Mario Gomez 2nd best player in the world apparently

Lord Spencer wrote: with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

Sushi Master wrote:Babun!

Ironically, this was German hype week and none were your threads.

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found ON THE FIRST 3 WEBSITE

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, RONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

IS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT MANY DO CONSIDER MULLER AS THE BEST STRIKER OF TIME

BUT NOT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME

MARADONA>messi wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found ON THE FIRST 3 WEBSITE

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, RONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

IS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT MANY DO CONSIDER MULLER AS THE BEST STRIKER OF TIME

BUT NOT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME

on bing second website
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/best-soccer-striker.asp

1.Fernando Torres
2.Ronaldo
3.Lionel Messi
4.Wayne Rooney
5.Didier Drogba
6.Hakan Sukur
7.Miroslav Klose
8.Thierry Henry
9.Lukas Podolski
10.OMAR BRAVO

babun1024 wrote:

Sushi Master wrote:Babun!

Ironically, this was German hype week and none were your threads.

I contributed to more Bayern fans The seeds were planted by me, the pioneer

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

Idrisozet wrote:

MARADONA>messi wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found ON THE FIRST 3 WEBSITE

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, RONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

IS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT MANY DO CONSIDER MULLER AS THE BEST STRIKER OF TIME

BUT NOT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME

on bing second website
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/best-soccer-striker.asp

1.Fernando Torres
2.Ronaldo
3.Lionel Messi
4.Wayne Rooney
5.Didier Drogba
6.Hakan Sukur
7.Miroslav Klose
8.Thierry Henry
9.Lukas Podolski
10.OMAR BRAVO

I can assure you that you have no ideal of what we are talking about...

That list include recent strikers, not best of all time and neither is it a recent post.

GOD HELP SOME PEOPLE

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

MARADONA>messi wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

MARADONA>messi wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found ON THE FIRST 3 WEBSITE

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, RONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

IS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT MANY DO CONSIDER MULLER AS THE BEST STRIKER OF TIME

BUT NOT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME

on bing second website
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/best-soccer-striker.asp

1.Fernando Torres
2.Ronaldo
3.Lionel Messi
4.Wayne Rooney
5.Didier Drogba
6.Hakan Sukur
7.Miroslav Klose
8.Thierry Henry
9.Lukas Podolski
10.OMAR BRAVO

I can assure you that you have no ideal of what we are talking about...

That list include recent strikers, not best of all time and neither is it a recent post.

GOD HELP SOME PEOPLE

WTF ARE YOU INSANE HOW IS TORRES NOT THE GOAT STRIKER
why do you think i posted this,sigh it was a joke...

Lord Spencer wrote:If you unlock the door to get Gomez into Tier one before this season ends, then you will have to put in all the rest of them. Cavani, Higuain, Benzema. (I think Gomez is the best of them)

I think it is prudent to wait this season before you start unlocking unnecessary doors. The definition of Tier on is that people would not hesitate to put him there. And since there are obviously doubters, then until he proves the doubters wrong. He can't be considered Tier one.

If you put him in, the whole balance gets thrown off.

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

You point now is that Rooney has been great all season, I though he had a terrible season after he got injured against Bayern.

Gomez has had better season than Rooney over the last five years, his worst season came under Van Gaal and he was injured most of the season...

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

He wasn't hyped for 3 years? I'll show old footage tomorrow. We'll see what you'll say about it afterwards because I don't like to base my arguments on thin air like some people tend to...
I'm not hyping him, in fact I thought he was utter crap but then he made me his fan (ask idrisozet) He is a tier one player, so far he scored against anyone he faced. He can only score against what's in front of him
Big team performance? Remember Bayern vs. Manu first leg? Watch how the second goal was created by a substitute... 2-1

Lord Spencer wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

You point now is that Rooney has been great all season, I though he had a terrible season after he got injured against Bayern.

Gomez has had better season than Rooney over the last five years, his worst season came under Van Gaal and he was injured most of the season...

Gomez had a great season last year, Rooney have been doing it longer. Which is why I think Rooney edges now. If they bot h continue their current trends. Gomez will be ahead. Pure and simple, this is a time issue, you can't collapse the boy's whole career and judge it by one or two seasons, just as I said he was not shit during his first year at bayern because I saw him in Stuttgart.

He is maturing, improved his defense and improved his overall play. He is becoming like Klose is with Germany but is even more lethal. Yet, we don't know if the trend will continue or not. Which is why time should be the judge.


@jibers, form is temporary, class is eternal. Gomez is proved he can have a lethal form, this season is where he proves he has class.

Lord Spencer wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

You point now is that Rooney has been great all season, I though he had a terrible season after he got injured against Bayern.

Gomez has had better season than Rooney over the last five years, his worst season came under Van Gaal and he was injured most of the season...

Gomez had a great season last year, Rooney have been doing it longer. Which is why I think Rooney edges now. If they bot h continue their current trends. Gomez will be ahead. Pure and simple, this is a time issue, you can't collapse the boy's whole career and judge it by one or two seasons, just as I said he was not shit during his first year at bayern because I saw him in Stuttgart.

He is maturing, improved his defense and improved his overall play. He is becoming like Klose is with Germany but is even more lethal. Yet, we don't know if the trend will continue or not. Which is why time should be the judge.


@jibers, form is temporary, class is eternal. Gomez is proved he can have a lethal form, this season is where he proves he has class.

babun1024 wrote:

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Another butthurt Serie A fan...

