Best XI of all time

Rossoneri Ninja wrote:

Giovanni10 wrote:

Rossoneri Ninja wrote:

Lol bro, I know for a fact you never really watched Van Basten and Baresi play- You've only seen a couple of Youtube vids!!! Nedved, are you serious? He wouldn't even make my bench.

Now my 3-4-3 on the other hand is pure class (again in case you missed it the first time):

--------------------------------Casillas
--------------Thuram-----------Hierro----------Maldini
Cafu---------------Viera--------------Seedorf-------------Roberto Carlos
------Messi-------------------Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima----------Ronaldinho


Admit it, its perfection.

Lol completely forgot about this thread

Watched Van Basten on ESPN classic was just too graceful to be left out, it was him or Sheva.

Why Nedved? Because you won't find a player that worked harder than Nedved and was half as technically good as him. I mean really Gio ..two footed , a canon in each , pace, sexy blond hair , finesse and works his ass off to boot..

I see you went with the " try to out score me" approach again, funny thing is, that same approach hasn't worked for you in PES for how long now??

Spoiler:

xabi wrote:Buffon
Cafu-Puyol-Maldini-R.Carlos
-xavi-makelele-iniesta-
-c.ronaldo-messi-zidane

best players I've watched(R9 benched to give messi his false 9 role)

xabi wrote:Messi in history's best line-up come on people he is on level with CR7 right now does that mean CR7 is in the history's best lineup? No

Neither of them should be there and if you want messi in your team you should atleats wait until the end of his career

Rossoneri Ninja wrote:Trust me Gio wasn't thinking about defense LMAO! He wanted to put as many attacking players as he could , he even put Hierro in the backline instead of Nesta ! WHY?? Because Hierro scored crap load of goals lol Not that i'm against Hierro's inclusion , its just an indicator of Gio's mindset when it comes to picking formations.

Khaledbarca wrote:

xabi wrote:Buffon
Cafu-Puyol-Maldini-R.Carlos
-xavi-makelele-iniesta-
-c.ronaldo-messi-zidane

best players I've watched(R9 benched to give messi his false 9 role)

xabi wrote:Messi in history's best line-up come on people he is on level with CR7 right now does that mean CR7 is in the history's best lineup? No

Neither of them should be there and if you want messi in your team you should atleats wait until the end of his career

Zealous wrote:From 1995 onwards:

---------------------Iker-------------------------
-Zanetti----Hierro(c)----Maldini---Carlos---
-------------Redondo---Zidane----------------
---Messi----------Rivaldo---------Cristiano--
------------------Raul----------------------------

I think I have a nice mix of flair and work rate in my team.

And yeah I'd rather have Raul over any of the CF's you guys chose

Zealous wrote:From 1995 onwards:

---------------------Iker-------------------------
-Zanetti----Hierro(c)----Maldini---Carlos---
-------------Redondo---Zidane----------------
---Messi----------Rivaldo---------Cristiano--
------------------Raul----------------------------

I think I have a nice mix of flair and work rate in my team.

And yeah I'd rather have Raul over any of the CF's you guys chose

Zealous wrote:Thanks man, You understood my idea perfectly there. Raul would drop deep to link up leaving Cris and Messi to cut in and tear sh*t up :dance:

Anyway to continue the fun here is an all time formation (It won't include anyone in my first formation to keep things fun)

----------------------------Yashin-------------------
Carlos Alberto--Beckenbauer---Baresi--Fachetti-------
-------------------Matthaus---Rikjaard---------------
---Cruyff---------------Maradona--------Di Stefano--
-----------------------------Pele--------------------

Sexy as hell that. It has the four "god tier" players in it and more or less still defensively solid with Lothar and Frank in midfield.

Zico and Rivellino would be the first guys off the bench for me :dance:

AttacanteBG wrote:I'll go with my team.

Goalkeeper: Gianluiggi Buffon, simply the best ever. Handling, reflexes, command of area, 1 on 1. he had it all.

Left back: Paolo Maldini, you dont have to say much about Maldini, intransitive in deffence, great in attack. He define this position for players such as Roberto Carlos and others.

Centre-back: Franco Baressi: Playing as a libero with defence, he also had to bring the ball out, and organise attacks from the back. Great tactical understanding of the game, technique, fighting spirit, leadership, Baressi had it all. While he wasnt phisically best, he made it up with his approach, bravery and inteligence. What Maradona was in attack, it was Baressi in defence.

Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro: When cb wins the golden ball, then its clear what a player he is. When Materazzi beside him look as a great player, then its clear what a player he is. Tackticaly great, jumping, tackling, speed. Cannavaro was most complete defender of the last decade.

Right back: Javier Zanetti: Il capitano as they call him still a great player at 37. Great in deffence, imperious in attack. Started as a left wing, and played almost every position on the pitch and always was fantastic.

Central Midfield: Javier Redondo: He had every single characteristic of a great atack midfielder, yet he was briliant in defence. Tacticaly, Techniqaly fantastic player, he would hade bigger career if it not for injurys.

