Mario Gomez 2nd best player in the world apparently

EarlyPrototype wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Another way of saying I give up I was wrong?

Seriosul Gerd Muller not consider as one of the best strikers of all time.\

are you kidding me...?????

Gerd Muller? who the hell is talking about him? lool

You are a bit blind ain't you.

For Godsake believe it or not it's a big might that Gomez doesn't drop deep, only score tap in.

I didn't have to dig deep to prove my point. I just had to look up his 3 last matches which sort of support my argument.

Where you dropped when you were born?

Just one thing tho in defense of Gomez.

The myth that he's been at the top for 1 year is really false. He was German fotballer of the year in 2007 ffs.

He has had 1 average season since 07-08 , his first season with Bayern.

Thanks Spence.

Idriozet, I don't mean to be rude. But everyone here has absolutely wiped the floor with you as your standing on one leg really.....for like the 5th time this month

Lord Spencer wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Another way of saying I give up I was wrong?

Seriosul Gerd Muller not consider as one of the best strikers of all time.\

are you kidding me...?????

Comprehension fail. Arq said it is one reason he is not considered THE best striker of all time.
Which means that he is among the best strikers, but is not considered the beset by majority.

FAIL! FAIL.!!! FAIL>!!!

There is no conclusive fact who the best striker of all time is, people only have their own opinion.


But we can all agree that there is a conclusive fact on who some of the best striker of all time are and Gerd Muller is definitely in that league

you see why I say you are narrow minded.

I think that was his point, though, Idrisozet. No one's saying Gerd isn't a GOAT, but since he "only scores tap ins" and wasn't the most techinically gifted player most don't consider him THE GOAT (which IMO, doesn't exist).

Arquitecto wrote:Thanks Spence.

Idriozet, I don't mean to be rude. But everyone here has absolutely wiped the floor with you as your standing on one leg really.....for like the 5th time this month

That's because Madrid fans have the largest fan base on this forum

have you ever see me commenting on nonse on Madrid Fans post but whenever there is a post about one Bayern player

here you go, the invaders arrives.

Anyways, let us settle this debate like men:

So you just basically admitted that your arse gets handed to you because there are a lot of madrid fans?

this gets better and better.

Sushi Master wrote:I think that was his point, though, Idrisozet. No one's saying Gerd isn't a GOAT, but since he "only scores tap ins" and wasn't the most techinically gifted player most don't consider him THE GOAT (which IMO, doesn't exist).

I swear I dont understand you.

His point was that Many dont consider Gerd Muller as the best striker of all time, which implies that many do consider others as the best striker of time as oppose to Muller who only score tap in.

Which in turns mean that his of the opinion that there is such thing as the best striker of all time.

If he believe that there is no such thing as the best striker of time, then that is absolutely based on opinion, but if he believes that there is no such thing as best striker of all time but one of the best striker of all time


Then the hightest ranking a striker get is being among the best striker of all time, then why even say such thing as Muller is not consider the best striker of time, when it doesn't exist.

Didn't Pele have More than 1000 goals to his name..?

0.87 scoring ratio with Bayern, 1.09 ratio with Germany... Pretty much a goal every game. He's a legend, just underrated due to Cruyff and other flashy forwards of that era.

Best poacher of all time, though. No question.

Thing is, most people associate greatness with huge technical skills and flashy tricks, something which Mueller lacked.

Now efficiency wise no one's gotten close to him.

Beckenbauer > Muller

Goals aren't the be all and end all.

Oh yeah, agreed. Also overshadowed by the Kaiser, even though he was just as important. The leadership and overall completeness of the Kaiser cannot be reached by just any player.

Sushi Master wrote:0.87 scoring ratio with Bayern, 1.09 ratio with Germany... Pretty much a goal every game. He's a legend, just underrated due to Cruyff and other flashy forwards of that era.

Best poacher of all time, though. No question.

Thing is, most people associate greatness with huge technical skills and flashy tricks, something which Mueller lacked.

Now efficiency wise no one's gotten close to him.

Every body have their own opinion as to who the best striker of all time is, personally I dont think there is such thing as the best striker of all time.

I agree that Many dont consider Gerd Muller as one of the best player of all time

But to say his not consider by some or even many as one of the best striker of time is beyond my understanding.

Go on google and type best strikers of all time, I guarantee you that all the list you will see will have muller in it, be it professional list or people opinion.

But I do agree when you type best player of all time his name might not come up more than twice on the first 10 list you find.

