Re: USA gun violence thread

[Unique]

CBS:
•4 Killed In Capital Gazette newspaper, Annapolis MD
•Shooter In Custody
•Male, White, In 20s, has no ID on him and refusing to identify himself
•Shot at newsroom from glass door
•Multiple casualties

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) June 28, 2018

Trump and his biggest supporters have been brazen in their disdain for the media all throughout his presidency, one of them, Milo Yiannopoulos, even called for reporters to be gunned down just days before this happened.

And of course because the shooter is white, he got taken into custody. If he was black, he'd be dead.

*sigh*

i remember when bush tried to get michael moore killed after his fahrenheit 911 documentary by saying something like that.

He would've had to have gotten in line. There were plenty that would've reveled in Moore's death for any number of the documentaries he's done. It's weird someone actually hasn't attempted it considering that he lives in one of the most violent, crime-ridden cities in the country, just 40 miles from where I live.

so in the land of the free you are in danger of getting killed for free speech. bush knew what he was doing when he said moore could get killed for saying the government was involved in 9/11. he was planting the seed into some crazy guys mind.

[McLewis]

Well yeah that doco helped fuel the 9/11 truther movement. Nowadays, they're considered as crazy as those folks who think we didn't land on the moon, Tupac and Biggie are still alive, and the Kennedy assassination was an inside job.

All of them are nutjobs until proven otherwise.

[Freeza]

Sacha Baron Cohen's new show has a great 13 minute segment about gun laws etc.

He gets multiple famous republican lawmakers and commentators to support a bill that will arm children down to the age of 4 in schools.

[VivaStPauli]

Sacha Baron Cohen's new show has a great 13 minute segment about gun laws etc.

He gets multiple famous republican lawmakers and commentators to support a bill that will arm children down to the age of 4 in schools.

And to them it's probably not even funny.

[McLewis]

I found it hilarious honestly, but yeah Trump supporters are already wound up about it.

[Myesyats]

Police in the US city of Chicago have asked for more help to combat gun violence after more than 60 people were shot over the weekend.

At least 10 people were killed. (BBC)



This is unreal to me as an European

[Nishankly]

Its unreal to all of us, including Americans as well.

[Guest]

Multiple killed at a mass Shooting at a Madden tournament in Florida.

Video is rough...I wont post it.

[RealGunner]

Blame has already started shifting on....video games.

Not on guns. But video games.

[Unique]

Blame has already started shifting on....video games.

Not on guns. But video games.

who on earth is blaming video games.

[Freeza]

Blame has already started shifting on....video games.

Not on guns. But video games.

who on earth is blaming video games.

NRA, Fox News, and other right wing blogs. They obviously don’t think this. They’re just being sponsored by Gun makers etc. Have to protect their corrupt livelihood at the expense of the innocent.

[Casciavit]

Wonder what excuses stupid rednecks will have now.

[Unique]

Blame has already started shifting on....video games.

Not on guns. But video games.

who on earth is blaming video games.

NRA, Fox News, and other right wing blogs. They obviously don’t think this. They’re just being sponsored by Gun makers etc. Have to protect their corrupt livelihood at the expense of the innocent.

seems like a lot of people are doing that these days tbh.

[Unique]

Wonder what excuses stupid rednecks will have now.

they will probs say not all gun owners do this kind of thing. they will say you cant paint everyone with the same brush. they will say dont persecute all gun owners because a few of them do this kind of stuff. they will say its nothing to do with owning guns its how they have grown up with the parents they have. pretty much the same stuff people say to me in other threads.

[VivaStPauli]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

[Unique]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

[Freeza]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

More like blame steroids and superpowers since that sounds like an impossible feat for a human. Gun can efficiently kill a bunch of people, and there's hardly any restrictions for them in the US, unlike most other civilised countries.

Part of blaming the man is limiting those kind of people's access to weapons. Which is the whole point of gun control. This whole "people kill people" not guns is such a weird argument, since gun control is about stopping mentally unfit people to get guns.

[VivaStPauli]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

That would be infinitely harder to do than shooting ten people. I'm just saying it's easier to restrict gun use than cure insanity.

[Unique]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

More like blame steroids and superpowers since that sounds like an impossible feat for a human. Gun can efficiently kill a bunch of people, and there's hardly any restrictions for them in the US, unlike most other civilised countries.

Part of blaming the man is limiting those kind of people's access to weapons. Which is the whole point of gun control. This whole "people kill people" not guns is such a weird argument, since gun control is about stopping mentally unfit people to get guns.

but in another thread you are telling me im wrong for saying we should stop the refugees for the crimes that we have seen because not all of them are comiting these crimes and in this thread you are saying ban the guns when clearly not all gun owners go out shooting people. you cant have it both ways.

