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Post by rsinatra Tue 21 Feb 2012, 17:55

The Franchise wrote:He has been the same player since Pep took over, maybe you wasnt watching the first 2 Pep years as closely? Genuine question, not being funny.

whaat, no dude he hasn't.. he used to do a lot more risky things than he does now.. at least that's how i remember it. maybe i just like him better now.

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Post by The Franchise Tue 21 Feb 2012, 18:01

The last 3 seasons he has been the same player.

Before that, im with you and he was also more error prone. But Valdes has talked about Pep's work with him and it really is paying off because the last 3 seasons he has been great for us.
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Post by rsinatra Tue 21 Feb 2012, 18:58

The Franchise wrote:The last 3 seasons he has been the same player.

Before that, im with you and he was also more error prone. But Valdes has talked about Pep's work with him and it really is paying off because the last 3 seasons he has been great for us.

wait, 3 seasons ago would be around 2008-2009 and stuff, huh? lol ok, a little more than 12 months
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Post by delaurentishotz Tue 21 Feb 2012, 19:21

Valdes is average , below average.. But okay we get it Barca is the bestest team evah.. Valdes is average ?? Oh well must be jealousy right ??
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Post by Khaled Tue 21 Feb 2012, 19:23

Valdes is the Best GK in the World #dealwithit at least Perfect for Barca, and NO other GK currently can replace him!!
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Post by la bestia negra Tue 21 Feb 2012, 19:33

Khaled wrote:Valdes is the Best GK in the World #dealwithit at least Perfect for Barca, and NO other GK currently can replace him!!

hmmm twiter section that way <><><><<<<><>>>>>>^^^^^>^^>^>^^>^>^>^>^
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Post by Harmonica Tue 21 Feb 2012, 19:40

Love Maradona, but that is just uninformed opinion.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue 21 Feb 2012, 20:13

valdez cant be replaced? lol

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Post by Harmonica Tue 21 Feb 2012, 20:15

vanDEEZ wrote:valdez cant be replaced? lol
Exxon Valdez? Laughing
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Post by Lord Awesome Tue 21 Feb 2012, 20:46

Reina would suit Barca better, tbh.


Anyway, Maradona went over the top again calling Valdes "bad". Valdes is actually a pretty good Keeper mind you not the best but good enough, I suppose.
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Post by billionmillion Tue 21 Feb 2012, 21:00

If you are in barca you dont get enough credit because there are too many stars. you just remember this.
Before Barca
Villa-best striker in the world
Ibra-third best player in the world
Cesc-one of the best midfielders in the world
Afellay-Future superstar
you can add all transfers in last 2-3 years to compare. i'm sure all of them got more credit before they came to barca. if valdes was napoli goalkeeper he would get more credit. its easier to get credit among avarage players
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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue 21 Feb 2012, 21:26

true- by comparison he looks not up to par.. doesnt mean he is a poor goalie, has definitely made a claim the past couple seasons as one of the top keepers.

but come on, barca fans are rating him as if he is the best in the world, in this thread alone "cannot be replaced by any goalie." this is just not the case. his stats are inflated by the excellent team in front of him as well as their 80% possession.

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Post by Khaled Tue 21 Feb 2012, 22:17

@1victorvaldes Stats at #fcbarcelona 2011-2012 [all competitions]: 34 matches, conceded 26 goals, Saves 74 || Saves %: 74 % [Clean-Sheets: 18]

Top 5 Saves 2011/12
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue 21 Feb 2012, 22:29

Hey che, how can you use statistics to back up your shit on GK's? For all you know all of those easy saves valdes makes could have been shots taken under pressure or just crap shots. With barca's pressing style getting a good shot off is not easy
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Post by BarcaKizz Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:21

Heard it all before, don't care. Stupid words from a blockhead. Pele and Maradona are football legends but absolute retards as football pundits.

Barca fans love Valdes and that's what matters. Saves our ass week in week out. It's funny among the slaughter on the weekend nobody would remember Valdes made a gamesaving save at 2-1 after doing nothing for 70 minutes. Absolutely no keeper that would suit Barca better atm. Nobody.
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Post by BarcaKizz Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:25

Giggity5313 wrote:Hey che, how can you use statistics to back up your shit on GK's? For all you know all of those easy saves valdes makes could have been shots taken under pressure or just crap shots. With barca's pressing style getting a good shot off is not easy

Funny thing is if you actually watched Valdes... You'd realise he actually rarely makes easy saves. It's usually a high-risk situation or 1v1. While most keepers get the chance to warm their hands with easy saves behind a deep-line, Valdes waits in the cold to make important saves.
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:34

:facepalm:

....who is worst, Pele or Maradona? Why do such great ex-players keep saying completely stupid opinions regarding modern football?
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Post by Zealous Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:36

No one will remember Valdes after he retires. Seriously he's an after thought in the world of football.
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Post by Ganso Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:37

BarcaLearning wrote: :facepalm:

....who is worst, Pele or Maradona? Why do such great ex-players keep saying completely stupid opinions regarding modern football?
maybe because they have their own opinions?
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Post by Tigole Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:40


Valdes is neither great or bad; he is just good enough for Barcelona's needs.
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue 21 Feb 2012, 23:53

Valdes is flawed. But hes improved vastly as many mentioend already. And his strengths are very strong, some of his reflex saves and 1 on 1s are the best around...
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Post by The Franchise Wed 22 Feb 2012, 00:30

Lord Hispano wrote:Reina would suit Barca better, tbh.


Anyway, Maradona went over the top again calling Valdes "bad". Valdes is actually a pretty good Keeper mind you not the best but good enough, I suppose.

What a terrible comment.

Reina was horrible for us, utterly terrible. Worse than even Valdes pre Pep.
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed 22 Feb 2012, 01:12

Zealous wrote:No one will remember Valdes after he retires. Seriously he's an after thought in the world of football.

To be fair, this is okay for goal keepers, it would be bad for a striker.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed 22 Feb 2012, 01:16

Zealous wrote:No one will remember Valdes after he retires. Seriously he's an after thought in the world of football.

Not true, he'll be remembered as the keeper with more Zamoras than Casillas Maradona :  Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good." - Page 2 Lucasl
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Post by Khaled Wed 22 Feb 2012, 01:19

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Zealous wrote:No one will remember Valdes after he retires. Seriously he's an after thought in the world of football.

Not true, he'll be remembered as the keeper with more Zamoras than Casillas Maradona :  Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good." - Page 2 Lucasl

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed 22 Feb 2012, 03:43

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What a terrible comment.

Reina was horrible for us, utterly terrible. Worse than even Valdes pre Pep.

Well, Reina has since then improved, obvoiusly.

Less mistake prone than the current Valdes and obviously better than him.
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