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Post by _SuperFloren_ Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:11 pm

........................Casillas..............................
M.Salgado.....Hierro......S.Ramos...........Roberto Carlos
.........................Redondo.............................
...............Zidane.............Laudrup..................
.........................Di Stefano.........................
..............Puskas..............Cristiano Ronaldo....


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.....................Zubizarreta............................
Alves...........Koeman..........Puyol............Sergi
........................Xavi............................
...............Iniesta........Cruyff......................
Maradona.............Messi.....................Ronaldinho
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Post by Zealous Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:22 pm

Maradona and Cruyff would bump heads and destabilise team harmony in Barca's team. So I think Madrid would win :coffee:
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Post by sportsczy Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:24 pm

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Sanchis-Ciriaco-Hierro-Roberto Carlos
Redondo-Zidane-Michel
Di Stefano-Puskas-Gento
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:51 pm

All-Time Real Madrid vs All-Time FC Barcelona AbEdjZnalA


Subs: Buyo, Marquitos, Salgado, Sanchis, Guti, Gallego, Zidane, Juanito, Kopa, Sanchez

Coach: Miguel Munoz


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All-Time Real Madrid vs All-Time FC Barcelona AbEljFNaow


Subs: Valdes, Migueli, Koeman, Abidal, Enrique, Iniesta, Laudrup, Cesar Rodriguez, Rivaldo, Stoichkov

Coach: Pep (player-manager)
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:01 pm

_SuperFloren_ wrote:........................Casillas..............................
M.Salgado.....Hierro......S.Ramos...........Roberto Carlos
.........................Redondo.............................
...............Zidane.............Laudrup..................
.........................Di Stefano.........................
..............Puskas..............Cristiano Ronaldo....


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.....................Zubizarreta............................
Alves...........Koeman..........Puyol............Sergi
........................Xavi............................
...............Iniesta........Cruyff......................
Maradona.............Messi.....................Ronaldinho

Sergio Ramos? (LOL) over Sanchis or Ciriaco? Redondo over Pirri? Laudrup over Zarraga? How have you not integrated Kopa? Salgado over Santamaria? Carlos over Camacho?


And where is the defensive cover in the midfield for Barcelona?
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:40 pm

Maradona isnt touching our team, no way.

Quality doesnt matter, we have more than enough of that and we would rather come with a team with function.

Also, we aint playing with Sergi...hes utterly average. We are going 3 at the back on you, especially if you play 2 strikers like you have there. Also no way we play without Guardiola or at least Busquets.
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Post by The Sanchez Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:56 pm

Cannot play without a proper DM. Pep or Busi has to be in there! Koeman and Puyol at the back.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:58 pm

Put Abidal as a LB ? I can't think of any other. Guys like Ronaldo, Romario or Maradona have no place in Barca's all time 11, not even on the bench. They may be better, but not greater.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:28 pm

Abidal is a great option if we want to play 4 at the back yes, he is our best leftback ever.

But ideally, we would go 3 at the back.

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:52 pm

The Franchise wrote:Abidal is a great option if we want to play 4 at the back yes, he is our best leftback ever.

But ideally, we would go 3 at the back.


with 3 at the back you need 2 wingers IMO. And with Messi and Dinho on the wings it lacks width.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:01 pm

Well this is where I disagree, I dont think you need 2 wingers at all.

The original dream team didnt play with 2 wingers and did quite fine I think you would agree.

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:14 pm

The Franchise wrote:Well this is where I disagree, I dont think you need 2 wingers at all.

The original dream team didnt play with 2 wingers and did quite fine I think you would agree.


I agree, but Cruyff's team had 4 at the back.
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Post by _SuperFloren_ Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:32 pm

Real's left side would be a joy to watch. Roberto Carlos+CR7 Wow. I like the midfield, Redondo-Zidane-Laudrup, pure elegance. If you add Don Alfredo Di Stefano, the total footballer. You take it all.

Barcelona's individual talent, Messi, Cruyff, Maradona, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Dinho, etc. It would be unbelievable but I dont know how to make them play together.... My Real Madrid looks strong and with good chemistry though
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:52 pm

The Franchise wrote:Maradona isnt touching our team, no way.

Quality doesnt matter, we have more than enough of that and we would rather come with a team with function.

