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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:11 pm

V1: http://www.goallegacy.net/t32060-barclay-s-premier-league-discussion-13-14

Man Utd: De Gea; Jones, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra; Carrick, Cleverley; Valencia, Rooney, Welbeck; Van Persie.

Chelsea: Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Cole; Ramires, Lampard; De Bruyne, Oscar, Hazard; Schurrle.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:18 pm

The Ostracization of Mata begins

Chelsea's best player last season being benched for DeBruyne :facepalm:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:21 pm

Is it surprising though? Mou likes more athletic players and De Bruyne and Oscar both Mou's way of playing than Mata does.

Mou was always going to have to do something to fit this squad to his style of play.

Oscar, Mata and Hazard is too weak defensively for Mou's liking.

If they get a striker, i'll probably change my opinion on Chelsea winning the league because he's actually doing what i thought he wouldn't benching star player to fit his own needs as a manager.
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Post by Ganso Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Mou gave Mata a chance last game and he was pretty bad.I think de Bruyne should start after what he did in pre season and vs Hull
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:24 pm

Mata could slot in as an AM he wouldn't need to do THAT much defensive work with Ramires behind him

Also Oscars defensive work is underrated

#justiceformata
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Post by Helmer Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:27 pm

Oscar and hazard both start...Oscar, please save me, we have to defeat 'pardew pls go' Laughing
Schurrle starts :cheers:I must watch this game now

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:35 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Oscar and hazard both start...Oscar, please save me, we have to defeat 'pardew pls go' Laughing
Schurrle starts :cheers:I must watch this game now
I hope Oscar gets sent off :coffee:
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:38 pm

de Bruyne is a great player tbh, can't blame Mou for starting him.
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Post by vivabarca38 Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:40 pm

For this game,I think Chelsea are playing more of a (4-3-2-1) With Hazard staying behind the Striker and Shurrlle and Oscar changing positions constantly capitalising on defence-splitting passes from De Bruyne and Hazard.

As for Mata,I think he'll play a good number of games but it will mostly be in any other position other as an AM if in a 4-2-3-1.I think Mourinho likes the Attacking Midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 to drop down and act as a 3rd man in midfield to collect the ball and distribute or for defensive purposes.

Prediction:Win for Chelsea.Goal from a setpiece and another from Oscar.Unsure about final score.

Hoping for 4-2 for Chelsea with Rooney putting the 2 for United.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:41 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:de Bruyne is a great player tbh, can't blame Mou for starting him.
This. Looked something like five times more dangerous against Hull than Mata did against Aston Villa. Works hard, too.


Should be an insanely interesting game, both on individual and team level.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:42 pm

Btw, no one mentioning yet that Rooney is starting hmm
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Post by Helmer Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:48 pm

vivabarca38 wrote:
As for Mata,I think he'll play a good number of games but it will mostly be in any other position other as an AM if in a 4-2-3-1.I think Mourinho likes the Attacking Midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 to drop down and act as a 3rd man in midfield to collect the ball and distribute or for defensive purposes.
I have seen mata doing that few times

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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:48 pm

Imagine if Rafa benched Mata and played without a natural striker though, there would be heads gone Laughing
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Post by Helmer Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:49 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Oscar and hazard both start...Oscar, please save me, we have to defeat 'pardew pls go' Laughing
Schurrle starts :cheers:I must watch this game now
I hope Hazard gets sent off :coffee:

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Post by Kaladin Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:50 pm

Why isn't Azpi starting ?
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:51 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Why isn't Azpi starting ?
Not big and strong enough for Mou, that's why I have Ivanovic in my FF team Proud
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Post by Helmer Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:51 pm

Art Morte wrote:Btw, no one mentioning yet that Rooney is starting hmm
I am stunned. What a statement that would be from Moyes.
Also, i am quite happy Schurrle getting a chance against a big team. I hope he relishes this chance today

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Post by Kaladin Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:52 pm

ffs i have Azpi in my team and he hasn't played ANY game

Need them points Sad
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:52 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
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HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Oscar and hazard both start...Oscar, please save me, we have to defeat 'pardew pls go' Laughing
Schurrle starts :cheers:I must watch this game now
I hope Hazard gets sent off :coffee:
We would both lose points Laughing
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Post by nasir6371 Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:52 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Why isn't Azpi starting ?
All Spanish players getting ostracized http://www.goallegacy.net/t32516-portuguese-vengeance
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Post by Blue Barrett Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:53 pm

Tbf to Mata, he's suffering from lack of preseason plus a nagging injury. I wasn't surprised he played a shit game against Villa.
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:55 pm

Btw Kagawa on the bench again :facepalm:

Someone save him pls
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:56 pm

Its his fault. Kloppo wanted to take him back but he refused
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:57 pm

You look at Mou's entire career he's only ever had one AM who doesn't defend much.

With Hazard already there its highly unlikely he will play two weak defensively AMs.

In his mind its Hazard or Mata with Oscar and De Bruyne providing the work rate and athleticism. ( obviously quality too but they are not in the team for that)
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Post by Firenze Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:58 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Btw Kagawa on the bench again :facepalm:

Someone save him pls
It's really rustling me

He should just leave, he'll rot with us. Deserves to be starting.
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