FC Barcelona vs AC Milan - Aftermath

The Franchise wrote:Of course you dont think Tito would make any difference, thats what you do, make up fallacies.

Second string? You beat Barca in its weakest moment, we will see what condition we are in when we meet.

Of course you cant help but direct this to Barca and Madrid though, you cant help yourselfs.

But talk is cheap, we will see in the end.

This is Milan and Barca thread nothing else. Give us credit, or dont...whatever, we earnt our victory, not everyone can say that.

I'm not taking any credit away from Barcelona, i just think people should not be fouled by results such as this, you beat a weakened Milan side, nothing more.

The Franchise wrote:Who said anything about other clubs? Noone.

Noone said Madrid at all, they not even relevant here.

one did a page back

Nobody is talking about anything more than that though..a great performance vs Milan.

But you cant help yourself but look further into it because heaven forbid Barca get any praise.

Die Borussen wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Who said anything about other clubs? Noone.

Noone said Madrid at all, they not even relevant here.

one did a page back

Madrid fans talking about Barca =/= Madrid's team.

Unless your talking about another Madrid fan of course, but you cant help yourselfs. Whats new.

The Franchise wrote:Nobody is talking about anything more than that though..a great performance vs Milan.

But you cant help yourself but look further into it because heaven forbid Barca get any praise.

So you accept that beating Milan does not mean you can beat us too.

Anyway i have no problem praising Barcelona if your fellow fans do the same when we defeated a much stronger side one weeks ago.

Pedram wrote:

So you accept that beating Milan does not mean you can beat us too.

Anyway i have no problem praising Barcelona if your fellow fans do the same when we defeated a much stronger side one weeks ago.

What is this kindergarten?

Can we please stay on topic from now on?

I've pretty much figured Madrid fans out.

They didn't want Milan to prevail over Barcelona. They wanted Barca to destroy Milan.

They wanted to have the title of being the only ones of defeated the coach less, out of form and unfit Barca at their worst, after 49594595 games of experience vs them, all to keep it too themselves. They want to be the only ones to defeat Barca convincingly.

They thrive in the 4-0 thrashing of Milan to laugh and chastise at the first leg which had them seething in envy.

Now of course its all bad tactics, luck etc and nothing to do with the ridiculously good performance that the Catalans put out last night.

Most Madrilenos will predictably laugh at this but mollycoddle the the hidden desire that most people haven't figured out yet. Save it.

Arquitecto wrote:I've pretty much figured Madrid fans out.

They didn't want Milan to prevail over Barcelona. They wanted Barca to destroy Milan.

They wanted to have the title of being the only ones of defeated the coach less, out of form and unfit Barca at their worst, after 49594595 games of experience vs them, all to keep it too themselves. They want to be the only ones to defeat Barca convincingly.

They thrive in the 4-0 thrashing of Milan to laugh and chastise at the first leg which had them seething in envy.

Now of course its all bad tactics, luck etc and nothing to do with the ridiculously good performance that the Catalans put out last night.

Most Madrilenos will predictably laugh at this but mollycoddle the the hidden desire that most people haven't figured out yet. Save it.

But what's there to laugh at? This Milan is 99999 levels under RM and they still managed to beat Barcelona 2-0 at home and frustrate them. If Niang had scored you would be trough. Milan is rebuilding slowly but greatly I am sure that if Milan had faced RM they would have gone trough ( Milan). Nobody was laughing during the RM rebuilding process which had even worse results than Milan ( *cough* 5-0 ) even than RM was better team than this Milan ...

and im sure the entire madrid-fanbase wanted milan to go through

but i agree that this result makes madrid somewhat look better for many and madrid fans feel good for that matter solely

my point is arq is partly spot on, but madrid fans feelings developed after the game cause just before they were all cheering for milan 100%

If Niang had scored, we still wouldn't go through. Barca were too good

El Shaarawy wrote:If Niang had scored, we still wouldn't go through. Barca were too good

Disagree i think the goal would've sent Barca to panic mode, like last year scenario after Ramires scored in the Nou Camp.

Pedram wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:If Niang had scored, we still wouldn't go through. Barca were too good

Disagree i think the goal would've sent Barca to panic mode, like last year scenario after Ramires scored in the Nou Camp.