Also, we aint playing with Sergi...hes utterly average. We are going 3 at the back on you, especially if you play 2 strikers like you have there. Also no way we play without Guardiola or at least Busquets.
Isn't Guardiola like Xabi-level-esque? That's the way I've heard his skill level described before. If so, then all of Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets are better.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:14 am

likeastar wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Well this is where I disagree, I dont think you need 2 wingers at all.

The original dream team didnt play with 2 wingers and did quite fine I think you would agree.


I agree, but Cruyff's team had 4 at the back.

I think you will find, they did not.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:17 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Maradona isnt touching our team, no way.

Quality doesnt matter, we have more than enough of that and we would rather come with a team with function.

Also, we aint playing with Sergi...hes utterly average. We are going 3 at the back on you, especially if you play 2 strikers like you have there. Also no way we play without Guardiola or at least Busquets.
Isn't Guardiola like Xabi-level-esque? That's the way I've heard his skill level described before. If so, then all of Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets are better.

As in, a long raking passer, not the best defender because he not so mobile?

Yeah thats true. I would personally go with Busquets for this team, because I am picking a team, as in, one that functions.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:17 am

All-Time Real Madrid vs All-Time FC Barcelona Barca-dream-team-91-93

Original dream team, just FYI.

My team, swap the back 3 with Puyol, Koeman and Dani Alves.

The midfield, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Cruyff.

Up front, Ronaldinho, Messi and Kubala going left to right.

Kubala is so old though, its impossible to say just how good a pick he is. Perhaps Figo as much as I hate him.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:16 am

Tbf i don't think how long ago comes into it..... if it did then Di Stefano and Puskas can't be in it either as they were around at same time as Kubala.

So i think you picking Kubala is just fine.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:46 am

No Santamaria? pls go GL
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Post by The Sanchez Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:59 am

Dani, your side is pretty much spot on however I feel like D.Alves may not suit a back three... Need someone with more defensive capabilities IMO
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Post by The Franchise Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:03 am

Dani Alves would be better defensively than Koeman in this formation tbh.

Actually Abidal would be better Koeman too here. Koeman is pretty slow, 3 at the back requires speed.

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Post by The Sanchez Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:38 am

The Franchise wrote:Dani Alves would be better defensively than Koeman in this formation tbh.

Actually Abidal would be better Koeman too here. Koeman is pretty slow, 3 at the back requires speed.


Your right there with Koeman... Abidal I was thinking would be more suited to a back three than Alves on the right... Shift Puyol to the right and we have a winner...
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Post by billy_gr Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:35 am

what I find strange in the above discussion is the fact that no conspiracies are mentioned and in the OP Super Flodidn't include any refs in Barca's side.
I don't know, maybe because Madrid are winning these days, who knows...
Anyway best Barca needs with a hat trick from Quatar Foundation and 2 assists by Michel Platini
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Post by _SuperFloren_ Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:41 am

billy_gr wrote:what I find strange in the above discussion is the fact that no conspiracies are mentioned and in the OP Super Flodidn't include any refs in Barca's side.
I don't know, maybe because Madrid are winning these days, who knows...
Anyway best Barca needs with a hat trick from Quatar Foundation and 2 assists by Michel Platini
XD
This thread doesnt change the fact that I still think Tom Henning Ovrebo and Wolfgang Stark are the most decisive men in FC Barcelona's history
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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:04 pm

Here is my team, I want to implement hoof ball counter attack tactics to defeat Barca's team. I'm also assuming we will play this game in the 70's were refs would not even hand yellows for two footed tackles.

--------------------------Buyo----------------------------
Salgado--------Hierro-------Sanchis------Camacho
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---------------Redondo---------Gallego---------------
Michel-------------------Zidane-----------Juanito----
--------------------Santiallna---------------------------


Good luck trying to avoid tough tackles with that back line. Camacho will also mark Cruyff comfortably out of the game.

Redondo, Gallego and Zidane will hold on to the ball quite well and they will mix it up when they have to.

Michel and Juanito will play it long to Santiallna who would physically molest Barca's back line both physically and in the air.

In the second half when Barca are physically battered I'll bring in Don Alfredo and Cristiano to deliver the final blow.
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