Re: Barclay's Premier League discussion '13-'14 V2

by B-Mac Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:11 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Dear god, many folks here make up their mind on players judging on a single game.

As I said, Sakho is not match fit and didn't train much this season while at PSG.

Shelvey is not mature enough as of yet and is very much raw. He is best utilized when he is given much more freedom in an advanced role. Add to that there's no one in that Swansea midfield who is defensively good enough.

nobody is rating Shelvey off one game, seen him many times, always shite

by Blue Barrett Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:13 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Gil wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:It doesnt matter how many goals sturridge score, i will never rate him.
What's there not to rate? He's already better than Benzema.

Maybe not as a footballer but he's a far better forward.
forget it dude, i dont even acknowledge him

You just don't want to accept that you were wrong Laughing

by Adit Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:14 pm

Lucas shelvy fight now

by Mr Nick09 Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:21 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
Gil wrote:What's there not to rate? He's already better than Benzema.

Maybe not as a footballer but he's a far better forward.
forget it dude, i dont even acknowledge him
You just don't want to accept that you were wrong

wrong about what? i see him as a good striker for mid table clubs.

by Adit Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:21 pm

Shelvey 3 assist and 1 goal....unbelievable game rofl

by Swanhends Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:21 pm

Michu that troll face LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Gil Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:22 pm

Brilliant by Shelvey. Excellent movement to get into a great position and a brilliant cushioned header into Michu's path.

Haters gonna hate, excellent character after a nightmare 42 minutes.

by DeletedUser#1 Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Before start of the season if you offered me 10 points from Stoke (H), Villa (A), United (H), and Swans (A) with Suarez suspended I would have bitten your hand off.

Unbeaten, top of the league and only one game away until Suarez is back and shifts the burden of creativity off Coutinho.

Team lost all balance and shape after Williams injured Cou on purpose. What a bad wool he is.

by DeletedUser#1 Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:26 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:It doesnt matter how many goals sturridge score, i will never rate him.

I am sure he is crying because of this now....

by Helmer Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:29 pm

i think when cou got injured, i realised which i couldnt he was playing a very imp role in the middle of the pitch, but let's hope that coutinho is OK.
Now a get a win against southampton and other coming games because the difficult fixture list awaits for us towards the end of this year

by Lex Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:37 pm

Shelvey was both the home and away team's best player tonight. Beat that, CR7 and Bale

by REWB Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:54 pm

LOOOOOOOOOL at the nevile-carra man utd-liverpool rivery.

by aleumdance Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:06 am

Moses had a wonderful strike

by DeletedUser#1 Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:48 am

By the way, anyone else thinks Ashley Williams is the biggest c*** playing football at the moment ?

Talked shit about Suarez in his book ( Laughing

) for no reason
Tried to kill RVP
Always looks to start a fight
Injured Coutinho on purpose tonight.

Hope he gets clattered soon and be out for a while. Bad bad wool

by Vlad the Impaler Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:18 am

Williams deserves a furious Vidic or Totti.

by Red Alert Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:38 am

Coutinho's injury was his landing Sepi. It was a stupid tackle, no arguments there, but Williams only really wanted to foul Coutinho or Cou would of been in behind the Swansea defence. Still a c*nt though, never rated the guy. Glad we didn't sign him.

Thought Shelvey did very well. He's playing in a position he hasn't played in years. He's best position is Michu's right now. This game showed his quality, he dominated us in midfield. Unfortunately for him, this game also showed his inexperience with two of his passes ending up in goals for Liverpool. The sooner he gets more football under his belt, the sooner he'll show his potential. He is very very good. Many players would of just gave up after his first half, but he went on to drive in a Swansea equaliser, and could of easily help Swansea win the game. They were all over us in the last half hour. Felt sorry for him in his post match presser, looked like the lad was going to cry. I hope the Swansea fans show him some support.

by aleumdance Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:22 am

you guys complaining about William, what you gonna say about Keane

they were games where Roy keane just wanted to hurt Vieira, or anyone on his part

great player though

by ExtremistEnigma Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:48 am

B-Mac wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Dear god, many folks here make up their mind on players judging on a single game.

As I said, Sakho is not match fit and didn't train much this season while at PSG.

Shelvey is not mature enough as of yet and is very much raw. He is best utilized when he is given much more freedom in an advanced role. Add to that there's no one in that Swansea midfield who is defensively good enough.
nobody is rating Shelvey off one game, seen him many times, always shite

..then you haven't seen him enough.

by B-Mac Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:12 am

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
B-Mac wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Dear god, many folks here make up their mind on players judging on a single game.

As I said, Sakho is not match fit and didn't train much this season while at PSG.

Shelvey is not mature enough as of yet and is very much raw. He is best utilized when he is given much more freedom in an advanced role. Add to that there's no one in that Swansea midfield who is defensively good enough.
nobody is rating Shelvey off one game, seen him many times, always shite
..then you haven't seen him enough.

or your bias...

by Red Alert Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:56 am

... or you haven't seen enough of him.

How many times have you honestly seen him play?

by B-Mac Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:03 pm

something-red wrote:... or you haven't seen enough of him.

How many times have you honestly seen him play?

with international games, at least 30 times

don't be mad because Liverpool youth product is a scrub lol they don't all turn into Gerrard's it's ok, just like all United products don't turn into Giggs and Scholes

by RedOranje Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:11 pm

Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.

by DeletedUser#1 Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:13 pm

To be fair, Shelvey at the moment, is a younger more entertaining Charlie Adam.

He could of course improve with time

by B-Mac Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:13 pm

RedOranje wrote:Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.

oh my bad, Charlton youth! not important anyways lol

still don't change that I don't rate him lol

by RedOranje Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:16 pm

B-Mac wrote:
RedOranje wrote:Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.
oh my bad, Charlton youth! not important anyways lol

still don't change that I don't rate him lol

Of course you don't, because he has ties to Liverpool (as your misinformed comments on his origin show).

by DeletedUser#1 Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:18 pm

RedOranje wrote:
B-Mac wrote:
RedOranje wrote:Shelvey isn't a Liverpool youth product, shelve your nonsensical bias.
oh my bad, Charlton youth! not important anyways lol

still don't change that I don't rate him lol
Of course you don't, because he has ties to Liverpool (as your misinformed comments on his origin show).

Bullshit mate. If it's like that I shouldn't rate any United player. If any Liverpool fan didn't rate Morrison or Pogba was it because of the team they used to play at ?

It's true for example when Lex doesn't rate Bale (He'll start rating him soon Wink

) , but for example, the fact that I don't rate Cleverly isn't at all because he plays for United. He could play for us and I wouldn't rate him.

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