Re: 2022/2023 Premier League Discussion

by futbol_bill Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:21 pm

I wanted to respond to earlier posts about the need for rotations to be able to compete in multiple competitions.

Before I write what I think is happening with the top clubs, I first want to repeat a post I just made in another thread about the economics of today’s game.

“ It’s a question of understanding the economics of today’s game. Reality is there are less than 10 clubs (2 in Spain, one in Germany and one in France, rest are in EPL) that can buy and pay the top players. Generally the salary structure is such that even the bottom dwellers on these teams are paid higher than others teams in general making it difficult to move underperformers. They generally, depending on country and basic business principles have to keep the true gross salary load (not the net that is usually reported) within the club’s operating income as well as other operating expenses. Of the 10 clubs, even with the EPL television revenues, not all of them have the same budget capacity such as City, Man U and perhaps Chelsea (depends on new owner) have.”

I believe it has always been necessary to have significant rotations to be able to compete in multiple competitions, but the pressure has increased in past several years due to the intense schedules including international games and the inevitable injuries that result. And now with the marketplace having a very limited number of teams that can buy top players, I think there is a movement within these top teams to have 12 to 15 so called starters having regular rotations. But not all of the 10 clubs can afford that and there are also at least a couple of them that make poor acquisitions or put too much of salary load into top 2 or 3 players.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:40 pm

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Wew

Inb4 money.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:43 pm

Money or not, I've been impressed with the nufc pressing game and they are absolutely playing with more hunger than most other teams in the league

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:47 pm

My come back to anyone that says anything is basically our best winger and striker have barely played and two of our best midfielders have both missed time.

Obviously we haven't had financial backing long enough to have real depth so I'm surprised it's going as well as it is. Eddie Howe seems really good at his job I guess.

by El Gunner Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:50 pm

i think they can challenge for the top 4 seeing as they don't have European football to fatigue them

by The Demon of Carthage Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:09 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Wew

Inb4 money.

Does this mean you will go back to watching football again? Or is it still a no-no?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:55 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Wew

Inb4 money.

Does this mean you will go back to watching football again? Or is it still a no-no?

I haven't been really, I've been checking results and trying to but it's hard to get back into after so long.

I just like trolling Firenze lmao.

by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:56 pm

Manchester United since Casemiro started pic.twitter.com/H8x9Ir4Eoh
— ChrisHazeArt.tez Dark Elves #OBJKT #MUFC (@PrinceChrisMUFC) October 25, 2022

Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

Where is your apology @Firenze

by Thimmy Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:13 pm

To be perfectly fair, Casemiro has very favorable stats because he's barely played since he transferred to Man United Razz

by The Demon of Carthage Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:44 am

halamadrid2 wrote:Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

They have a decent goalscorer. They just choose not to use him for valid and not so valid reasons.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:43 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Will singlehandedly make Utd a title contender if they can get a decent goalscorer

They have a decent goalscorer. They just choose not to use him for valid and not so valid reasons.

What are the 'not so valid' reasons?

by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:07 pm

starting to think Harvey Elliott is just a poor rich man's Oxlade-Chamberlain

by Casciavit Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:34 pm

Lolverpool

by Nishankly Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:38 pm

What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:40 pm

Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.

What do I smell? Is that the stench of excuses ?

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by Casciavit Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:41 pm

Van Dijk’s unbeaten Anfield record has come to an end

by Nishankly Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:43 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.

What do I smell? Is that the stench of excuses ?

Been asking you to come back since a long while brother even when you ignored Newcastle doing well last year, love it.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:46 pm

Good to see you too Heart

by Firenze Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:46 pm

the Klopp cycle is over and GL is mostly dead, sucks

prime Firenze would be cutting a scathing promo right now, sniff

by Nishankly Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:48 pm

Klopp cycle over like the last 5 years, but still the only team to beat Man City again this season.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:49 pm

Firenze wrote:the Klopp cycle is over and GL is mostly dead, sucks

prime Firenze would be cutting a scathing promo right now, sniff

Who is stopping you? Oh yeah I forgot, even during Klopp cycle being supposedly over your trash pile of a team is only 4 points clear of them Laughing

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:51 pm

Being able to slander every team in this league except for Arsenal feels pretty good ngl.

Eddie Howe :bow:

by Kaladin Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:59 pm

The Athletic journalists in the mud

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:27 pm

Virgils record being undone by a Marsch team is a prime MERICA moment.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:34 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Nishankly wrote:What do you expect? Curtis Jones, Henderson and Milner subbed on to win a game, that is where we are at. Imagine if Klopp could spend.

What do I smell? Is that the stench of excuses ?

not sure what's more pathetic, Klopp's inability to keep it up (must be the alcohol) or Liverpool fan's sheepish whining

by Firenze Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:14 pm

3 pts off third with a game in hand

ten haaaaaaaawg

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