Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Seriefaces need to stop living in and glorifying the past.
BarrileteCosmico- Admin
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Not as much as we all need to stop acting like Serie A has gotten any better and hyping the now lol.
Cavani was lethal at Napoli and don't tell me it was because of the defenders in Italy ( as if it's got better anyway) considering he's missing chances for PSG with no defenders around him
I don't know why he's struggling so much now, but the issue seems to be he's constantly missing loads and loads of chances which never happened before.
Which has nothing to do with romanticism of Serie A or he apparently being a fraud, it's not like he's not getting himself into scoring positions and doing *bleep* all.
Then it would make sense, but no here he's getting loads of chances and missing them all when before he wasn't and in fact it was quite the opposite.
So the argument most are actually putting forth actually makes no sense what so ever.
Cavani was lethal at Napoli and don't tell me it was because of the defenders in Italy ( as if it's got better anyway) considering he's missing chances for PSG with no defenders around him
I don't know why he's struggling so much now, but the issue seems to be he's constantly missing loads and loads of chances which never happened before.
Which has nothing to do with romanticism of Serie A or he apparently being a fraud, it's not like he's not getting himself into scoring positions and doing *bleep* all.
Then it would make sense, but no here he's getting loads of chances and missing them all when before he wasn't and in fact it was quite the opposite.
So the argument most are actually putting forth actually makes no sense what so ever.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Was he lethal (high finishing skills) or did he simply get a lot of chances to score a lot?
Edinson Cavani: Both scored (21) and missed (26) the most clear-cut chances in Serie A in 2012/13 #TBT
Edinson Cavani: Both scored (21) and missed (26) the most clear-cut chances in Serie A in 2012/13 #TBT
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
As if he doesn't get a lot of chances to score a lot at PSG lol.
Also those stats are pretty meaningless when you play for a team that creates a lot you are liable to miss a lot. It's basically a law of averages lol.
Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo are up there in missed chances every season.
Nobody would say those players aren't lethal though.
Also those stats are pretty meaningless when you play for a team that creates a lot you are liable to miss a lot. It's basically a law of averages lol.
Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo are up there in missed chances every season.
Nobody would say those players aren't lethal though.
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Why are people trying to rewrite the past? He is poor right now and has bad finishing and all that stuff. How does it change what he did before?
Ronaldinho in 2008 was not particularly great and didn't impact games a lot, does that mean that he wasn't godlike 3 years before?
Or was Fabregas shit at Arsenal because nowadays he is benched by Oscar and Matic at Chelsea?
No logic to this whatsoever.
Ronaldinho in 2008 was not particularly great and didn't impact games a lot, does that mean that he wasn't godlike 3 years before?
Or was Fabregas shit at Arsenal because nowadays he is benched by Oscar and Matic at Chelsea?
No logic to this whatsoever.
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rincon wrote:Why are people trying to rewrite the past? He is poor right now and has bad finishing and all that stuff. How does it change what he did before?
Ronaldinho in 2008 was not particularly great and didn't impact games a lot, does that mean that he wasn't godlike 3 years before?
Or was Fabregas shit at Arsenal because nowadays he is benched by Oscar and Matic at Chelsea?
No logic to this whatsoever.
Yes.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
The best example would be Torres. His time post-Liverpool doesn't mean he was fraud at Liverpool and Atletico.
Cavani seems to have massive confidence problems. His movement is superb but his finishing and composure is worst I've seen since those lads trying to get laid in The Inbetweeners.
Cavani seems to have massive confidence problems. His movement is superb but his finishing and composure is worst I've seen since those lads trying to get laid in The Inbetweeners.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:As if he doesn't get a lot of chances to score a lot at PSG lol.
Also those stats are pretty meaningless when you play for a team that creates a lot you are liable to miss a lot. It's basically a law of averages lol.
Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo are up there in missed chances every season.
Nobody would say those players aren't lethal though.
My point is that if you are making the argument that he was a great finisher that is not true and the stats will back me up. His shot conversion and shot accuracy stats are, at best, average for an elite striker during his best season there. That's not to say his technique was not great and he has some great goals, but I wouldn't call him "lethal".
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Meh stats.
If we are going by conversion rates then the best 3 forwards in the world are not great finishers either.
I used to watch Serie A regularly back then, and it wasn't just Serie A as he performed in the CL too as well tbh and he definitely was one of the best forwards in Europe at the time.
