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Post by futbol_bill Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:27 pm

Clutch wrote:
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Clutch wrote:Didn't matter if we wanted Haaland this year. He was always going to city

What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap

That’s not right! He had said he wanted Spain specifically Real Madrid until Flo asked him if he could wait 2 years (Benz’s timing) plus it was an indication that they had Mbappe as the priority (and then Mbappe suckered Flo by supposedly agreeing to deal - and Flo assuming his word was good)

It was only after that (in January / February timeframe), that City entered into the mix.

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Post by Chad31 Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:44 pm

Haaland going to city is same reason mbappe chose to stay at psg, just wait out benzema out in 2 or 3 seasons come in as a starter and star no whining or debate, why become a talking point if you are rotating which you won't want to do, nor do you want to disrupt the locker room or be a distraction cause of the fanboys and media circus, either mbappe vs vinicius for LW or Haaland vs benzema for CF would be very toxic which spanish media love to play up.

just go to man city dominate the prem build up more fame, winning while learning, going on deep ucl runs, bank up and fulfill some wishes for your dad.
mbappe continues to try and win with psg for a couple more seasons while getting paid insane well, the club can go for both if possible, but it makes sense to pick one and both want the starting CF minimum, unless vinicius goes off course.

I'm sure mbappe would have came to madrid if psg knocked out them out, even if they didn't win the CL in the end, but vinicius locked down LW and CF is locked up too, so getting pushed to RW as main man on the team isn't something mbappe is too keen on, so he tried to force neymar out for the LW spot or its CF, at least that how I see it but I think mbappe should have come to the club now, if he waits and rodygo continues to improve he will then who knows, if vini and rodry can give 15-20+ goals and 8-12+ Assists a season then it's really gonna come down to one spot, the better CF should be the target.

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Post by Clutch Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:53 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Clutch wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:

What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap

That’s not right! He had said he wanted Spain specifically Real Madrid until Flo asked him if he could wait 2 years (Benz’s timing) plus it was an indication that they had Mbappe as the priority (and then Mbappe suckered Flo by supposedly agreeing to deal - and Flo assuming his word was good)

It was only after that (in January / February timeframe), that City entered into the mix.
you've lost a lot of cred with the whole mbappe debacle over the summer. You gotta earn that trust back

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Post by Nishankly Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:56 pm

Clutch wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:
Clutch wrote:Didn't matter if we wanted Haaland this year. He was always going to city

What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap


How does a player go cheap or expensive when he has a release clause in their contract?
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Post by Clutch Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:17 am

Nishankly wrote:
Clutch wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:
What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap


How does a player go cheap or expensive when he has a release clause in their contract?
why was city the only one to activate it?

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Post by Nishankly Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:23 am

Clutch wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Clutch wrote: He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap


How does a player go cheap or expensive when he has a release clause in their contract?
why was city the only one to activate it?


Because they met the release clause set by Dortmund?
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Post by Casciavit Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:48 am

In the documentary, his father Alfie reveals that Haaland and the surrounding team had a points system to rank the various clubs between them. These were some of the factors Alfie mentioned:

The need for a “number nine” (a type of striker)
How good the team is
The size of the club
The economy
The quality of the league
The fans and the stadium
How the team will change

– On our list, they (Bayern) are number two, right now. City is the best team I think. Real Madrid is number three. PSG is number four. You also have some English players who are quite good, both Liverpool and Chelsea apart from City. Then Barcelona is in the same row. Liverpool is also right up there, said Alfie Haaland in February.

This was from the Haaland documentary.
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Post by farfan Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:13 am

History wasn't a factor for them? If I were him I would've chosen Madrid just so that I can smash all of Ronaldo's records Laughing
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Post by Casciavit Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:36 am

Assuming the top teams were all willing to pay a big economic package, then from a sporting perspective City made the most sense.

