Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

by 6unner Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:32 pm

We won't know anything until after our official kit release.

This is the slowest transfer window ever. We are not even being linked to half of what would be considered normal.

by MJ Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:54 pm

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was just about to post that. love the look on his face even if it means nothing. happy to see him happy.

by Raptorgunner Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:05 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:If Barcelona get big enough an offer i think they would sell. Di Marzio mentioned how interested by Cuadrado they are, i assume they would just go that direction to replace him + the CF they seem to covet some much.

Is Sami Khedira available you think? how much would cost?

We need a player like Khedira or Gustavo.

Sanchez, Remy and Khedira or Gustavo would make us a EPL contender imo.

Buy list.
1.Sanchez
2.Remy
3.Khedira
4.Debuchy EPL experience.
5. GK?

by RealGunner Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:16 pm

6unner wrote:We won't know anything until after our official kit release.

This is the slowest transfer window ever. We are not even being linked to half of what would be considered normal.

I see that as a good thing. Personally I am enjoying the WC and I really am not too bothered about the transfers.

After the WC finishes, we will be here every day moaning about the transfers or the lack of anyways Laughing

by EL Patron Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:If Barcelona get big enough an offer i think they would sell. Di Marzio mentioned how interested by Cuadrado they are, i assume they would just go that direction to replace him + the CF they seem to covet some much.

Is Sami Khedira available you think? how much would cost?

We need a player like Khedira or Gustavo.

Sanchez, Remy and Khedira or Gustavo would make us a EPL contender imo.

Buy list.
1.Sanchez
2.Remy
3.Khedira
4.Debuchy EPL experience.
5. GK?

Khedira is average, he is too cumbersome and rubbish on the ball. He hasn't even got a defined role, he is not a defensive mid or a box to box mid. He doesn't excel at anything, he is like the German version of Song but more fast Laughing

Gustavo would be a good signing but i think his wage demands are whats putting Arsene off. He is on decent money at Wolfsburg

by Arsenalfaithfull Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:23 pm

We need a modern player in the mold of Petit to complement Ramsey and Ozil imo. Are there any players like that out there?

by Raptorgunner Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:24 pm

When will the puma kit get unveiled? after World cup?

I dont even care about transfers much now just want to see our new kits. Mad

by EL Patron Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:35 pm

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:We need a modern player in the mold of Petit to complement Ramsey and Ozil imo. Are there any players like that out there?

I agree but they are all too expensive, Witsel for example would be good a fit but he'd cost a fortune. There are raw talents like the Bender twins who can be nurtured into that role. I don't think Arsene is the type of guy to splash big on a defensive mid.

by urbaNRoots Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:42 pm

Wenger will not spend on a DM at all, I'm very sure of that, not this summer atleast unless there's something in these Arteta rumours which I find unlikely.

Flamini wasn't signed for 3 years for nothing. He's the DM we all wanted, atleast in Wenger's eyes.

by EL Patron Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:46 pm

Why did he sign Flamini for 3 years Laughing

Arsene

by Jay29 Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:55 pm

Basically every half-decent DM we could get is going to cost a lot. Gustavo apparently has a €35mil release clause. Lars Bender is commanding fees of £20mil upward. Schneiderlin won't be sold cheaply by Southampton.

And it's not like these guys have just become available this summer, either. Wenger's passed them up before and went with the cheap option in Flamini. It, unfortunately, doesn't seem like a position he wants to spend much on.

by Arsenalfaithfull Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:00 pm

I think Flamini did a decent job. I dono what you guys are talking about. The impact of a high energy Flamini against teams that use to bully us in the middle, often goes un noticed. If anything, Arteta was the one who failed to continue his form from the previous season.

by EL Patron Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:09 pm

I agree that he did a decent job but giving him such a large contract basically ended our chances of getting a better Defensive midfielder.

by Arsenalfaithfull Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:20 pm

EL Patron wrote:I agree that he did a decent job but giving him such a large contract basically ended our chances of getting a better Defensive midfielder.

