Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V2

RedOranje wrote:

B-Mac wrote:

RedOranje wrote:Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.

oh my bad, Charlton youth! not important anyways lol

still don't change that I don't rate him lol

Of course you don't, because he has ties to Liverpool (as your misinformed comments on his origin show).

Bullshit mate. If it's like that I shouldn't rate any United player. If any Liverpool fan didn't rate Morrison or Pogba was it because of the team they used to play at ?

It's true for example when Lex doesn't rate Bale (He'll start rating him soon ) , but for example, the fact that I don't rate Cleverly isn't at all because he plays for United. He could play for us and I wouldn't rate him.

Shelvey is ok.... for Swansea.

RedOranje wrote:

B-Mac wrote:

RedOranje wrote:Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.

oh my bad, Charlton youth! not important anyways lol

still don't change that I don't rate him lol

Of course you don't, because he has ties to Liverpool (as your misinformed comments on his origin show).

no my comments were because I thought the only reason Liverpool fans rated him was he was a Liverpool youth product, but now I know he's not, big deal, I still don't rate him could care less if he's a Liverpool youth product or not, he does nothing special or wowing on the field he will be a average mid table/lower table player.

I rate plenty of Liverpool players and former players, quit your non sense cause I don't agree with your lots tinted views

Thank you for again proving my point.

jon jos a joke. Pool fans i know were ecstatic to see him leave. The very definition of ordinary.Couldnt care less if he came from Liverpool or Brazil 1970

aleumdance wrote:you guys complaining about William, what you gonna say about Keane

they were games where Roy keane just wanted to hurt Vieira, or anyone on his part

great player though

no there wasnt. They played hard but neither went out to hurt the other. You obviously werent around back then. Two great players who never never really went in high, late or whatever when challenging. Look at Haaland for when Keane sets out to hurt.

RedOranje wrote:Thank you for again proving my point.

sure, w/e helps you feel better

Shelvey is a very good player when he has such guys around him ho work hard and make themselves available for passes. Shelvey's weakness is too much self-belief, which probably comes from youth level where he has been above most other players - similar to Sterling's self-belief that he can dribble past all players in the Premiership - and immobility. He's got a very good football brain and can pick out a pass, but he needs players around him to work harder than he does.

free_cat wrote:Shelvey is ok.... for Swansea.

This

I rate Shelvey very highly, I think Liverpool will regret letting him go instead of just loaning him to Swansea.

WTF is going on in this thread?

Shelvey is a good player but he was never going to be playing for us. He's not good enough for top team. Obviously he's got potential but that potential would've rotted on our bench. Loan would've been preferable since we sold him for very cheap but I'm sure as hell not going to be crying over it.

Glad he's doing well at Swansea. And lol at people saying that Shelvey's wasn't going to be starting for Swansea  I remember Bhends and Mole saying Ki was going to be a starter

Mr Nick09 wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:forget it dude, i dont even acknowledge him

You just don't want to accept that you were wrong

wrong about what? i see him as a good striker for mid table clubs.

But he's proving you wrong atm, he's showing form a great striker for league leaders.

6 goals in 5 games and he's not even fit.

Seems oscar is becoming chelsea's main guy

B-Mac wrote:

something-red wrote:... or you haven't seen enough of him.

How many times have you honestly seen him play?

with international games, at least 30 times


don't be mad because Liverpool youth product is a scrub lol they don't all turn into Gerrard's it's ok, just like all United products don't turn into Giggs and Scholes

Who rates someone from international games ffs? Half the under 21s are wasted there, and I don't even want to hear your opinions on the English squad. lol

And the only reason I'm "mad" is because Liverpool sold him and sold him for a fee that is quite clearly a joke. To be sold for 5m, when the likes of Zaha are going for 15 (where Shelvey is much more proven, both in Europe and in the Premier League, and just as clinical in the championship) is a joke. He has a ceiling just as high if not higher. And if you read the Zaha thread, which was moved to the United section, you'd see that I actually rate Wilfried and still do...

2nd thread already?


Norwich vs Aston Villa has been pretty good in terms of action. Rest can be forgiven.

Kozak scored within a minute of his debut. Aston Villa look good going forward.

Best league in the world brah

FYI if we win today we go 2nd

Only for a couple of hours probably but still.... going 2nd for 2 hours is like a trophy

Adam Lallana is the most Underrated English Midfielder

PERIOD

I am off to RAWK

this would be good, redcafe already drooling

Absolute joke....

Rest of the team plays well enough to win.... but Debuchy decides to lose the game single handily...

People will think we are shite again now but i don't think that's the case just let down by a moron.

Drop him next week please, he can't be relied upon... let the entire team down. Worst individual performance from a RB i have seen in years Simpson was NEVER this bad.

Some upsets and drama in todays games.

MOTD should be nice

baines the freekick specialist  

lol fulham need to get relegated, if they keep jol, he is an awful manager. i hope they go on a bad run so that jol gets sacked. shouldnt be managing at the top level.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Best league in the world brah

FYI if we win today we go 2nd

Only for a couple of hours probably but still.... going 2nd for 2 hours is like a trophy

Dat jynx

Mourinho on Sky: "I think you are very good but the Chelsea manager is Jose Mourinho - not Jamie Redknapp"

man, that interview was amazing, this new way of video interveiwing is great, you can really get some good questions in. mou totally put it into rednapp