Wenger: Mata deal unfair

It's sad how many people are desperate to take his words out of context just so they can hate.

Yes, but the same rules apply. If Tottenham magically bought Rooney tomorrow, Chelsea have to play them and you guys don't.

But I'm pretty sure Mourinhio's not going to say "Well this all just very unfair."

I like Wenger, among Fergie, Mou, Rafa and these he has always been by far the most reasonable to me. I don't want to make this bigger than it is, but at the very least you have to admit comments like this are pretty annoying.

Just play the game.

He has memory problems. Needs to retire.

Wenger really didn't need to talk about it though and even if he really had the need to (which he did), we are talking about Wenger here, the man is intelligent and articulate for days.

Like I wrote, he has a point. The Jan window can be unfair only if you consider it on a moral basis. Since money and morality have no business dealing with each other, his point pretty much becomes moot.

I would admit though, my boy Izzy is angrier than usual. Probably watching Benzema "highlights" again...

BarrileteCosmico wrote:In any case this is yet another issue solved by having a winter break

Or at least it makes it more unlikely.

Lol wat, how does that effect this in anyway what so ever?

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:In any case this is yet another issue solved by having a winter break

Or at least it makes it more unlikely.

Lol wat, how does that effect this in anyway what so ever?

By introducing a period without games it makes it less likely that teams will see each other before the FIFA approved period for winter transfers is over.

In his interviews wenger has always been willing to offer his thoughts on any subjects, and he could talk about a 1001 football related things, in that sense he's more open than most managers. I think that that is to his credit as it actually makes him interesting to listen to, but sadly it has always provided people ammunition to use against him. For whatever reason they feel inclined to do so...

The Franchise wrote:Some people have just, utterly, terrible logic.

Comparing this transfer to RVP and co....you do realise who played were the ones that forced the move despite Arsenal relying on them heavily?

Blue Barrett wrote:Mourinho had said several times this season that he'd like Mata to stay. Yesterday Mata told Mourinho at Cobham(according to credible sources) that he would like to leave.

Mata is getting tossed because he is no longer needed.

Also because he asked to leave.

The only thing he said was unfair was that a team were able to sell a player to a direct rival knowing that he cant damage them first and hand and may well help them by taking points from rivals. What's wrong was that? Is that not in fact true? Would it not be "more fair" if the transfer happened before some teams have played each other twice?

I'm pretty certain that we'd be able to beat a United side even with Mata and I know Jose feels the same way. I'm also pretty certain that selling to United in a weakened state than they've been in over 20 years because they won't be as strong a threat as they used to be is a far bigger reason than that flimsy "schedule" excuse.

Would you think that we'd sell to City, for example, even if we've played them twice already this season? Like I said, that's a very stupid excuse and its being put out there just in case Arsenal lose/draw to United and it proves to be the title decider.

People whining and crying about Wenger apparently crying when actually, he said nothing controversial or whiny at all.

Yeah let's act like its not controversial to criticize the transfer dealings of your rivals.

Life is unfair... Wenger just needs a hug. Someone needs to run over and give him one.

Arsenal fans defending Wenger.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:In any case this is yet another issue solved by having a winter break

Or at least it makes it more unlikely.

Lol wat, how does that effect this in anyway what so ever?

By introducing a period without games it makes it less likely that teams will see each other before the FIFA approved period for winter transfers is over.

They are going to see each other anyway so it makes little difference tbh.

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Arsenal fans defending Wenger.

what?

Le Samourai wrote:Yes, but the same rules apply. If Tottenham magically bought Rooney tomorrow, Chelsea have to play them and you guys don't.

But I'm pretty sure Mourinhio's not going to say "Well this all just very unfair."

I like Wenger, among Fergie, Mou, Rafa and these he has always been by far the most reasonable to me. I don't want to make this bigger than it is, but at the very least you have to admit comments like this are pretty annoying.

Just play the game.

The man cried about there being too many ex-Liverpool players on MOTD for Christ's sake

Blue Barrett wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Some people have just, utterly, terrible logic.

Comparing this transfer to RVP and co....you do realise who played were the ones that forced the move despite Arsenal relying on them heavily?