Centar Midfield: Genaro Gattuso: This position would be reserve for Claude Makelele, but you cant overlook Gattuso's contribition to Milan. Great fighter, always works for the team. It is his play that enables players like Kaka and Pirlo to shine.

Attacking midfielder: Zinedine Zidane: Most complete midfielder of the decade. Always knew what to with the ball, player that every manager would love to work with. He won it all, scoring goals in finals of two biggest competitons: World Cup and Champions League.

Left Wing: Ryan Giggs: Still great player at 38 years old. He still beats all younger heirs that Sir Alex brings in club. Great player both in tactical and tehnical sense, and has that extra something to alwas make fools of english fullbacks.

Right Wing: Francesco Totti: Princ of Rome How he never won golden ball is beyond me. Totti has so much class in his play, he regulary nutmegs defenders and goalkeepers, when you tought he will shoot with panic, he chips the ball and make fool of goalkepper. Fantastic player.

Striker: Andriy Shevchenko. Altough most expect Ronaldo here it is Sheva that makes the cut. Fast, strong, great finisher, great techinque. He could play on wing or as a lone striker and always be top player.

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Best new poster

AttacanteBG wrote:

AttacanteBG wrote:I'll go with my team.

Goalkeeper: Gianluiggi Buffon, simply the best ever. Handling, reflexes, command of area, 1 on 1. he had it all.

Left back: Paolo Maldini, you dont have to say much about Maldini, intransitive in deffence, great in attack. He define this position for players such as Roberto Carlos and others.

Centre-back: Franco Baressi: Playing as a libero with defence, he also had to bring the ball out, and organise attacks from the back. Great tactical understanding of the game, technique, fighting spirit, leadership, Baressi had it all. While he wasnt phisically best, he made it up with his approach, bravery and inteligence. What Maradona was in attack, it was Baressi in defence.

Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro: When cb wins the golden ball, then its clear what a player he is. When Materazzi beside him look as a great player, then its clear what a player he is. Tackticaly great, jumping, tackling, speed. Cannavaro was most complete defender of the last decade.

Right back: Javier Zanetti: Il capitano as they call him still a great player at 37. Great in deffence, imperious in attack. Started as a left wing, and played almost every position on the pitch and always was fantastic.

Central Midfield: Javier Redondo: He had every single characteristic of a great atack midfielder, yet he was briliant in defence. Tacticaly, Techniqaly fantastic player, he would hade bigger career if it not for injurys.

Centar Midfield: Genaro Gattuso: This position would be reserve for Claude Makelele, but you cant overlook Gattuso's contribition to Milan. Great fighter, always works for the team. It is his play that enables players like Kaka and Pirlo to shine.

Attacking midfielder: Zinedine Zidane: Most complete midfielder of the decade. Always knew what to with the ball, player that every manager would love to work with. He won it all, scoring goals in finals of two biggest competitons: World Cup and Champions League.

Left Wing: Ryan Giggs: Still great player at 38 years old. He still beats all younger heirs that Sir Alex brings in club. Great player both in tactical and tehnical sense, and has that extra something to alwas make fools of english fullbacks.

Right Wing: Francesco Totti: Princ of Rome How he never won golden ball is beyond me. Totti has so much class in his play, he regulary nutmegs defenders and goalkeepers, when you tought he will shoot with panic, he chips the ball and make fool of goalkepper. Fantastic player.

Striker: Andriy Shevchenko. Altough most expect Ronaldo here it is Sheva that makes the cut. Fast, strong, great finisher, great techinque. He could play on wing or as a lone striker and always be top player.

Still unmatched.

AttacanteBG wrote:

AttacanteBG wrote:I'll go with my team.

Goalkeeper: Gianluiggi Buffon, simply the best ever. Handling, reflexes, command of area, 1 on 1. he had it all.

Left back: Paolo Maldini, you dont have to say much about Maldini, intransitive in deffence, great in attack. He define this position for players such as Roberto Carlos and others.

Centre-back: Franco Baressi: Playing as a libero with defence, he also had to bring the ball out, and organise attacks from the back. Great tactical understanding of the game, technique, fighting spirit, leadership, Baressi had it all. While he wasnt phisically best, he made it up with his approach, bravery and inteligence. What Maradona was in attack, it was Baressi in defence.

Centre-back: Fabio Cannavaro: When cb wins the golden ball, then its clear what a player he is. When Materazzi beside him look as a great player, then its clear what a player he is. Tackticaly great, jumping, tackling, speed. Cannavaro was most complete defender of the last decade.

Right back: Javier Zanetti: Il capitano as they call him still a great player at 37. Great in deffence, imperious in attack. Started as a left wing, and played almost every position on the pitch and always was fantastic.

Central Midfield: Javier Redondo: He had every single characteristic of a great atack midfielder, yet he was briliant in defence. Tacticaly, Techniqaly fantastic player, he would hade bigger career if it not for injurys.