^ What this man said

Pedram wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Nobody is talking about anything more than that though..a great performance vs Milan.

But you cant help yourself but look further into it because heaven forbid Barca get any praise.

So you accept that beating Milan does not mean you can beat us too.

Anyway i have no problem praising Barcelona if your fellow fans do the same when we defeated a much stronger side one weeks ago.

No, we can or cannot beat you regardless of anything. Games aint other opponants have very little meaning in context with other teams.

And that childish second sentance I have no response to. Believe what you like, end of the day you have won nothing.

Well all I can say is Barca flopped in the first leg. Milan flopped in the second. No big secret here.

the only problem I have with milans performance is that they could not take advantage of their first leg lead. I think we all knew it was pretty much given that barca would win at their own ground but I thought it would have been a hardfought 2-1 win for barca not 4-0 with milan totally clueless.

I can understand they have some young players who are still getting experience and some old ones who are bench players at best. but the experienced ones were probably the worst like robinho for example with that freekick. maybe they weren't motivated enough??? malaga just showed you dont need quality players to beat a superior team, you just need team effort and a coach who gives you confidence. for example the difference in terms of talent between isco and ses is not large but isco was so determined to help his team he even got a yellow for a reckless challenge, he did everything in his power to help malaga as well as their other players who are mostly rejects from other teams

Doesnt translate at all. Porto are nowhere near Barcelona.

Secondly, Milan didnt have to play 10 men for half the game.

The Franchise wrote:Of course you can

Couple of wins against a coachless team and its all gone to your heads.

Last time you had pep you lost 2-1 at Camp Nou.

With Tito we beat you at Supercopa. in league and in Copa too.

We are not the best team out there and we have many problems as we saw against Manchester. but no matter with pep, Tito, Roura or someone else at charge you are just easy for us atm.

The Franchise wrote:Doesnt translate at all. Porto are nowhere near Barcelona.

Secondly, Milan didnt have to play 10 men for half the game.

in fact I think porto play very similar to barca. they play posession and swarm you when they lose the ball. the only difference is that jackson plays highest up while missi plays alittle lower. your uefa super cup against them proved that they are able to tackle you tbh

don't get me wrong tho not saying they are on par with you but more like they have a very similar approach to how they play the game


the red card was loooong overdue. it should have come in the first half and malaga had a goal wrongly dissallowed couple that with having to TURN a one goal deficit rather than protect one and you would see what I mean

Gotta give the devil his due. Barca played a great game.

However Milan really didn't turn up and could have made things different had they prepared for this game better.

In any case this makes for a very tasty round of 8 in the CL

halamadrid2 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Doesnt translate at all. Porto are nowhere near Barcelona.

Secondly, Milan didnt have to play 10 men for half the game.

in fact I think porto play very similar to barca. they play posession and swarm you when they lose the ball. the only difference is that jackson plays highest up while missi plays alittle lower. your uefa super cup against them proved that they are able to tackle you tbh

don't get me wrong tho not saying they are on par with you but more like they have a very similar approach to how they play the game


the red card was loooong overdue. it should have come in the first half and malaga had a goal wrongly dissallowed couple that with having to TURN a one goal deficit rather than protect one and you would see what I mean

I watch Porto once every 2 weeks, they are nowhere near us. They are fine side, a better side than Malaga too despite the loss...but they are not on our level at all. Pressing, possession and 433 doesnt not equal Barcelona.

It doesnt matter if the red was fair or not, thats not the point. The point is Milan never played against 10 men, their job was not the same on any level whatsoever.

Mamad wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Of course you can

Couple of wins against a coachless team and its all gone to your heads.

Last time you had pep you lost 2-1 at Camp Nou.

With Tito we beat you at Supercopa. in league and in Copa too.

We are not the best team out there and we have many problems as we saw against Manchester. but no matter with pep, Tito, Roura or someone else at charge you are just easy for us atm.

Tito already beat you, please be quite.

You talking about the 3-2 in the Super Cup first leg? The game we were not really prepared for from a physical stand point which was also during our worst period during the season?

