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Maradona : Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good."
"I adore Mourinho. As a man, as a trainer and coach and as a psychologist. For me he is the best. Mourinho can turn a coin into a rose and that’s the reason for the big difference on my affection for him. I’m not in love with him or anything, but he is an exceptional guy," Maradona said to Sport360.
"Pep is an excellent man. I know Guardiola very well, but maybe he does not get as much merit because he has impressive players. Let’s not forget though that Pep is very young and has a great career ahead of him."
The former Argentina coach then stated that he thinks Barcelona will give up on La Liga, and focus on the Champions League instead.
"Barcelona will put everything into the Champions League because the Primera Division is Madrid’s. I do not think Barcelona will play anything but the Champions League."
Maradona went on to voice his admiration of the Catalan giants, before taking a dig at goalkeeper Victor Valdes.
"Barcelona are such a great team, even a bad goalkeeper seems good. It’s true. Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good."
"Pep is an excellent man. I know Guardiola very well, but maybe he does not get as much merit because he has impressive players. Let’s not forget though that Pep is very young and has a great career ahead of him."
The former Argentina coach then stated that he thinks Barcelona will give up on La Liga, and focus on the Champions League instead.
"Barcelona will put everything into the Champions League because the Primera Division is Madrid’s. I do not think Barcelona will play anything but the Champions League."
Maradona went on to voice his admiration of the Catalan giants, before taking a dig at goalkeeper Victor Valdes.
"Barcelona are such a great team, even a bad goalkeeper seems good. It’s true. Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good."
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Re: Maradona : Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good."
it was stupid comment by him. Valdes is one of the best if not the best goalkeeper
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billionmillion wrote:it was stupid comment by him. Valdes is one of the best if not the best goalkeeper
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fun fact: between 2004-2008, ie before guardiola took over, valdes conceded less goals per game than casillas in all but one of them, even when madrid won the league in 07
average position in zamora trophy in that time:
valdes - 1, 3, 2, 2 = 2
casillas - 2, 5, 8, 1 = 4
madrid fanboys :vagi:
average position in zamora trophy in that time:
valdes - 1, 3, 2, 2 = 2
casillas - 2, 5, 8, 1 = 4
madrid fanboys :vagi:
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this used to be the case but i have to admit valdez has improved hugely the past couple years.
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che wrote:fun fact: between 2004-2008, ie before guardiola took over, valdes conceded less goals per game than casillas in all but one of them, even when madrid won the league in 07
average position in zamora trophy in that time:
valdes - 1, 3, 2, 2 = 2
casillas - 2, 5, 8, 1 = 4
madrid fanboys :vagi:
The Zamora trophy is an award for the defence. Not just the goalkeeper, sure officially it goes to one person but surely even you can understand that it relies on more than just the efforts of one person.
Valdes is the guy who has ridden on the coat tails of success of others for years. He'll retire a Barca legend like Zubizarreta but no outside Barca will rate him.
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Since when did Zamora trophy indication of goal keeping performance??
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Valdes the underrated hero
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Zealous wrote:
Valdes is the guy who has ridden on the coat tails of success of others for years.
uh huh
is that why he had one of the best save percentages in europe last season?
i understand that haters gonna hate but valdes is a great keeper... sure he *bleep* up occasionally but so do all keepers, including neuer and *gasp* casillas...
if he played for any team other than barcelona he'd be definitely considered at least top 10 in europe, but he's yet another victim of the "others make them look good" bullshit... barcelona makes messi look better than he is, valdes look better than he is, pique look better than he is, etc
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Cokehead says wut?
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Barca fans three years ago
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090301121104AAWjeKj
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Re: Maradona : Valdes is bad! But with all the players he has in front of him even he looks good."
Che did you watch Valdes pre Guardiola?
Is it just me who remembers how crap he was back then? Like, really? Used to make more mistakes than Casillas and on top of that he wasnt the best shot stopper either..
Is it just me who remembers how crap he was back then? Like, really? Used to make more mistakes than Casillas and on top of that he wasnt the best shot stopper either..
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Of course, useless goalie lol
People actually still believe it, wow.
People actually still believe it, wow.
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yeah he did improve considerably since guardiola took over... makes it all the more unbelievable how he managed to get those numbers for years playing behind the likes of oleguer, belletti and 35 year old thuram...
http://soccerlens.com/whyvictor-valdes-is-better-than-iker-casillas/68668/
lololol
i'm not saying valdes is better than casillas (not this year anyway) but if you think valdes is useless you're... what's the polite euphemism... *bleep* stupid, that's pretty much a fact
http://soccerlens.com/whyvictor-valdes-is-better-than-iker-casillas/68668/
lololol
i'm not saying valdes is better than casillas (not this year anyway) but if you think valdes is useless you're... what's the polite euphemism... *bleep* stupid, that's pretty much a fact
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che wrote:Zealous wrote:
Valdes is the guy who has ridden on the coat tails of success of others for years.
uh huh
is that why he had one of the best save percentages in europe last season?
i understand that haters gonna hate but valdes is a great keeper... sure he *bleep* up occasionally but so do all keepers, including neuer and *gasp* casillas...
if he played for any team other than barcelona he'd be definitely considered at least top 10 in europe, but he's yet another victim of the "others make them look good" bullshit... barcelona makes messi look better than he is, valdes look better than he is, pique look better than he is, etc
Says who? You? lol
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uh, yea, it was my post, i made it considering barcelona are the most hated club on this forum, so yes, i'm saying it
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Honestly though there is no Barca player of whom I’ve not seen arguments of being average in this forum.
I even remember distinctively certain people about Messi being mediocre by all accounts.
Valdes comes as no surprise. As long as people feel joy I’m fine with it
I even remember distinctively certain people about Messi being mediocre by all accounts.
Valdes comes as no surprise. As long as people feel joy I’m fine with it
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As far as i am concerned, Valdes is one of the best goalkeepers for the one of the greatest teams ever assembled. i dont care about the rankings or other accolades.
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Look ho harsh some of our fans are on Cesc, Keita, Alexis and Pique. In the recent past, Pedro, Chyg, Ibra and others.
Yet I see no Barca fan get at Valdes. Its a clue...he is actually doing a great job and we rarely have anything to complain about.
Yet I see no Barca fan get at Valdes. Its a clue...he is actually doing a great job and we rarely have anything to complain about.
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he's improved a lot in the last 12 months. over a year ago i shared maradona's view on him, but now he seems to be doing alright. perhaps in a normal team he wouldnt be top 10 in the world, but thats just hypothesizing.. because right now he is.
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He has been the same player since Pep took over, maybe you wasnt watching the first 2 Pep years as closely? Genuine question, not being funny.
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Actually pretty sensible statements for a cokehead like Maradona.
Though I remember in the 09/10 season Valdes looked better than Casillas. I wouldn't actually call Valdes bad, he just lacks consistency - which is why he isn't a world class keeper. But he certainly is not a bad GK.
Though I remember in the 09/10 season Valdes looked better than Casillas. I wouldn't actually call Valdes bad, he just lacks consistency - which is why he isn't a world class keeper. But he certainly is not a bad GK.
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The Franchise wrote:He has been the same player since Pep took over, maybe you wasnt watching the first 2 Pep years as closely? Genuine question, not being funny.
whaat, no dude he hasn't.. he used to do a lot more risky things than he does now.. at least that's how i remember it. maybe i just like him better now.
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