2022/2023 Premier League Discussion

Casciavit wrote:

Thimmy wrote:Like with a lot of modern fullbacks, I don't think Cancelo's ever been particularly good defensively, and he seems prone to making mistakes when he's not simply expressing his offensive creativity. He occasionally more than makes up for that by being really good offensively.

And that's all well and good when City are cruising past the opponent team by controlling the game and keeping the ball out of their own half. They aren't reliant on his defensive contributions then. But he looks really bad when they don't control games and he's not allowed to push further up the pitch, which has been quite a common scenario in recent months.

I'm not familiar with how he performed at Juventus, but I do recall reading that some Juve supporters on here were not very happy with what he was offering for them. I get the impression that, like Jadon Sancho, he just needs creative freedom and no defensive obligations in order to show the positive sides to his game. And that may sound simple enough, but teams can't always afford to allow a single player that amount of luxury. It may work for Pep's teams when they are dominating possession, but not with the degree of complacency that seems to be present in the team these days.

Cancelo is shit defensively. I actually think he's worse than Trent in that regard. City fans will bring up his duel success by showing his high tackling percentage or aerial duel win percentage, but then disregard Cancelo gets embarrassed 1v1, has a brainfart every few games, and is woeful at playing the offside trap.

That being said though, he's one of the few fullbacks who can win games all on his own. He's a better creator than most attacking midfielders.

So he's obviously useful because of that, but I'm not sure if Pep ever truly liked him as a player. Cancelo's risk assessment when it comes to playing FB is genuinely awful. He loses the ball too much in areas he shouldn't be losing them in. Pep benched him in the big CL games, Santos benched him in the WC knockouts, and he wasn't trusted all that much in Serie A either.

Combine that with his shit attitude where he thinks he should be starting every game, then you're left with a potential dressing room cancer. Pep's trying to rally the troops for one last title charge, and getting rid of Cancelo creates a better atmosphere within the team.

The only issue is they don't have anyone to replace him. I know City plays a 3-4-3 these days, but your LB options are essentially Ake and Sergio Gomez, and Gomez has been awful whenever he's played. Don't be surprised if we see Foden start there one of these days.

Warrior wrote:What the hell are Chelsea doing ??

Winter is Coming wrote:@Casciavit @BarrileteCosmico

How is this Maximo Perrone? On reddit many Argentina say he's similar to Enzo, but more versatile and better ceiling to him. Fab said Pep picked him out on his own and is making him part of the first team, he was recently added to City CL team also. City generally have a good track record when it comes to Argentines.

Scout report:

Winter is Coming wrote:@Casciavit @BarrileteCosmico

How is this Maximo Perrone? On reddit many Argentina say he's similar to Enzo, but more versatile and better ceiling to him. Fab said Pep picked him out on his own and is making him part of the first team, he was recently added to City CL team also. City generally have a good track record when it comes to Argentines.

El Gunner wrote:

Casciavit wrote: I could see Jorginho starting big games as DM instead.

over Partey? you must be joking

Casciavit wrote:

Winter is Coming wrote:@Casciavit @BarrileteCosmico

How is this Maximo Perrone? On reddit many Argentina say he's similar to Enzo, but more versatile and better ceiling to him. Fab said Pep picked him out on his own and is making him part of the first team, he was recently added to City CL team also. City generally have a good track record when it comes to Argentines.

Haven't seen too much from him aside from a few clips. He seems like a tidy player though. Left footed, can play in different midfield roles, can dribble out of challenges, and has a good technique and passing range on him. He also seems good at winning duels and sticking his foot into challenges and wining the ball.

I'm not sure he starts for City any time soon, but if Pep hand picked him then he probably has unique tools. Although based on the profile I saw it wouldn't surprise me if he's converted to LB.