Not to mention that 3-2 gave us a good advantage anyway

Zealous wrote:You talking about the 3-2 in the Super Cup first leg? The game we were not really prepared for from a physical stand point which was also during our worst period during the season?

Not to mention that 3-2 gave us a good advantage anyway

Barcelona always have a slump in January - February. ALWAYS. Last season around this time:

Villarreal 0 - Barca 0
Osasuna 3 - Barca 2

The season before even Arsenal beat Barca in the R16 first leg, fss. And in 09 / 10 Stuttgart should have won (a lucky 1-1 in Germany).

Tito already said at the beginning of the season that he prepares the team to peak around April. I read somewhere that they are having an extra pre-season-esque training schedule in the winter break which causes this usual dip in form after the winter break. This time it just coincided with a tough playing schedule (Milan-Madrid-Madrid) instead of Leverkusen or Stuttgart or Arsenal and the loss of the coach made matters even worse.

If you think Madrid have the upper hand in Clasicos now you'll be in for a shock if you meet Barca in the next round. You beat a Barcelona team that lost 0-2 to this Milan team, drew with Valencia and struggled to beat Sevilla at home prior to the Clasicos. While Xavi was playing on painkillers. The Milan result will be an extra boost now. Tito's comeback soon even more. Barca will analyse and correct everything they did wrong in the past weeks (no more Iniesta on the wings in big games, you can bet on it). And they'll physically peak as they usually do around April.

Next Clasico (if it happens in the CL) Barcelona will win and convincingly. Quote me on that.

At this point Barca being at their peaks will not make much difference, after facing Barcelona so many times Madrid has reached point where they have broken the mental barriers, our play style is perfectly suited against teams who likes to keep possession.

futbol wrote:

Zealous wrote:You talking about the 3-2 in the Super Cup first leg? The game we were not really prepared for from a physical stand point which was also during our worst period during the season?

Not to mention that 3-2 gave us a good advantage anyway

Barcelona always have a slump in January - February. ALWAYS. Last season around this time:

Villarreal 0 - Barca 0
Osasuna 3 - Barca 2

The season before even Arsenal beat Barca in the R16 first leg, fss. And in 09 / 10 Stuttgart should have won (a lucky 1-1 in Germany).

Tito already said at the beginning of the season that he prepares the team to peak around April. I read somewhere that they are having an extra pre-season-esque training schedule in the winter break which causes this usual dip in form after the winter break. This time it just coincided with a tough playing schedule (Milan-Madrid-Madrid) instead of Leverkusen or Stuttgart or Arsenal and the loss of the coach made matters even worse.

If you think Madrid have the upper hand in Clasicos now you'll be in for a shock if you meet Barca in the next round. You beat a Barcelona team that lost 0-2 to this Milan team, drew with Valencia and struggled to beat Sevilla at home prior to the Clasicos. While Xavi was playing on painkillers. The Milan result will be an extra boost now. Tito's comeback soon even more. Barca will analyse and correct everything they did wrong in the past weeks (no more Iniesta on the wings in big games, you can bet on it). And they'll physically peak as they usually do around April.

Next Clasico (if it happens in the CL) Barcelona will win and convincingly. Quote me on that.

Do you realize that Madrid's second team has beaten Barca in the league, without Iniesta on the wings ? Do you realize that last year Madrid beat Barca at Camp Nou in April, when Barca were at their "peak" ? Do you realize that Madrid destroyed Barca in the supercup, where Iniesta played in the middle?(Same with the league match)

Pedram wrote:At this point Barca being at their peaks will not make much difference, after facing Barcelona so many times Madrid has reached point where they have broken the mental barriers, our play style is perfectly suited against teams who likes to keep possession.

I don't care what anyone says, a CL game at the Nou Camp is a completely different beast than anything in football at the moment. Mental barriers, tactics, whatever. Playing an elimination game against that crowd, atmosphere, and team is an extremely difficult task.

Sure barca have lost CL ties before. But the Milan Barca tie is an example of what I'm talking about. They are down 2-0 going into the Nou Camp and you just know they can over turn that. And they made it look easy. In the last 8 or last 4, if Madrid plays Barca, I'm going with Barca.