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Post by shinigami99 Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:03

Sad

Let's not talk about referees

We deserved to lose today. Our play was in so much disarray and we had not motivation. Roberto should not be deployed in a game like this. Mascherano should not be in the midfield(we played much better when he was moved to CB, Puyol had a shocker of a game tbh).

Thiago was the best player on the pitch for us, Cesc was pretty good when he came on as well. Messi needs rest, and I hope he himself realizes this as well. A Messi who gets at least a little bit of rest is 100x better than a Messi who has played almost every game for Barca since the new year. His dribbles are not working, though his passes are still okay. We lose alot of what makes messi, messi.

If there was any player who was worse than Puyol today, it was Pedro, he has lost almost all his sharpness in attack and has never really recovered from his injury.

Sanchez was pretty bad except for the goal.

I could have shorten everything above and just say that everyone was bad bar Thiago.

CL and Copa would make me satisfied right now. I really wanted to at least NOT give a Pasillo to Madrid in the Nou, but even that dream is slowly slipping away Sad
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Post by bazinga Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:05

It's TERRIBLE inconsistency, that's all. The team seems unable to sustain the same motivation day in and day out. Could it be lack of competition for a starting spot?
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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:08

People we are toothless right now! THe only guy who scored for us in consistent basis is exhausted. Vila out, Pedro not back to his form, and Alexis is constantly getting injured so he has no consistency. No wonder the best attackers (wingers) we have right now are B team players :facepalm:
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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:10

The team just isnt as motivated as it was before, I feel harsh blaming them for that either to be honest.

The league is such a test of the mind, especially La Liga. Because its not about quality and how much of it you can muster, its about putting your hard hat on and going on the grind every day and having the stomach for it.

We just dont have that quite like he did before. Its okay, I cant be that angry, of course im dissapointed but they have given us so much what can I say?

I hope the hunger for CL glory two years in a row remains, thats something for us to do which can transend our status. Winning the league in a row wont improve our all time status (as much I still want it) but back to back CL's will do that.

I had hoped that Mourinho and his mouth would motivate us enough to take this title again, but I guess all that was used up last year and is only rekindled when we play them again (which I guess is why we turn it on so much against them).

Not much of a rage post, my anger has already left me to be honest.

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Post by harhar11 Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:11

if we win every game now to the end(very unlikely) we wont have to do the pasillo..

Oh and wth was up with the line-up? ffs



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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:13

The Franchise wrote:The team just isnt as motivated as it was before, I feel harsh blaming them for that either to be honest.

The league is such a test of the mind, especially La Liga. Because its not about quality and how much of it you can muster, its about putting your hard hat on and going on the grind every day and having the stomach for it.

We just dont have that quite like he did before. Its okay, I cant be that angry, of course im dissapointed but they have given us so much what can I say?

I hope the hunger for CL glory two years in a row remains, thats something for us to do which can transend our status. Winning the league in a row wont improve our all time status (as much I still want it) but back to back CL's will do that.

I had hoped that Mourinho and his mouth would motivate us enough to take this title again, but I guess all that was used up last year and is only rekindled when we play them again (which I guess is why we turn it on so much against them).

Not much of a rage post, my anger has already left me to be honest.


Honest question here, would you be happier if Madrid wrapped up the league early so you could rest players for the UCL considering your squad depth?

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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:13

eelir wrote:People we are toothless right now! THe only guy who scored for us in consistent basis is exhausted. Vila out, Pedro not back to his form, and Alexis is constantly getting injured so he has no consistency. No wonder the best attackers (wingers) we have right now are B team players :facepalm:

We scored two goals, dont over do it.

There is no point blaming one area of the pitch. Our toothlessness in front of goal didnt force Pique to allow his man to run in, nor did it force Valdes to do a poor kick out.
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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:16

No Crimson I wouldnt.

I respect the league to much for that and think untill its mathmatically over, we should try for it.

The players are conditioned to playing 3 games a week, dropping out of La Liga would ruin our chances more than help them.

I think Messi should be rested from time to time, but I felt that before we dropped this far behind..I felt that in 09 lol

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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:16

We would be fools to consider we can win the league and we should already start resting players. Actually, i think Pep is already doing that.

HINT: This last game, no Xavi, no Iniesta, no Cesc
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:17

The Franchise wrote:No Crimson I wouldnt.

