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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:29 pm

Show me one single under 24 player be it a defender, midfielder or a striker that has a better record in this year CPL than Real Madrid Karim Benzema

Just to mention a few good performers, Seydou Doumbia(dont look under 23 to me) Isaac Cuenca and Nicolás Gaitán, Toni Kroos.

Karim Benzema, Appearance 6, Goals 4, assist 4.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:33 pm

Messi is 24 does he count ? Razz
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Post by guest7 Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:35 pm

Messi: 6 goals 3 assists

jog on it
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:35 pm

Ofc, he does Very Happy just pushing Toni Kross down Razz
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:36 pm

Btw CPL sounds like a knee injury Razz
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:36 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Show me one single under 24 player be it a defender, midfielder or a striker that has a better record in this year CPL than Real Madrid Karim Benzema

Just to mention a few good performers, Seydou Doumbia(dont look under 23 to me) Isaac Cuenca and Nicolás Gaitán, Toni Kroos.

Karim Benzema, Appearance 6, Goals 4, assist 4.

This is quite easy to figure out, Lionel Messi of Barcelona have 5 appearance with 6 goals and 3 assists
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:43 pm

Come to think of it, it's debatable who has performed better Between Benzema and Messi.

Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

I say Benzema might just be ahead of Messi, 4 assist for a striker is Crazy.

Also Benzema has played just 444 minute why Messi have played 450, that is 6 minute more than Benzema.


Benzema get my vote


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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:47 pm

Oh no you didnt
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:48 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Show me one single under 24 player be it a defender, midfielder or a striker that has a better record in this year CPL than Real Madrid Karim Benzema

Just to mention a few good performers, Seydou Doumbia(dont look under 23 to me) Isaac Cuenca and Nicolás Gaitán, Toni Kroos.

Karim Benzema, Appearance 6, Goals 4, assist 4.

This is quite easy to figure out, Lionel Messi of Barcelona have 5 appearance with 6 goals and 3 assists


Messi has taken 14 more shots.........Volume shooter banana
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:50 pm

Idrisozet wrote:Come to think of it, it's debatable who has performed better Between Benzema and Messi.

Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

I say Benzema might just be ahead of Messi, 4 assist for a striker is Crazy.

Also Benzema has played just 444 minute why Messi have played 450, that is 1 minute more than Benzema.


Benzema get my vote

Messi 9 contributions in 5 games = 1.80 per game
Benzema 8 contributions in 6 games = 1.25 per game

Is it really debatable?
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:51 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Show me one single under 24 player be it a defender, midfielder or a striker that has a better record in this year CPL than Real Madrid Karim Benzema

Just to mention a few good performers, Seydou Doumbia(dont look under 23 to me) Isaac Cuenca and Nicolás Gaitán, Toni Kroos.

Karim Benzema, Appearance 6, Goals 4, assist 4.

This is quite easy to figure out, Lionel Messi of Barcelona have 5 appearance with 6 goals and 3 assists


Messi has taken 14 more shots.........Volume shooter banana

Messi played against weak teams, except A.C

And one more thing how many penalties did Messi score...? I dont really know but I think he scored 1 against Milan or something


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Post by Le Samourai Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:53 pm

Advanced statistics.

Messi :1 goal every 6.33 shots

Benzema : 1 goal every 6 shots

Benzema also has 1 more assist. :dance:
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:54 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:Come to think of it, it's debatable who has performed better Between Benzema and Messi.

Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

I say Benzema might just be ahead of Messi, 4 assist for a striker is Crazy.

Also Benzema has played just 444 minute why Messi have played 450, that is 1 minute more than Benzema.


Benzema get my vote

Messi 9 contributions in 5 games = 1.80 per game
Benzema 8 contributions in 6 games = 1.25 per game

Is it really debatable?

Despite playing one less game Messi has played 6 more minutes banana
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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:57 pm

Messi has 4 assists in UCL, it's 6+4@5.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:58 pm

So are you saying Messi has 2 more contribution in spite of playing virtually the same amount of time? :dance:
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Post by free_cat Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:00 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

Absolutely! Messi played against such a terrible opposition, like AC Milan, while Real Madrid played European giants such as Lyon, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

Such a difference in opposition.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:00 pm

jiopsi wrote:Messi has 4 assists in UCL, it's 6+4@5.

Messi has 3 assist in CPL and has score 2 penalties out of the 6 goals.
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:03 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
jiopsi wrote:Messi has 4 assists in UCL, it's 6+4@5.

Messi has 3 assist in CPL and has score 2 penalties out of the 6 goals.

/thread.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:04 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
jiopsi wrote:Messi has 4 assists in UCL, it's 6+4@5.

Messi has 3 assist in CPL and has score 2 penalties out of the 6 goals.
Why do you bother? Messi assisted Pedro and Xavi against Milan, Iniesta and Villa against Plzen. You can watch it at youtube if you like. Also the first penalty, he was the fouled player.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:06 pm

Benzema is UCL king so far, jog on it
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:06 pm

Nick, it's jog on, not go on it.

Poor man's cyber :coffee:
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:08 pm

free_cat wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

Absolutely! Messi played against such a terrible opposition, like AC Milan, while Real Madrid played European giants such as Lyon, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

Such a difference in opposition.

Messi managed to score 1 penalty against Milan, 2 against Bate, 3 against Plzen of which 1 was a penalty.

Benzema 1 against Ajax, 1 against Lyon and 2 against Zagreb, with no penalty and played less minute.

I am not saying Benzema is a better player, but according to statistic he has performed better than Messi and you wont notice it unless of course if you look into it properly with open mind.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:09 pm

jiopsi wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
jiopsi wrote:Messi has 4 assists in UCL, it's 6+4@5.

Messi has 3 assist in CPL and has score 2 penalties out of the 6 goals.
Why do you bother? Messi assisted Pedro and Xavi against Milan, Iniesta and Villa against Plzen. You can watch it at youtube if you like. Also the first penalty, he was the fouled player.

You are lying, Messi has 3 assist, I dont know where you saw 4 assist from, this official Uefa official website and they update their website live and are always up to date

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/clubs/player=95803/index.html


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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:10 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
free_cat wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Messi 5 appearance 6 goals and 3 assist against weak teams.

Benzema 6 appearance, 4goals and 4 assist against good teams.

Absolutely! Messi played against such a terrible opposition, like AC Milan, while Real Madrid played European giants such as Lyon, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

Such a difference in opposition.

Messi managed to score 1 penalty against Milan, 2 against Bate, 3 against Plzen of which 1 was a penalty.

Benzema 1 against Ajax, 1 against Lyon and 2 against Zagreb, with no penalty and played less minute.

I am not saying Benzema is a better player, but according to statistic he has performed better than Messi and you wont notice it unless of course if you look into it properly with open mind.
1+2 against Milan > 4+4 at that group. Sorry.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:12 pm

Well if we're going by statistics and statistics alone 4+4+2PKs is still better than 4+4 :coffee:
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