Blue Barrett wrote:Mourinho had said several times this season that he'd like Mata to stay. Yesterday Mata told Mourinho at Cobham(according to credible sources) that he would like to leave.

Mata is getting tossed because he is no longer needed.

Also because he asked to leave.

Still yet to see your credible sources in regards to that. You just made it up, didn't you.

Wenger is well known to whine when things don't go his way... just the way he is. So this is nothing surprising. It's not a big deal. Mou whines even more when things don't go his way. It's a common trait amongst most managers to whine.

Ok, Mata is asking to leave...because its that or play cup games against Yeovil Utd....ffs, how is that even close to what happened with Wenger and his players at Arsenal?

Wenger wasnt even criticising the rivals, he was criticising the rules. He has been against the Jan window forever and this was just another excuse for him to voice his displeasure with it.

Lex wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Some people have just, utterly, terrible logic.

Comparing this transfer to RVP and co....you do realise who played were the ones that forced the move despite Arsenal relying on them heavily?

Blue Barrett wrote:Mourinho had said several times this season that he'd like Mata to stay. Yesterday Mata told Mourinho at Cobham(according to credible sources) that he would like to leave.

Mata is getting tossed because he is no longer needed.

Also because he asked to leave.

Still yet to see your credible sources in regards to that. You just made it up, didn't you.

I was on the radio all day yesterday and following updates on twitter as well. Apart from what I mentioned earlier, it was also on The Times:

The Spaniard told José Mourinho this morning that he wanted to leave Chelsea and was therefore excused training at the London club’s base in Cobham, Surrey, as United’s attempts to bring him to Old Trafford gathered pace."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/football/article3982919.ece


If you need more info you can google it. Couldn't be bothered to start looking for every single tweet/article/radio interview I saw on it.

Why would I make that up?

The Franchise wrote:Ok, Mata is asking to leave...because its that or play cup games against Yeovil Utd....ffs, how is that even close to what happened with Wenger and his players at Arsenal?

Wenger wasnt even criticising the rivals, he was criticising the rules. He has been against the Jan window forever and this was just another excuse for him to voice his displeasure with it.

Well he participates too... he got Nacho Monreal in Jan last year. Seem to remember he brought in Thierry Henry for brief stint a couple of years ago when RVP was injured. He was pushing hard for Podolski... but when that failed, he got Henry on loan.

Also made a hard push for Benzema last winter; but Mou wouldn't let him go.

Winter mercato is no different than the summer mercato for me. Every sport allow for interseasonal trading. In fact, footy is the most regulated in terms of having these very limited windows. Just deal with it lol.

So for him to prove his opinion true, he would have to not use the window? Makes no sense.

Of course he participates, wtf?

Is he supposed to go on strike and put his club at a massive disadvantage because he disagrees with a rule?

So you criticize the rules about something being unfair but you partake in it.


That's not hypocritical at all.

If I hate Real Madrid on fifa14 because they are over powered, it doesn't mean I will boycott from using them. It just means that when they are not as overpowered then it will be equal for all and I will be more happy than before

Blue Barrett wrote:So you criticize the rules about something being unfair but you partake in it.


That's not hypocritical at all.

No, it isn't.

Blue Barrett wrote:So you criticize the rules about something being unfair but you partake in it.


That's not hypocritical at all.

He kind of has to as long as everyone else is, so that doesn't really make much sense. Like it has been said, everyone plays by the same rules, but everyone has a different schedules, and the timing of the window can make unbalanced situations. He isn't blaming chelsea, he's just expressing his displeasure with the window because it can create odd scenarios. he's not hatin' the playa he's hatin' the game.

The Franchise wrote:So for him to prove his opinion true, he would have to not use the window? Makes no sense.

You lead by example. Do all your business in the summer mercato and ignore the winter one.

This is like saying that killing animals for their fur is a terrible thing and then buying a fur coat. You might not be as warm or fashionable without the fur... but at least you don't sound like a hypocrite.

Saying something is wrong and participating is wasting everyone's time imo.

I believe the high petrol prices are wrong, but I still fill up my bike