Can Messi break Muller's all-time european record, most official goals by a player for a single Club in a top league.?

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Post by Khaled Mon May 14, 2012 11:13 am

Note: Gerd Muller's record for Bayern Munich 573 goals in 616 official games (via rsssf).

Its very very difficult to reach Muller's... but you never know, Messi is full of surprises Smile

He needs to score 248+ goals for Barcelona to reach 500+ goals... He's almost 25, it depend on 3 things:
- How many years will Messi play for Barca?
- If he stay fit and away from injuries...
- If he stay motivated...


Let's say 8 more years?
So he needs an average of 31+ goals a season for the next 8 years to reach 500+ goals for Barcelona.

2012-13 (25 years old): 60+
2013-2014 (26 years old): 55+
2014-2015 (27 years old): 50+
2015-2016 (28 years old): 45+
2016-2017 (29 years old): 40+
2017-2018 (30 years old): 30+
2018-2019 (31 years old): 25+
2019-2020 (32 years old): 20+

at this rate for example: in 8 years +325 goals ===> Total of 577+ goals for Barcelona at 32 years old affraid

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Post by rwo power Mon May 14, 2012 11:22 am

Well, Messi broke a lot of records already, and to quote the legendary Gerd Müller himself: "Records are there to be broken".
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Post by free_cat Mon May 14, 2012 11:35 am

Unless he gets an injury, he will.
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Post by bazinga Mon May 14, 2012 7:39 pm

If he can't, nobody can.
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Post by Gomez83 Mon May 14, 2012 7:46 pm

The better question is when will he break it not if Smile
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Post by Ion Creanga Mon May 14, 2012 7:51 pm

In today's soccer it's really hard to break that record... I doubt he will, but he'll get to 400! I know for sure that c.ronaldo won't get even close to messi!
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Post by DuringTheWar Tue May 15, 2012 12:47 am

Hes done well to stay consistent for 4 years now. Hes played 50+ games for 4 seasons in a row + international tournaments in the summer, for a player that does so much running and gets fouled a lot that might cause a backlash of injuries in future. I guess we will see, also over the next 8 years the barcelona team will change a lot so it will be interesting to see if messi's goal output remains the same
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Post by FCBarça Tue May 15, 2012 5:11 am

Gomez83 wrote:The better question is when will he break it not if Smile

Better question actually might be, should he break it?...I think Leo needs to have more help in front of goal so it doesn't have to be a solo act out there
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue May 15, 2012 8:04 am

If Leo has more help it won't make him score less, only that the team will score more.
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Post by Khaled Tue May 15, 2012 10:12 am

Gerd Muller scored 41 goals in 34 games for Bayern in (Regionalliga Süd) in 1964-65.
Total: 573 goals in 616 games between 1964 and 1979.
===> So its 532 goals in 582 official games at Bayern's 1st team?

That means; Messi needs 281+ goals to beat Muller's record..

he needs an average of 35+ goals for the next 8 years...

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I' am still not sure about the accurate number, but for sure its between 521 and 532.


521 goals in 568 official games in [Bundesliga, German Cup, German Liga Cup and European competitions] by Gerd Muller [1964–1979].
365 goals in 427 Bundesliga games, international record of 66 goals in 74 European Club games, 78 goals in 62 German Cup games and 12 goals in 5 Liga Cup games.
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Post by Khaled Tue May 15, 2012 10:30 am

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Post by Gomez83 Wed May 16, 2012 1:28 am

FCBarça wrote:
Gomez83 wrote:The better question is when will he break it not if Smile

Better question actually might be, should he break it?...I think Leo needs to have more help in front of goal so it doesn't have to be a solo act out there
I love Barcelona, but I am also a huge Messi fan and as a Messi fan of course he should break it so he is in the books for a long time, not just a title etc.
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Post by Khaled Sat May 19, 2012 11:36 pm

¤ OFFICIAL: #Messi becomes the 1st player ever to be the #ucl Top-Scorer in 4 consecutive seasons #fcblive (2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012).

- 2nd ever to win it 4 times after Gerd Muller in (1973, 1974, 1975 and 1977).
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