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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:57 pm

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I think the players at the club expect to control matches and be on the front foot, forcing the opposition to adapt to them. Instead, they're being sent out to react to the opposition and sacrifice their strengths for the plan, and they don't like it.


Perfect description of the Bayern team under Kovac, too, btw

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Post by CBarca Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:11 pm

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Jay29 wrote:
I think the players at the club expect to control matches and be on the front foot, forcing the opposition to adapt to them. Instead, they're being sent out to react to the opposition and sacrifice their strengths for the plan, and they don't like it.


Perfect description of the Bayern team under Kovac, too, btw


If today was of any indication, the part about the players not liking it is very accurate. I don't like to read that much into body language, but it was hard not to today. Players walking around, they looked apathetic despite it being a high energy/high pressure game in the second half. Didn't see many Arsenal players communicating, yelling, doing much of anything. As shocking as the performance was, perhaps as shocking to me was the intensity of the Arsenal team that was out there. They strolled to 2-0 up on schoolboy defending from Watford and the team never had to run at a fast pace. The second half picked up, and Arsenal kept on playing like it was the first half again, completely oblivious to a fired up Watford team and crowd.

I have no clue, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out the players have problems working under Emery. Speculating though, of course.
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Post by Sina Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:16 pm




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Post by Jay29 Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:19 pm

Xhaka's comments post-game said a lot.

On top of admitting the team was "scared in the second half", he said they were happy at half-time and thought they were playing well.

But the thing was, they weren't playing well at all. The scoreline was good, and that's a reason to be happy, but nothing about the performance suggested it was deserved. Arsenal managed two shots all half, gave up chances and lacked control. I feel like most teams would have been disappointed and know they could do much better.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it sounds like a mid-table mentality.

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Post by Sina Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:23 pm

its indeed,we are turning to midtable team that gives even average opponents too much respect,well that has already been the case since Emery's Arrival
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Post by El Gunner Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:33 pm

CBarca wrote:Where's El Gunner

Absolute bum mate. I tried to be positive about the start of the season, but I was deluding myself. Nothing has changed since he has come in. Granted we still have some shit players in our squad, i believe there is some quality here and there, but Emery doesn't know what to do with that quality.
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Post by Unique Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:49 pm

Just to remind people that Liverpool were still rubbish after klopp had been there for a year. It took him close to 2 years to turn Liverpool into the best team in Europe
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Post by Myesyats Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:53 pm

Cant be bothered to dig but I told you Emery is a coward from day 1. He's not a Kloppo and never will be
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:52 pm

No hunger and leadership, and everyone already accepted Emery not good enough. I don't believe he will get fired, he will finish his contract.
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Post by Jay29 Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:29 am

To touch on the Klopp/Liverpool comparison for a bit:

The big difference with Klopp was that, from the beginning, you could see what he wanted Liverpool to do and what he was building towards.

It wasn't just the style of football, either, but also the attitude of the team. He wanted his team to be aggressive, gutsy, and resilient, and I felt like you could see that in their early performances.

His early struggles came from a lack of quality in his squad, and not adapting his approach to compensate those weaknesses. Instead, he continued to focus on his team's strengths and make that great, which was admirable.

Emery has none of that going for him at Arsenal. His approach to games changes every week. There's no defined way of playing for his team and you can't say they're building towards anything in particular when you watch them.

His team isn't gutsy or resilient. Sometimes they're aggressive, but most of the time they're weak.

And even though his team lacks quality in certain areas, he's neither compensating for weaknesses or accentuating its strengths. Nobody looks good in his team.

This isn't a case where two or three key signings will suddenly make Arsenal better, like it was with Liverpool. It's a case of the whole project being flawed from the beginning.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:18 pm

Meh.

OUT.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:49 am

He's one the worst big game managers i have ever seen...  no joke.  He wets the bed almost every time. Reason? Instead of just sticking to the obvious, he tries to be clever. It rarely works.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:33 pm

It's high time, isn't it?
Surely he has not one more day left?

Rarely seen anyone more in need of sacking than this guy.
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Post by Firenze Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:52 pm

calma

just came out and said he has complete backing of the board
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:53 pm

Firenze wrote:calma

just came out and said he has complete backing of the board


if their board don't sack this guy tomorrow, their board needs to be sacked the day after, really
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Post by RealGunner Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:54 pm

Sacked before the weekend. Was going to be sacked despite the result tonight.

Talks with Pochettino's agent on going. Poch says yes and it's announced at the weekend.

Otherwise it's Freddie till ender da season

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:02 pm

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Talks with Pochettino's agent on going. Poch says yes and it's announced at the weekend.


I find it very, very hard to believe that this is likely to happen
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Post by Unique Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:13 pm

It's like the arsenal fans forgot that poch was the spurs manager. The next thing you know klopp will get the Everton job.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:14 pm

The people in charge at Arsenal might be the most idiotic football people in the top 5 leagues. They don't want to admit that they fucked up with the appointment and are desperately waiting for Emery to turn things around when even Emery himself doesn't believe it.
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Post by boyzis Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:33 pm

No arsenal don't want to pay him emery 4 million pounds that is all i can think of.

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Post by CBarca Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:59 pm

I mean, he has to be gone now hasn't he?

Get him out before the weekend
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Post by Robespierre Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:36 am

If you are Emery the biggest paradox is to be sacked because of an Europa League match... . But it'd be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Weird coach tbh, I mean it's hard to find a manager so average in league ( 5th place is his dimension) and at same time so effective in Europa League ( 3 wins and final just last year). Basically not good for a top club
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Post by Jay29 Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:54 am

There was one moment last night that summed up his approach. Arsenal were 2-1 down, with one sub left and Pepe and Lacazette still on the bench. Auba was on. Ozil was on. Mustafi had just hurt himself during the second goal. What does he do?

He brings on Torreira, a defensive midfielder.

Just to illustrate the difference, if it were Wenger in this sitaution, he would have moved Tierney to CB (as he's played there for Scotland), Saka to LB (as he's played there for the youth teams), and brought on Pepe/Laca for Mustafi. Because for all his faults in the end, Wenger had courage to go for games no matter how vulnerable it left his team at the other end.

With Emery, I was hopeful about having a coach who paid more attention to the opposition than Wenger did, but I didn't anticipate him paying them so much attention he forgot about his own team. Short-term, this approach might yield results, but long-term, every team needs a foundation and he failed to build one.

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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:12 am

We announce today that the decision has been taken to part company with our head coach Unai Emery and his coaching team.

Speaking on behalf of the Arsenal board and our owners Kroenke Sports & Entertainment, Josh Kroenke said: “Our most sincere thanks go to Unai and his colleagues who were unrelenting in their efforts to get the club back to competing at the level we all expect and demand. We wish Unai and his team nothing but future success.”

The decision has been taken due to results and performances not being at the level required.

We have asked Freddie Ljungberg to take responsibility for the first team as interim head coach. We have full confidence in Freddie to take us forward.

The search for a new head coach is underway and we will make a further announcement when that process is complete.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/unai-emery-leaves-club
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Post by danyjr Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:16 am

Poor guy.
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