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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:21 pm

Yeah Gil and don't forget they'll probably play Honda as the CAM in the 4-2-3-1 so they can't even play SES/Ljajic there.

I have no idea what formation they can use to implement all 3 of those players without at least 1 being sacrificed to a role they're not particularly good in.

And any other formations they have used in the past couple of season would be even worse. I.E 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-3

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:22 pm

Morata is there because all the high profile part-exchange options rejected them LMFAO

Not to mention Ljajic rejected them as well rofl
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:23 pm

As for Milan i think you will see a set up like this....

Montolivo
Poli Honda
Ljajic
Balo SES

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Post by Gil Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:24 pm

I'm thinking they'll probably play Ljajic in behind Balo and SES. He was originally an AM after all, could potentially work.

But where does that leave Honda if he joins? Depth signing?
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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:27 pm

inb4 Pastore, Lamela, Pjanic and Coentrao.

Pull your thumb out, Arsene.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:30 pm

Maybe they want to improve the depth of their squad and use the principle of rotation more than last season; I'm guessing that they want to compete in Serie A, Coppa Italia and UCL at the same time with real chances to win the trophies.

So we have two positions: LW/CAM and three players. Honda cand be injured and SES/Ljajic can go in CAM mode. Also, if SES/Ljajic get injured, the other one will head directly in the first XI for the next game.

Maybe they won't have injury problems , but they'll still have to play 3 games a week, therefore they should rotate them if they want to fulfill their objectives.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:31 pm

Honda as a CM doesn't look good at all to me

Then again for years they've had awful, awful CM depth. The sort of MF that will help you ship 5 goals in 35 minutes. So it could be worse.

But I doubt Honda's going to be so eager to go to Milan if it means getting benched right away.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:34 pm

Honda is more of a CM than a AM from what i have seen.

Will work out fine when you consider how much discipline and work rate he has.

The other option could be.....

Montolivo Poli
Honda Ljajic SES
Balo

Honda also played RW on numerous occasions, he's an extremely versatile player.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:38 pm

@Mole This can be a solution but I'd still rotate them and use Niang on the right wing as the first option.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:38 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:As for Milan i think you will see a set up like this....

Montolivo
Poli Honda
Ljajic
Balo SES


We won't play like that.

1- Honda is NOT a CM. He's a CAM or SS, there is a reason why Zacheroni plays him over Kagawa in the middle. Honda doesn't offer that much defensive work, he's a TQ. Not a CM.

2- Not enough defensive cover in that formation even though it looks sexy Proud.

3- Milan will be playing a 4-3-1-2 next season, for anyone wondering.

4- One of Ljajic or Honda will play CAM if both are signed, I assume Honda will be the CAM and Ljajic will be a back up to SES. His best performances have come as a SS/LW not a CAM.

Ideally that looks great, but I highly doubt it will happen.

I think this is how we will line up:

Montolivo De Jong Poli
Honda
Balo SES/Ljajic
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:39 pm

BTW its pointless saying we would be playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 when Berlu, Galliani and Allegri have all specifically said we would play a 4-3-1-2.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Ljajic going to Milan to be SES boot cleaner hmm
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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:41 pm

------Montolivo--De Jong---Honda
---------------- Ljajic
-----------Balotelli---El Sharaawy

I think Galliani said he wanted to play a 4-3-1-2 next season.

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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:42 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ljajic going to Milan to be SES boot cleaner hmm

Not only that TBH

Under Allegri we have had players who are SS (Robinho, Cassano) capable of playing CAM, but he doesn't play them CAM. And before you guys say those players are lazy, Ljajic is quite lazy as well lol.

We will definitely be rotating a fair amount next season, it will be interesting.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:43 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:------Montolivo--De Jong---Honda
---------------- Ljajic
-----------Balotelli---El Sharaawy

I think Galliani said he wanted to play a 4-3-1-2 next season.

Honda isn't a CM
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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:44 pm

I think Honda can play anywhere in midfield.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:45 pm

I'm pretty sure i have seen Honda play CM before tbf lol.

In any case both are really good signings if they happen and quite a drastic change in midfield personnel since selling Pirlo for relatively little money.

Congrats are in order if you pull this off.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:45 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:I think Honda can play anywhere in midfield.

Lol no he can't. He's a CAM/SS. Refer to my earlier post, Honda doesn't put enough effort defending to play as a CM, from the games I've downloaded.

Check his Fifa workrate MT you'll understand better Proud
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:47 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm pretty sure i have seen Honda play CM before tbf lol.

In any case both are really good signings if they happen and quite a drastic change in midfield personnel since selling Pirlo for relatively little money.

Congrats are in order if you pull this off.

Lol if you've seen him play CM then there must have been 2 workhorses doing the defensive work for him. He's so poor defensively.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:47 pm

Why not rotate them and use Niang on the right wing as the first option? The guy has a lot potential to become lethal for every defender in a few seasons. He already is an amazing acrobat and he only needs to become more mature and gain some experience; after that he'll regularly put in fabulous goals.

What about 4-3-2-1?

Montolivo - De Jong - Poli ------ *3
-------Ljajic /HONDA\ SES ----- *2
----------Balotelli ------------- *1
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:49 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:Why not rotate them and use Niang on the right wing as the first option? The guy has a lot potential to become lethal for every defender in a few seasons. He already is an amazing acrobat and he only needs to become more mature and gain some experience; after that he'll regularly put in fabulous goals.

What about 4-3-2-1?

Montolivo - De Jong - Poli ------ *3
-------Ljajic /HONDA\ SES ----- *2
----------Balotelli ------------- *1

Mate, I don't want us to play a 4-3-1-2 it limits our options, but according to nearly everybody in the staff/board they all said we would play a 4-3-1-2. It's pointless discussing different formations when we probably know we won't play them even though it suits our players better.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:50 pm

It is 4-3-2-1 not 4-3-1-2 and in my opinion this 4-3-2-1 formation doesn't limit your options.
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:52 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:It is 4-3-2-1 not 4-3-1-2 and in my opinion this 4-3-2-1 formation doesn't limit your options.

Yes I know lol, what i meant was Milan will be playing a 4-3-1-2 next season. So it's pointless discussing other formations when Berlu, Galliani, Allegri have all said we would be playing 4-3-1-2.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:54 pm

Well, it seems that Ljajic and Honda would rotate on the CAM position in that 4-3-1-2 and SES will be with Balo in front.

I can't see it in a different way.


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Post by Kaladin Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:55 pm

Disappointed if Saponara will be ostracized from this, i have high hopes for him
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Post by Casciavit Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:55 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:Well, it seems that Ljajic and Honda will roatate on the CAM position in that 4-3-1-2 and SES will be with Balo in front.

Yup, I think so.

Ideally it would be: Honda, Monto, Poli: Ljajic: SES, Balo , but i highly doubt its going to happen.
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