[Unique]

I don't think it's something inherent to the gun owners. They just shouldn't have guns.

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

That would be infinitely harder to do than shooting ten people. I'm just saying it's easier to restrict gun use than cure insanity.

yet when i said we should restrict refugees to stop the crimes because its easier than trying to stop them you said thats not the way to go.

[Freeza]

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

More like blame steroids and superpowers since that sounds like an impossible feat for a human. Gun can efficiently kill a bunch of people, and there's hardly any restrictions for them in the US, unlike most other civilised countries.

Part of blaming the man is limiting those kind of people's access to weapons. Which is the whole point of gun control. This whole "people kill people" not guns is such a weird argument, since gun control is about stopping mentally unfit people to get guns.

but in another thread you are telling me im wrong for saying we should stop the refugees for the crimes that we have seen because not all of them are comiting these crimes and in this thread you are saying ban the guns when clearly not all gun owners go out shooting people. you cant have it both ways.

This doesn't make sense at all.

1. Gun control doesn't ban guns. It makes them harder to get, so if you really want one, you have to work for it.

2. I never stated that refugees weren't a problem. I disagreed with your notions it was because of their religion, and not because they come from war torn nations, that we've had a huge hand in creating. And we have a moral obligation to help them because we're at fault for their situation.
This should be done with more strict integration, which has been shown to help. Often times there's not a lot for them to do when coming to our countries, which leads to their bad behaviour.

[VivaStPauli]

things like this are very sad. but again people blame the guns and not the man. if this guy took 10 people to the top of a big building and pushed them off would people blame it on gravity.

That would be infinitely harder to do than shooting ten people. I'm just saying it's easier to restrict gun use than cure insanity.

yet when i said we should restrict refugees to stop the crimes because its easier than trying to stop them you said thats not the way to go.

I don't want to drown all gun-owners in the Mediterranean Sea, I want them to not have guns.

Your equivalencies are bad, and you should feel bad.

[Unique]

That would be infinitely harder to do than shooting ten people. I'm just saying it's easier to restrict gun use than cure insanity.

yet when i said we should restrict refugees to stop the crimes because its easier than trying to stop them you said thats not the way to go.

I don't want to drown all gun-owners in the Mediterranean Sea, I want them to not have guns.

Your equivalencies are bad, and you should feel bad.

ah. and there is another subtle way of calling me a nazi when i give you an example of your hypocricy.

[Freeza]

yet when i said we should restrict refugees to stop the crimes because its easier than trying to stop them you said thats not the way to go.

I don't want to drown all gun-owners in the Mediterranean Sea, I want them to not have guns.

Your equivalencies are bad, and you should feel bad.

ah. and there is another subtle way of calling me a nazi when i give you an example of your hypocricy.

[Unique]

More like blame steroids and superpowers since that sounds like an impossible feat for a human. Gun can efficiently kill a bunch of people, and there's hardly any restrictions for them in the US, unlike most other civilised countries.

Part of blaming the man is limiting those kind of people's access to weapons. Which is the whole point of gun control. This whole "people kill people" not guns is such a weird argument, since gun control is about stopping mentally unfit people to get guns.

but in another thread you are telling me im wrong for saying we should stop the refugees for the crimes that we have seen because not all of them are comiting these crimes and in this thread you are saying ban the guns when clearly not all gun owners go out shooting people. you cant have it both ways.

This doesn't make sense at all.

1. Gun control doesn't ban guns. It makes them harder to get, so if you really want one, you have to work for it.

2. I never stated that refugees weren't a problem. I disagreed with your notions it was because of their religion, and not because they come from war torn nations, that we've had a huge hand in creating. And we have a moral obligation to help them because we're at fault for their situation.
This should be done with more strict integration, which has been shown to help. Often times there's not a lot for them to do when coming to our countries, which leads to their bad behaviour.

it does make sense. we have lots of refugees coming into europe and we have seen a big rise in crime from them. i want to stop the refugees coming into europe to stop the crimes and you called me a racist nazi. then we have a lots of gun owners around the world and we see these shootings and you want to stop the guns. i blamed it on a religion that brain washes people who follow a holy book that tells them that under certain circumstances these crimes are ok. and you are blaming it on a piece of metal.

[Unique]

I don't want to drown all gun-owners in the Mediterranean Sea, I want them to not have guns.

Your equivalencies are bad, and you should feel bad.

ah. and there is another subtle way of calling me a nazi when i give you an example of your hypocricy.

well me saying i want to stop the refugees coming into europe is not the same as drowning them in Mediterranean Sea is it.

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