I respect the league to much for that and think untill its mathmatically over, we should try for it.

The players are conditioned to playing 3 games a week, dropping out of La Liga would ruin our chances more than help them.

I think Messi should be rested from time to time, but I felt that before we dropped this far behind..I felt that in 09 lol


Fair enough, I do agree though Messi does look like he needs a good rest

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:17

eelir wrote:We would be fools to consider we can win the league and we should already start resting players. Actually, i think Pep is already doing that.

HINT: This last game, no Xavi, no Iniesta, no Cesc

well you have a UCL game away in Germany in 3 days so really can't play a full strength squad

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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:19

Yes, but i do not think Pep likes benching both Xavi and Iniesta, especially when we miss Bussi right now.

I would actually bench Messi as well for this game.

EDIT: It depends on RM game tomorrow. But my gut feeling is you will win it without any problem, and that is more than enough for me to just play to avoid Guard of Honor.


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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:19

Xavi has a slightly injury and is 32, Iniesta has been injured and Cesc has been playing crap and should of took a break 4 games ago.

Pep isnt resting players because he has given up lol

Look how he reacted to the goals that Osasuna scored.
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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:22

You are right, but i think he should now. Look at our squad man. 1 tired striker, 1 striker off and on from injuries (Alexis) and 2 kids from B team. WTF are we looking for in la liga? It is over.
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:23

Anyways all credit to Osasuna they broke Jose's home record and beat Barcelona. For some reason though they don't do it week in and week out.

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Post by guest7 Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:26

Crimson, Gijon were the ones who broke Mou's home record

But Osasuna won over us last year too Very Happy
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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:27

Take them out of La Liga game and they will play what, once every 2 weeks? How is that going to help us in anyway?

They play every 3 days, taking them from that to once every two weeks is not only silly, its dangerous.

They wont be used to the intensity of the games, they wont be physically fit..its just not going to happen.

Nobody wants them run into the ground, but you have to understand how physical preperation works.
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Post by the xcx Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:27

I remember I made statements of how new players are neccessary temp. for barcelona, but instead Pep decided to go with youth players..Bad choice of action, and know barcelona suffers from it.
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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:27

I fail to see since when did this become a RM topic and RM section :facepalm:
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Post by eelir Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:30

The Franchise wrote:Take them out of La Liga game and they will play what, once every 2 weeks? How is that going to help us in anyway?

They play every 3 days, taking them from that to once every two weeks is not only silly, its dangerous.

They wont be used to the intensity of the games, they wont be physically fit..its just not going to happen.

Nobody wants them run into the ground, but you have to understand how physical preperation works.

Maybe you misunderstood me. I am not saying taking the complete first team of, but doing some heavy rotations. At least 2 starters should take a brake each game. that way everyone is rested, but also in game.
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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:30

The xcx wrote:I remember I made statements of how new players are neccessary temp. for barcelona, but instead Pep decided to go with youth players..Bad choice of action, and know barcelona suffers from it.

So Sanchez and Cesc were promoted from the B team?

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:31

Se7en wrote:Crimson, Gijon were the ones who broke Mou's home record

But Osasuna won over us last year too Very Happy

ahh thats right either way they are giant killers!

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Post by The Franchise Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:32

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The Franchise wrote:Take them out of La Liga game and they will play what, once every 2 weeks? How is that going to help us in anyway?

They play every 3 days, taking them from that to once every two weeks is not only silly, its dangerous.

They wont be used to the intensity of the games, they wont be physically fit..its just not going to happen.

Nobody wants them run into the ground, but you have to understand how physical preperation works.

Maybe you misunderstood me. I am not saying taking the complete first team of, but doing some heavy rotations. At least 2 starters should take a brake each game. that way everyone is rested, but also in game.

I think we rotate a fair amount as it is, the only time we dont is when we have 14 players left..like recently.

Xavi didnt play today,didnt play last week.

Puyol and Mascherano share minutes.

Dani Alves clearly isnt ever tired.

Sanchez and Pedro have been in and out of the team, they arent going to be tired.

The only one is Messi isnt it?
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Post by CBarca Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:33

Osasuna and their damn fortress...

Almost always hard at home, they are.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat 11 Feb 2012, 22:33

Very disillusioned right now. We did play like shit. Nothing really to add, I think we can still win la liga, but right now I'm putting most of my hope on the CL...
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