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Another butthurt Serie A fan...

So I am butthurt because Gomez is being hyped. Why the *bleep* would I care. I am constantly saying how great he *bleep* is last year. And yet you are the one who seems fixated on hyping the guy.

I said the same thing to Milan fans hyping Pato, to Juve fans hyping Marchisio, to Arsenal fans hyping RVP and would say it to Bayern fans hyping Gomez. One year is not enough. I am saying he IS the greatest of the bunch of players knocking the door of greatness, but he is not there yet. If you were confident of his abilities you would just wait a year to see how the season treats him.

You wouldn't even have to come to me because I will most likely be the one to congratulate him. Why would I get butthurt at watching a great player play. You are stupid at saying that I am butthurt when none of my posts indicated such.

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Another butthurt Serie A fan...

So I am butthurt because Gomez is being hyped. Why the *bleep* would I care. I am constantly saying how great he *bleep* is last year. And yet you are the one who seems fixated on hyping the guy.

I said the same thing to Milan fans hyping Pato, to Juve fans hyping Marchisio, to Arsenal fans hyping RVP and would say it to Bayern fans hyping Gomez. One year is not enough. I am saying he IS the greatest of the bunch of players knocking the door of greatness, but he is not there yet. If you were confident of his abilities you would just wait a year to see how the season treats him.

You wouldn't even have to come to me because I will most likely be the one to congratulate him. Why would I get butthurt at watching a great player play. You are stupid at saying that I am butthurt when none of my posts indicated such.

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:But I never said Benz is WC, Gomes is miles better than Benz. And I know Gomez played great in his final year with Stuttgart. However, this is the year he can announce himself as a Tier 1 current player with both Bayren and Germany poised for silver.

If he does not show up, then he will not make the step up some claim he already is in. I think we both can agree he is not a current Tier 1 player.

Again, excuses... He was great for Stuttgart for 3 years but you only count the last one One example, after he left they collapsed They can't even reach anywhere near CL places anymore for 2nd year

No, he wasn't "great" for 3 years, you throw the word around so much it lost its meaning, he was good for two years, and great in the last. Similarly with Bayren, he was meh one year and great the next.

So what you are saying, is that you think he IS a Tier 1 player, and in which case you are not just over-hyping for the sake of over-hyping but you are believing all this hype. Seriously, and all this without him having a big performance against a top European side.

@rwo, as in Silverware, not as in second place. The only gold trophy is the World Cup, and that is three years later.

You point now is that Rooney has been great all season, I though he had a terrible season after he got injured against Bayern.

Gomez has had better season than Rooney over the last five years, his worst season came under Van Gaal and he was injured most of the season...

Gomez had a great season last year, Rooney have been doing it longer. Which is why I think Rooney edges now. If they bot h continue their current trends. Gomez will be ahead. Pure and simple, this is a time issue, you can't collapse the boy's whole career and judge it by one or two seasons, just as I said he was not shit during his first year at bayern because I saw him in Stuttgart.

He is maturing, improved his defense and improved his overall play. He is becoming like Klose is with Germany but is even more lethal. Yet, we don't know if the trend will continue or not. Which is why time should be the judge.


@jibers, form is temporary, class is eternal. Gomez is proved he can have a lethal form, this season is where he proves he has class.

You can't get don't you, My point is that over the past 5 years, season after season, Gomez has been performing

babun1024 wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Another butthurt Serie A fan...

So I am butthurt because Gomez is being hyped. Why the *bleep* would I care. I am constantly saying how great he *bleep* is last year. And yet you are the one who seems fixated on hyping the guy.

I said the same thing to Milan fans hyping Pato, to Juve fans hyping Marchisio, to Arsenal fans hyping RVP and would say it to Bayern fans hyping Gomez. One year is not enough. I am saying he IS the greatest of the bunch of players knocking the door of greatness, but he is not there yet. If you were confident of his abilities you would just wait a year to see how the season treats him.

You wouldn't even have to come to me because I will most likely be the one to congratulate him. Why would I get butthurt at watching a great player play. You are stupid at saying that I am butthurt when none of my posts indicated such.

Gomez 132 League Goals in 233 appearance since 2003

Rooney 126 league goals in 291 appearance since 2002.

Again for you, check wikipedia, espn or any other source. Numbers don't lie, specially for strikers

Notice, post length =|= quality

Idrisozet wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:

babun1024 wrote:

jibers wrote:I'm sorry but on current form he is the second best player in the big leagues atm. Why people are complaining is beyond me.

Another butthurt Serie A fan...

So I am butthurt because Gomez is being hyped. Why the *bleep* would I care. I am constantly saying how great he *bleep* is last year. And yet you are the one who seems fixated on hyping the guy.

I said the same thing to Milan fans hyping Pato, to Juve fans hyping Marchisio, to Arsenal fans hyping RVP and would say it to Bayern fans hyping Gomez. One year is not enough. I am saying he IS the greatest of the bunch of players knocking the door of greatness, but he is not there yet. If you were confident of his abilities you would just wait a year to see how the season treats him.

You wouldn't even have to come to me because I will most likely be the one to congratulate him. Why would I get butthurt at watching a great player play. You are stupid at saying that I am butthurt when none of my posts indicated such.

Do you want me to compare Gomez stats with Rooney stats over the last 5 season, season after season, You will be very surprise that Gomez has had better season over the last 5 years, season after season.


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