If I can remember he was clearly talking about best striker

Sushi Master wrote:0.87 scoring ratio with Bayern, 1.09 ratio with Germany... Pretty much a goal every game. He's a legend, just underrated due to Cruyff and other flashy forwards of that era.

Best poacher of all time, though. No question.

Thing is, most people associate greatness with huge technical skills and flashy tricks, something which Mueller lacked.

Now efficiency wise no one's gotten close to him.

Thank you Sushi.

The point I went across was that Muller was an absolutely superb goalscorer. But there is more needed for one to be considered hands down GOAT striker in terms of attributes and ability.

Idriozet does not understand that I am saying that Muller simply wouldn't pop up in footballing experts as the GOAT in terms of strikers. Of course he would be mentioned as ONE of the best of all time. But there are some ahead of him in terms of deserved acclaim and individual plaudit.

Let's hope Gomez doesn't re-produce some misses he produced in Austria.

It's a shame that we won't see Klose start in his homeland.

I am buying my Germany, Podolski jersey in a month though

Gomez better than Rooney and Ronaldo

Klose will get some games. Gomez can't start them all, and Klose is still class.

Klose is Polish, though, not Austrian

Gomez better than Rooney and Ronaldo

Only according to Castrol.

Never mind Idrisozet claiming Gomez to be better than Rooney we still haven't discussed why Gomez is ranked higher than Ronaldo.

Castrol and Goal.com are made for each other lol.

Ah, but we all know of Castrol's crappiness. Probably he's there due to his insane scoring form. 21 goals in 19 starts and 2 assists overall.

When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found ON THE FIRST 3 WEBSITE

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, RONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

IS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT MANY DO CONSIDER MULLER AS THE BEST STRIKER OF TIME

BUT NOT THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, rONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

As Spencer said, you massively failed in comprehension.

Read my post again.

I said there is a reason why Muller isn't rated as THE BEST striker of all time by football experts.

SMH

Arquitecto wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, rONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

As Spencer said, you massively failed in comprehension.

Read my post again.

I said there is a reason why Muller isn't rated as THE BEST striker of all time by football experts.

SMH

Prove it that many don't consider Muller as the best striker of all time, I assure you that, thats your opinion many do consider him as the best striker of time

But I understand not everyone consider him as the best footballer of all time.

Why it turned into gomez vs rooney i dont understand. absolutely irrelevant discussion

Idrisozet wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, rONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

As Spencer said, you massively failed in comprehension.

Read my post again.

I said there is a reason why Muller isn't rated as THE BEST striker of all time by football experts.

SMH

Prove it that many don't consider Muller as the best striker of all time, I assure you that, thats your opinion many do consider him as the best striker of time

But I understand not everyone consider him as the best footballer of all time.

Ahem, your links prove that many don't consider Muller as the best striker at all time, only one has him as #1.

With that said, what a joy this is, seeing non-United fans praising our little Rooney, Roonay, whatever

Idrisozet wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

Idrisozet wrote:When I searched best striker of all time here is what I found

On this website Muller was no 5
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/145411-greatest-ever-football-top-ten-strikers-of-all-time

Muller was no 1 among 50 best striker
http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?72652-The-Greatest-Strikers-of-All-Time

Muller no 3
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=8c1ced6b50b32382b765e8ff1a7f8521&t=1636973&page=11


But when I typed best player of all time here is what I found

http://www.football-history.net/best-players.htm
No Muller

http://listverse.com/2008/12/11/top-20-football-players-of-all-time/
Muller no 6

http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/92f_top_10_list.html
no Muller


I DONT KNOW IF IT'S SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...EG CRUYF , PELE, rONALDINHO, MARADONA, Franz BeckenbaueR

AND BEST STRIKER OF ALL TIME EG MULLER, Ronaldo, Eusebio. ETC

As Spencer said, you massively failed in comprehension.

Read my post again.

I said there is a reason why Muller isn't rated as THE BEST striker of all time by football experts.

SMH

Prove it that many don't consider Muller as the best striker of all time, I assure you that, thats your opinion many do consider him as the best striker of time

But I understand not everyone consider him as the best footballer of all time.

Prove it?

It general footballing knowledge to know who is considered to be THE BEST and who is not.

Obviously there are exceptions but the percentage is very low to consider Muller the best as he simply WAS NOT. There are several who were ahead of him and if you don't know that, then do your homework.

Prove it? I don't have to as this is a general consensus that he isn't as I am simply stating what I know of from footballing historians and experts as I've yet to see one call him the best of all time. There may be a small percentage but exceptions are NOT counted as the rule.

Simple logic really. If anything, you should proof the critical opinion Muller if he is or not.

Your tying yourself up in knots here.