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Post by Firenze Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:51 pm

not too many details out there atm.

A shooter killed as many as 10 people and wounded 20 others at the Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, on Thursday morning.

The shooter, a 20-year-old male, was killed in a shoot out with police. None of the identities of those involved have been released by authorities. It is believed only one shooter was involved in the incident.

The shooting happened in a classroom, according to Ray Schoufler, the Douglas County Fire Marshal. The Douglas County Sheriff's Office received the 911 call at 10:38 a.m., local time.

Kortney Moore, a student at the college, told NRToday the shooter asked people in the classrom their religion before he shot them.

shooter apparently posted about planning on doing this on popular internet message board 4chan yesterday


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Post by Firenze Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:52 pm

Oregon law does not require permit to purchase, registration of firearms, or licensing of owners. Oregon received a D+ for its gun laws on most recent state scorecard by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

that just seems insane to me
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Post by Freeza Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:54 pm

@Firenze wrote:Oregon law does not require permit to purchase, registration of firearms, or licensing of owners. Oregon received a D+ for its gun laws on most recent state scorecard by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

that just seems insane to me


inb4 guns don't kill people, ppl kill ppl
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Post by Kaladin Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:13 pm

Its sad that i just saw 'US Campus' and immediately thought it was a shooting. My condolences to all the deceased and their families.

I'm curious as to what could be the solution to this? How can they eliminate (or greatly reduce, if you want) the number of these incidents? Total ban on guns? Even so how would they go about retrieving firearms from every person who owns it? (I imagine some ppl will retaliate)
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 pm

Honestly business as usual in the US.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:25 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Firenze wrote:Oregon law does not require permit to purchase, registration of firearms, or licensing of owners. Oregon received a D+ for its gun laws on most recent state scorecard by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

that just seems insane to me


inb4 guns don't kill people, ppl kill ppl


FFS.

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Post by Firenze Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:02 am

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Post by Firenze Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:16 am

Obama Molenation

he's tired of this booshit
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Post by Kick Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:20 am

Rest in peace to those who lost their lives.

It is such a shame that these keep happening in the US.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:20 am

Hope they at least stop socially awkward plebs getting hold of lethal weapons by the time I finally decide to move to Murica.
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Post by El Gunner Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:25 am

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:Hope they at least stop socially awkward plebs getting hold of lethal weapons by the time I finally decide to move to Murica.

+1
I will probably immigrate as a socially awkward pleb though
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:55 am

Can see the news 20 years from now


The suspect, known by his online alias 'el GUNNER' arrived - probably illegally - from overseas.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:01 am

RIP

Here's the 4chan thread

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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:32 am

And now someone will, again, tell the world how this wouldn't have happened if everyone on Campus had been armed...
Incredibly sad.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:07 am

Just Darwin's theory cementing itself.

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Post by El Gunner Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:38 am

@VivaStPauli wrote:And now someone will, again, tell the world how this wouldn't have happened if everyone on Campus had been armed...
Incredibly sad.

wait wut? This has been said before Laughing
smh, might as well hand each and evry single one of us on this planet AK-47s and let humanity bow out in style.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:35 pm

linetty wrote:Just Darwin's theory cementing itself.


what?
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Post by DuringTheWar Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:15 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Its sad that i just saw 'US Campus' and immediately thought it was a shooting. My condolences to all the deceased and their families.

I'm curious as to what could be the solution to this? How can they eliminate (or greatly reduce, if you want) the number of these incidents? Total ban on guns? Even so how would they go about retrieving firearms from every person who owns it? (I imagine some ppl will retaliate)


We can start by trying to identify all the variables that are constant in all these cases. There might not be a singular cause, but isolating one factor and nullifying it might help.

Obviously thats been attempted with proposals of gun control, and the Americans reacted by buying more guns than ever.

But you know, America hasn't always had this problem, while they have always had guns, so id guess there is other stuff going on.

Maybe mind altering drugs (legal prescribed ones as well as illegal) is something we need to talk about, but there is as much resistance to that as there is to banning guns.
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Post by Grande_Milano Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:37 pm

@VivaStPauli wrote:And now someone will, again, tell the world how this wouldn't have happened if everyone on Campus had been armed...
Incredibly sad.


its usually gun free zones, where these tragedies happen
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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:41 pm

And it's usually the War Zones, where everyone is equipped with a gun...
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Post by Grande_Milano Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:42 pm

ok ok people tell me ur arguments against guns being sold
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:00 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
linetty wrote:Just Darwin's theory cementing itself.


what?
A people that constantly suffer from the same issue, identify it, refuse to do anything about it and expect different results in the future. Definition of insanity. There's certainly some element of darwinism happening here on a societal level.

I wonder if there are any schools/universities in the US that do 'mass shooting drills'? Seems to be more dangerous than nukes and fires, and they do/used to do drills for those.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:02 pm

Yeah all school campuses from my knowledge are gun free zones which I think is one of the main reasons these perps choose schools to do mass shootings at. Less chance of people shooting back.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:02 pm

@Grande_Milano wrote:ok ok people tell me ur arguments against guns being sold


It's not guns, it's assault weapons. Do you really need a weapon capable of killing 30 people in 90 seconds to go hunting? For anything at all? Keep your guns, but these things belong in a war theater, not in a civilized country. Australia should be looked at as an example.
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Post by DuringTheWar Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:51 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Grande_Milano wrote:ok ok people tell me ur arguments against guns being sold


It's not guns, it's assault weapons. Do you really need a weapon capable of killing 30 people in 90 seconds to go hunting? For anything at all? Keep your guns, but these things belong in a war theater, not in a civilized country. Australia should be looked at as an example.


I think because most of them own guns in anticipation of a civil war type scenario, it does actually matter to them a lot how deadly the weaponry is.
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