I think Wenger will buy a DM who can play the role currently help by Arteta. Flamini is clearly not that player Laughing

Now the question of whether he spends big is something which is a topic on its own.

by Hapless_Hans Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:40 pm

Jay, do you have a source on the Gustavo 35m € clause?

by Jay29 Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:52 pm

It's something I saw on Twitter, so it's likely wrong.

by Mr Nick09 Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:32 am

khedira is a great player if you put him in a team that hides his weakness, and where he can do what he does best in peace. It's always been the difference between madrid and germany.

In madrid, he has mostly been in a situation where he had lots of responsibility on the ball because of the people around him. In germany, he has 4-5 playmakers around him so all he has to go is to run and cover space.

I think he will work fine for you because you are closer in design to what germany do.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:23 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:It's something I saw on Twitter, so it's likely wrong.

Obviously I do not really know either, but I remember reading something about 25m€ last year.

by 6unner Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:24 am

Raptorgunner wrote:When will the puma kit get unveiled? after World cup?

I dont even care about transfers much now just want to see our new kits.

July 10th or so.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:29 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:khedira is a great player if you put him in a team that hides his weakness, and where he can do what he does best in peace. It's always been the difference between madrid and germany.

In madrid, he has mostly been in a situation where he had lots of responsibility on the ball because of the people around him. In germany, he has 4-5 playmakers around him so all he has to go is to run and cover space.

I think he will work fine for you because you are closer in design to what germany do.

Absolutely true.
But I thought Ancelotti rates him too, and I read something like they won't sell him?
Khedira is a good player to have in a team, don't really know why people expect players to be able to do everything, else they're 'scrubs'.
It seems to me that every Real player that isn't a megastar by name is being labeled as for sale by the media every year, Khedira for years, even Di Maria and Benzema in earlier seasons.
Ancelotti knows better than that of course.

by sportsczy Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:57 am

Di Maria and Benzema went through periods where they were underachieving... that was the criticism for those guys. Khedira doesn't underachieve... he overachieves. The issue that Madrid fans have with him is that he's below average technically. You can get away with it in less technical leagues, but not La Liga.

And as far as Germany... you guys haven't faced a NT with a top quality midfield yet this WC. That's where Khedira really struggles. He gets overmatched.

by Hapless_Hans Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:09 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:It's something I saw on Twitter, so it's likely wrong.

Obviously I do not really know either, but I remember reading something about 25m€ last year.

Ok, so Jay you're information was indeed more up to date.

Here's the relevant sources:

Last November kicker first reported that Gustavo has a release clause http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/595747/artikel_luiz-gustavo_vertrag-mit-hintertuerchen.html#omsearchresult

BILD then refered to that report and claimed to know that the amount is 25m € http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/luiz-gustavo/fuer-25-mio-kann-er-wechseln-33588020.bild.html

Yesterday now kicker had an short item in their transfer blog that they learned it is 35m € instead of the formerly reported 25m http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/wechselboerse/2014-15/transfermarkt.html#

I'd basically always trust kicker more than BILD (or any other publication), even though release clause amounts still are volatile information.

btw, last week 'Wolfsburger Allgemeine Zeitung' reported that his clause (without giving an amount) is only active until end of July.
http://www.waz-online.de/Wolfsburg/WAZ-Sport/VfL-Wolfsburg/Gustavo-Klausel-nur-bis-Ende-Juli

by Chumlum Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:04 pm

I know it's extremely, exceedingly, horribly unlikely, but I think that William Carvalho would be a great addition/investment to the squad, and the DM role. Big, strong, good passer, good destroyer, can play center-back.

If someone like Khedira or Witsel or even Vidal (!) were to come (just hypothetically speaking), we'd have another good/great central midfielder on the books, yes, but by September a bunch of us would still be wondering where that top, "natural" DM is ...

by MJ Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:18 pm

Arsenal reportedly open talks with Porto over Jackson Martinez.

Club "confident" of negotiating below £35m release clause, hoping for £20m.

60 goals in 91 apps.

http://vivafootballcalcio.com/arsenal-open-talks-jackson-martinez/

by Jay29 Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:29 pm

It's Porto: it'll be £35mil or nothing.

by RealGunner Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:32 pm

Ugh Martinez

guess beggars can't be choosers

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