- They had a clear hole in the team playing without a #9 so Haaland could slot in
- Chance creation machines, so he'll score lots of goals
- Dominated the PL in the last 5 years
- English media hype
- Fame from playing in the PL
- Stability (Pep's been there for 7 years etc)
- Make a lot of money
- Rich team so they can fill other weaknesses within the squad easily
- Coach who can develop his technical weaknesses
- His dad used to play for them and apparently Erling is genuinely a City fan so there is a fan connection there
- Fits the "missing piece" narrative for their quest in the CL so if they do win the CL he'll win the Ballon d'or due to optics
- City don't prison their players like PSG does so leaving can be an option in the future

City was the best choice among them. I imagine he'll stay there for 2-3 seasons, potentially win them the CL in one of those seasons, then go to Barca/Madrid after Lewa/Benz leave and dominate there during his prime.

Although I find it interesting that Bayern was their second choice. I remember reading reports that Lewa was upset Bayern was willing to offload him so they can build around Haaland instead. In the documentary, Haaland himself says he felt bad that Lewa was in that situation given what Lewa had done for Bayern.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:17 am

Did Bayern ever wanted Haaland? They definitely look like they do now struggling post Lewand for a goal scorer, and Alfie ranking them second definitely made them of the the favs if they wanted to...
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Post by Clutch Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:29 am

Nishankly wrote:
Clutch wrote:
Nishankly wrote:

How does a player go cheap or expensive when he has a release clause in their contract?
why was city the only one to activate it?


Because they met the release clause set by Dortmund?
and no other team couldnt?

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Post by El Gunner Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:34 am

Myesyats wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Myesyats wrote:


Who even debates that and why is this thing? Haaland is world class while Nunez is potentially a good player.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:36 am

It's simple. Haaland wanted to come to the GOAT league... it's really that simple, don't make it more complicated
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:40 am

Clutch wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:
Clutch wrote:Didn't matter if we wanted Haaland this year. He was always going to city

What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap


He went relatively cheap only in terms of the transfer fee, which was fixed due to Raiola negotiating a release clause into his BVB contract. The amount of the transfer fee has nothing to do with where he wanted to go, every club was going to pay the same.

Where he was crazy expensive was in terms of wages and, probably, signing and agent fees. City are paying him Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar and Mbappé (pre-extension) level wages, which are massive for a young kid, and we don't know whether Real were willing to pay as much (Bayern certainly weren't).
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Post by Clutch Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:03 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Clutch wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:

What makes you think that?
He wanted city and they wanted him as I understood it. That's why he went relatively cheap


He went relatively cheap only in terms of the transfer fee, which was fixed due to Raiola negotiating a release clause into his BVB contract. The amount of the transfer fee has nothing to do with where he wanted to go, every club was going to pay the same.

Where he was crazy expensive was in terms of wages and, probably, signing and agent fees. City are paying him Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar and Mbappé (pre-extension) level wages, which are massive for a young kid, and we don't know whether Real were willing to pay as much (Bayern certainly weren't).
oh okay that makes sense

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Post by futbol_bill Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:30 pm

Flo was prepared to pay, if he had been prioritized over Mbappe, which he wasn’t. However the main reason Madrid bowed out was the form of Benzema and thus the request to wait 2 years.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:54 pm

Partey is so important to Arsenal. Result against United might have been different if he was fit and playing.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:55 pm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:38 pm

An elaborate scam to get around ffp? Seems like their owners could actually afford a real company to do this
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:16 pm

Wouldn't be the first time they've done this either
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:59 am

I'm inclined to think that a random tweeter named Josimar Fotballblad is even more likely to be BS than an Asian betting company
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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:56 pm

Arsenal is looking like a serious team
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:56 pm

Arsenal have been excellent today. Spurs have set up to defend which hasn't paid off. Red card

Xakha with the 3rd. This could be a blood bath
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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:25 pm

a theme is developing this season:
- Martinelli skinning alive opposition right backs week in, week out

#ScaryHours
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Post by El Gunner Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:25 pm

Casciavit wrote:Arsenal is looking like a serious team

Partey is the key piece, can't get injured.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:31 pm

Seems risky to build a team around someone that might get arrested into the season
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