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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:38 pm

Talking about that 35 millions future thiago silva flop that is Marquinhos lmao, playing worse than Sakho atm.

tbf, the list of overhyped talent like him is endless.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:39 pm

He's 19
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Post by The Franchise Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:41 pm

This is more about Marquinhos than the thread title right? Because I think everyone, even Roma fans...thought, he isnt that good right now.

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Post by izzy Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:44 pm

People said Marquinhos was WC?

Anyway, should have given a list Nick.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:08 pm

Lol no one said that about Marquinhos.

They said he had the talent to be WC one day, which is true from what i saw at Roma.

I agree with your premise but a lot of the time no one says it and when players get hyped people overreact and like people are saying they are WC.

When in reality no one ever said that.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:11 pm

This thread is definitely aimed just at Marquinhos Laughing

And I agree with the above. Noone said he is world class.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:48 pm

I agree with the title, but you're aiming this at the one young CB that people barely ever called WC. At least not that I seen.
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Post by Kick Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:54 pm

Ok, I admit, Josh McEachran is not actually world class.

Sorry.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:03 am

was isco considered WC?
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:27 am

chad4401 wrote:was isco considered WC?

 rofl 
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Post by Donuts Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:50 am

Guess Barca dodged a bullet there Surprised
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Post by Art Morte Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:13 am

Yeah, this thread is totally aimed at Marquinhos...

And CBs get some of their criticism very wrongly, too. A CB can play 80 minutes brilliantly, 10 minutes poorly, and get criticised massively. A striker can play 80 minutes poorly, 10 minutes brilliantly and get praised because he scored.

Off the top of my head, players who have recently been hyped up too much after a short spell of excellence, there aren't too many... Fellaini, Lambert, Remy, Matic.
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Post by Freeza Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:27 am

Art Morte wrote:Yeah, this thread is totally aimed at Marquinhos...

And CBs get some of their criticism very wrongly, too. A CB can play 80 minutes brilliantly, 10 minutes poorly, and get criticised massively. A striker can play 80 minutes poorly, 10 minutes brilliantly and get praised because he scored.

Off the top of my head, players who have recently been hyped up too much after a short spell of excellence, there aren't too many... Fellaini, Lambert, Remy, Matic.
Ramos can play badly for a year, and be named as the best at his position hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:40 am

Art Morte wrote:Yeah, this thread is totally aimed at Marquinhos...

And CBs get some of their criticism very wrongly, too. A CB can play 80 minutes brilliantly, 10 minutes poorly, and get criticised massively. A striker can play 80 minutes poorly, 10 minutes brilliantly and get praised because he scored.

Off the top of my head, players who have recently been hyped up too much after a short spell of excellence, there aren't too many... Fellaini, Lambert, Remy, Matic.

Who overhyped him though? in any case his drop in form was quite easily explainable.

He's not a centre forward, his best form came playing as an SS or from the left where he could use his dribbling ability to run at back 4s.

He can't lead the line at all, which is why i wanted us to sign Bony.  Sad 

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Post by M99 Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:11 am

World class talent /= World class now

I don't think anyone in the forum told he is world class. But I do remember another 19 year old being called Top 3 CB in the world hmm
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Post by Pip Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:17 am

Like Diego Costa, Aaron Ramsey, Luis Suárez ("Best Player of the Past 5 Months"), and some others. It's certainly not just Marquinhos if what Mr Nick says is true.

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Post by MJ Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:44 am

Adnan Januzaj is Universe class.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:49 am

MJGunner wrote:Adnan Januzaj is Universe class.

don't let Real Madrid hear that, they'll buy him immediately for 100m+ as he'd fit nicely with the Galacticos.
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Post by dronte Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:00 am

Many people thought Roma made the deal of the century with Marquinhos, PSG had him waaaaay overpriced. Also I don't think anyone called him WC expect maybe the PSG board  rofl 

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Post by Vibe Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:33 am

I never heard anyone say Marquinhos was WC.

Only thing embarrassing is Nick's definition of world class Laughing :facepalm:
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Post by Ion Creanga Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:14 pm

Marquinhos?? Mediocre defender in Serie A, wasn't even an important player at Rome... It just shows how comical PSG is.
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Post by McLewis Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:12 pm

Ion Creanga wrote:Marquinhos?? Mediocre defender in Serie A, wasn't even an important player at Rome... It just shows how comical PSG is.

Wat?

He benched a seasoned veteran like Nico Burdisso and he wasn't important? Laughing

He played 22 times in his first European season as an 18-year old and he wasn't considered important to Roma? Laughing

Pray tell....what is your definition of important?

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Post by Ion Creanga Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:24 pm

An important player for a team for me is a player that has a signifficant positive influence in the team's display and when he's replaced the team suffers ...

If you consider he was important for Rome, i'm ok with it, your opinion... That doesn't exclude the fact that he was a mediocre defender in Serie A.

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Post by McLewis Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:28 pm

And I'll accept that you didn't watch one single game he played in last season, this much is very obvious.

You really shouldn't post about players you know nothing about, brah.

Thanks for playing.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:31 pm

LoL this thread Laughing
You guys taking the piss out of Nick.
Who said Marquinhos is world class?
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