Centar Midfield: Genaro Gattuso: This position would be reserve for Claude Makelele, but you cant overlook Gattuso's contribition to Milan. Great fighter, always works for the team. It is his play that enables players like Kaka and Pirlo to shine.

Attacking midfielder: Zinedine Zidane: Most complete midfielder of the decade. Always knew what to with the ball, player that every manager would love to work with. He won it all, scoring goals in finals of two biggest competitons: World Cup and Champions League.

Left Wing: Ryan Giggs: Still great player at 38 years old. He still beats all younger heirs that Sir Alex brings in club. Great player both in tactical and tehnical sense, and has that extra something to alwas make fools of english fullbacks.

Right Wing: Francesco Totti: Princ of Rome How he never won golden ball is beyond me. Totti has so much class in his play, he regulary nutmegs defenders and goalkeepers, when you tought he will shoot with panic, he chips the ball and make fool of goalkepper. Fantastic player.

Striker: Andriy Shevchenko. Altough most expect Ronaldo here it is Sheva that makes the cut. Fast, strong, great finisher, great techinque. He could play on wing or as a lone striker and always be top player.

Still unmatched.

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:

Zealous wrote:Thanks man, You understood my idea perfectly there. Raul would drop deep to link up leaving Cris and Messi to cut in and tear sh*t up :dance:

Anyway to continue the fun here is an all time formation (It won't include anyone in my first formation to keep things fun)

----------------------------Yashin-------------------
Carlos Alberto--Beckenbauer---Baresi--Fachetti-------
-------------------Matthaus---Rikjaard---------------
---Cruyff---------------Maradona--------Di Stefano--
-----------------------------Pele--------------------

Sexy as hell that. It has the four "god tier" players in it and more or less still defensively solid with Lothar and Frank in midfield.

Zico and Rivellino would be the first guys off the bench for me :dance:

Yo, almost similar to mine. I would replace Alberto with Djalma Santos and Rijkaard with Didi, super-regista with folha secca freekick FTW! I think I have no problem with Zico replacing either of the Argentinian in the XI, or if you insist on having a bald and somehow not that blond "Blond Arrow" there, well yeah he's damn versatile enough to play at Rijkaard post, isn't he. Hey, you need Moore for some shoring up, Edwards for just in case, birdie Garrincha for some flying magic and der Bomber Muller for the win when you just don't know nothing else! der Kaiser for the skipper and any of Platini or Puskas or Eusebio to complete the bench as if Yashin has to be injured, you just put Maradona the handballer or Pele the athlete there.

In case you haven't, check this out http://www.xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=248904

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:I know, I and many posters also put a well-balanced team. It could be attack oriented, but still solid enough at the back.

Yes, I don't underestimate him, Rino's a true Rhino, although at the same time I think Makelele, Vieira, Keane, Davids, and Cambiasso are better than him. If you look to the Baresi era, there are Matthaus, Dunga, Deschamps, RIJKAARD, and DESAILLY you could put there. Gattuso is great destroying midfielder, but he's also helped by the quality of the midfield and defense of Milan in that era. So, what I mean is, replace Gattuso with any of the names that I provide and you would get the same or maybe better result. Speaking of Milanista, Albertini could replace Redondo as well.

Giggs is indeed a superstar, what I mean is those two positions LW and ST for many reasons along with AM has the most list of greats and subsequently Giggs is just one of the superstars and not well ahead of the rest like Baresi in CB or Maldini in LB for example.

Well, in my, most Milanisti, and general football public point of view, Nesta is better than Cannavaro. It's fine that you held to your opinion though, Canna is awesome as well, being short and bald and all that, but it's just strange considering you pick Gattuso and you unpick Nesta.

Cheers mate!!

AttacanteBG wrote:

Superstone Mariomintsch wrote:I know, I and many posters also put a well-balanced team. It could be attack oriented, but still solid enough at the back.

Yes, I don't underestimate him, Rino's a true Rhino, although at the same time I think Makelele, Vieira, Keane, Davids, and Cambiasso are better than him. If you look to the Baresi era, there are Matthaus, Dunga, Deschamps, RIJKAARD, and DESAILLY you could put there. Gattuso is great destroying midfielder, but he's also helped by the quality of the midfield and defense of Milan in that era. So, what I mean is, replace Gattuso with any of the names that I provide and you would get the same or maybe better result. Speaking of Milanista, Albertini could replace Redondo as well.

Giggs is indeed a superstar, what I mean is those two positions LW and ST for many reasons along with AM has the most list of greats and subsequently Giggs is just one of the superstars and not well ahead of the rest like Baresi in CB or Maldini in LB for example.

Well, in my, most Milanisti, and general football public point of view, Nesta is better than Cannavaro. It's fine that you held to your opinion though, Canna is awesome as well, being short and bald and all that, but it's just strange considering you pick Gattuso and you unpick Nesta.

Cheers mate!!

Keane, are you serious?