks, like a lot of players would, he becomes "overrated".....not saying critics haven't seen cavani play. Besides how can one be overrated when the media these days only really lauds two players (i don't hear any reputable sports media calling "insert name of player who isn't messi, cr, neymar," box office)....overpriced, maybe, but these days who isn't?
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Post by Cruijf Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:22 pm

Well for awhile he was seen as one of the best CFs in the world, the critics now are referencing that period of time when they say he's overrated. I agree that he isn't really rated now though, that's a fair point.
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Post by Vibe Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:53 am

farfan wrote:
Vibe wrote:So Higuain in the form of his life... Cavani never played worse... And Higuain has scored 1 goal more than Cavani so far?


Higuain is scoring decisive , 3 points earning goals and is leading Napoli in a very heated title race .

Cavani is padding his record against over matched opponents in a league that's already been decided .



Are you telling me Cavani didn't do that and more for the same team, in the same league?

In fact, I remember Cavani scoring hattricks v Juventus, Milan, Inter, Roma and Lazio Laughing As well as coring v Chelsea and Man City in CL...
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:20 am

Let's be fair... when Ibra went out and Cavani was the lone striker, after about 2-3 months, he went on a tear and finished the last 6 weeks of the season on fire.  He also started this season on fire.  Ibra comes back and he goes right down the toilet again.

Ibra has really become a huge problem for PSG now.  He's lazy and generally bad.  He bottom feeds on Ligue 1 to still get stats... but he has a negative impact now.  PSG need to move on from him and they can't do it since he would go crazy in the locker room if Blanc benched him.

Just a shame. He's the Rooney of PSG.
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Post by Red Alert Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:49 am

Was a great striker once upon a time and then either declined / lost confidence playing second fiddle to Ibra. Would like to see how he does next season when Ibra leaves PSG and he's the focal point again.


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Post by free_cat Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:33 am

sportsczy wrote:Let's be fair... when Ibra went out and Cavani was the lone striker, after about 2-3 months, he went on a tear and finished the last 6 weeks of the season on fire.  He also started this season on fire.  Ibra comes back and he goes right down the toilet again.

Ibra has really become a huge problem for PSG now.  He's lazy and generally bad.  He bottom feeds on Ligue 1 to still get stats... but he has a negative impact now.  PSG need to move on from him and they can't do it since he would go crazy in the locker room if Blanc benched him.

Just a shame. He's the Rooney of PSG.


I agree with this, although Cavani is kinda poor too. When is Ibra's contract running out at PSG, this season? He'll be surely out then.
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Post by huntsman Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:35 am

I loved the way this PSG team played.
Very entertaining football, even triumphs Barca's football in terms of entertainment especially the first half.

If PSG continues with their current project and improve even further, its not a stretch to say that its only a matter of time until they win everything.
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Post by huntsman Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:38 am

The pressing and the running that the players conducted was amazing. When they lost the ball, they were able to recover it in a matter of 3 to 5 seconds on average.

Seriously, if you forget about their poor form of converting chances into goals in this particular game, they have completely destroyed the Madrid Armada.
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Post by Bankz Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:03 am

sportsczy wrote:Ibra comes back and he goes right down the toilet again.

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Hmm, why do I smell dishwashing? OMG!!! Cavani does dishes even with those muscles?
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:41 am

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Post by S Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:01 am

Don't care if he misses another 10 sitters

He's always better than the Argentinean choking machine in my eyes
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Post by Freeza Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:07 am

Harmonica wrote:Fakenaldo says hello.


You really need to take a course from Bankz in namecalling.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:08 am

Who?
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Harmonica wrote:Who?


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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:23 am

Freeza wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Who?


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Oh that guy, well I hardly read his posts, so that's a bit of a problem.
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:13 am

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farfan wrote:
Vibe wrote:So Higuain in the form of his life... Cavani never played worse... And Higuain has scored 1 goal more than Cavani so far?


Higuain is scoring decisive , 3 points earning goals  and is leading Napoli in a very heated title  race .

Cavani is padding his record against over matched opponents in a league that's already been decided .



Are you telling me Cavani didn't do that and more for the same team, in the same league?

In fact, I remember Cavani scoring hattricks v Juventus, Milan, Inter, Roma and Lazio Laughing As well as coring v Chelsea and Man City in CL...

i'm telling you what's happening right now , in 2015 .

Higuain > Cavani .
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Post by Kaladin Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:25 am

Cavani (league only) 9 apps; 7 goals 2 assists

Higuain (league only) 11 apps; 8 goals 2 assists

Not that far off, but Higgy's best is cutting it close with 'fraud of the decade' Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:41 am

Cavani also plays in a top 8 team if the world whereas Napoli struggle to make CL places in Serie A...
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:43 am

ES wrote:Cavani (league only) 9 apps; 7 goals 2 assists

Higuain (league only) 11 apps; 8 goals 2 assists

Not that far off, but Higgy's best is cutting it close with 'fraud of the decade' Laughing


you didn't see my post above ?
do we really need to go through the differences between what Cavani is doing at PSG and what Higuain is doing ?
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Post by S Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:55 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Cavani also plays in a top 8 team if the world whereas Napoli struggle to make CL places in Serie A...

Well that Napoli also has quality players.

Not like he's playing for a pile of shit team you know.
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