Because he's struggling now and missing shit loads doesn't change that fact and no amount of history revisionist misleading stats will do it either.
If we are going by conversion rates then the best 3 forwards in the world are not great finishers either.
I used to watch Serie A regularly back then, and it wasn't just Serie A as he performed in the CL too as well tbh and he definitely was one of the best forwards in Europe at the time.
Because he's struggling now and missing shit loads doesn't change that fact and no amount of history revisionist misleading stats will do it either.
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Holy shat he's scoring 7 today
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!!! 4 in 1 half so far
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He got mad
Running even harder than against Arsenal and the defenders just can't keep up with his runs. Unreal if he gets his efficiency back.
Running even harder than against Arsenal and the defenders just can't keep up with his runs. Unreal if he gets his efficiency back.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Caen. Nothing more needs to be said.
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Pip wrote:Caen. Nothing more needs to be said.
Games like this are the reason why his stats at PSG are " ok " .
Let's see if he keeps it up .
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Well Ibra made a living off of stat padding against teams like Caen. Same with most of the top CFs in Europe. I don't see why Cavani's goals against them should be looked down upon.
As I mentioned very early on... Cavani is either very hot or cold as ice. He runs his arse off every game. But if his confidence is low, he's an awful finisher. If he gets his efficiency/confidence back, I think he scores 50 this season given his work rate and if he stays healthy. He gets so many chances every game just on his movement alone.
As I mentioned very early on... Cavani is either very hot or cold as ice. He runs his arse off every game. But if his confidence is low, he's an awful finisher. If he gets his efficiency/confidence back, I think he scores 50 this season given his work rate and if he stays healthy. He gets so many chances every game just on his movement alone.
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Still believe in him. Still think he can be a top 5 striker.
Here's to hoping he gets his confidence back and regains his top level.
Scoring is key to a striker's confidence. Be it against Caen, Rayo or Werder Bremen.
If a striker scores 30 goals a season, you don't go, "oh, he only scored 2 against Barcelona and the rest were league minors". You count every goal, because if those goals are winning you games, the striker is doing his job very well.
Here's to hoping he gets his confidence back and regains his top level.
Scoring is key to a striker's confidence. Be it against Caen, Rayo or Werder Bremen.
If a striker scores 30 goals a season, you don't go, "oh, he only scored 2 against Barcelona and the rest were league minors". You count every goal, because if those goals are winning you games, the striker is doing his job very well.
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He's elite you fools and people claiming it's Caen like he didn't tear Arsenal a new one with his movement just couldn't finish.
The level of opposition isn't the problem unlike with Ibra, it's his composure in front of goal
The level of opposition isn't the problem unlike with Ibra, it's his composure in front of goal
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Level of opposition is a fair complaint. Nobody cares if Cavani scores four goals against Caen. Even without Cavani, they would win. Look at the match against Metz: so you see even if Cavani plays bad, the team will compensate.
The problem is when Cavani plays bad against the better teams. And then when he misses important chances, the team suffers. Look at the match against Monaco or the match against Arsenal, the two good teams PSG plays this season.
So if he scores 30 goals in Ligue 1, should we be amazed? Not really, IMO. Every match offers him gift-wrapped chances. He is the only defined goalscorer for the best team in a weak league.
The problem is when Cavani plays bad against the better teams. And then when he misses important chances, the team suffers. Look at the match against Monaco or the match against Arsenal, the two good teams PSG plays this season.
So if he scores 30 goals in Ligue 1, should we be amazed? Not really, IMO. Every match offers him gift-wrapped chances. He is the only defined goalscorer for the best team in a weak league.
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Cavani's movement is not the reason for the chances. Ibra moved only when he wanted to and he would get the most opportunities in Ligue 1.
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He has a very similar conversion rate from Serie A and Ligue 1.
He was wasteful at times with Napoli, too...
He was wasteful at times with Napoli, too...
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Didn't watch the game,but it's safe to assume that psg created 45457787 scoring chances.
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World class player ! A must-have when it comes to play against the likes of Ludogorets, Dijon and Montpellier.
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What a scrub.
Should have had a hat trick tonight.
Should have had a hat trick tonight.
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LMAO he just missed another sitter.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?
Guy keeps scoring every game but he is a fraud amirite?
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