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Post by Myesyats Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:18 am

I don't understand how your post got upvoted. I smashed you right in the face with statistics from a reputable source. That's not propaganda or my opinion. That's as unbiased as it gets as those numbers are not made up from thin air but taken from mouths of people with certain beliefs.

I don't doubt that you Fennec are a decent guy but I believe that any extremist Muslim would gladly take his life and a couple of innocent other. You have to have the guts to do such a thing though but apparently a lot of people have 'em after being brainwashed for years.

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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:47 pm

I don't doubt you are a decent guy either. I responded to your post regarding statistics. The Muslim community in France doing all that is mostly Algerian with some morrocans and Tunisians.

The French-Algerian situation is complex and that's one thing you didn't mention with those stats. Context is everything
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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:47 pm

I understand there is conflict but does any situation, no matter how bad is it, justify suicide bombing?

The numbers are similar in most countries anyway especially amongst young people. That is worrying and I don't understand how it could be justified or explained.
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Post by rwo power Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:16 pm

Suicide bombing is not necessarily coupled with religion though (even though it seems to help to be a religious fanatic to pull through with such insanity). You might want to look up "Kamikaze" aka "Tokubetsu Kōgekitai"
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Post by zigra Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:47 pm

Myesyats wrote:I understand there is conflict but does any situation, no matter how bad is it, justify suicide bombing?

The numbers are similar in most countries anyway especially amongst young people. That is worrying and I don't understand how it could be justified or explained.


That's why I asked if we're talking about only the suicide bombings targeting civilians or any suicide attack with a bomb.

Like blowing yourself up to kill Hitler.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:21 pm

Blowing yourself up to kill Hitler is an extreme example which in my eyes could be justified given what hes done. That would be for the greater good of everyone and for freedom (religious motives play no part here) which is not the case with blowing up random people in order to receive salvation or something, I don't know where that gets you but it must get you somwhere if they do it.



Suicide aside, "Allahu Akbar" is always used by these people in any kind of bombing (or any attack for that matter) which roughly translates to "Allah, the God, is greater, the greatest".

It does not make sense to tie any of these actions with gods which in principle should be some supreme beings that seek balance between their creations, right?

So why does their faith encourage them to commit such actions or makes them think it's not a bad thing to do so?

Terrorism is strongly connected with religion in this case. I am yet to be proven otherwise if I'm being honest.

There must be a reason for them to shout these words. Somebody must have taught them that. Why should I believe that Islam does not promote violence then? Nobody managed to change my view on this, yet, to be frank.
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Post by Guest Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:02 pm

rwo power wrote:Suicide bombing is not necessarily coupled with religion though (even though it seems to help to be a religious fanatic to pull through with such insanity). You might want to look up "Kamikaze" aka "Tokubetsu Kōgekitai"


Many Kamikaze, especially the poor, were strictly religious. It was believed they would become gods when they died so full of pride even Hirohito himself would bow before them at  The Imperial shrine in Chiyoda. Of course their sacrifice was in vain because Hirohito was such a coward that before he died he wouldnt even visit the graves of the people who were forced to commit war crimes in his name, and he was the biggest war criminal of them all. No doubt the same can be said for these people killing themselves in the name of a Baghdadi, who I am sure cares less for ISIS fighters than Hirohito did for Japanese people.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:02 pm

http://www.dw.com/en/cologne-police-defend-new-years-eve-security-tactics/a-36969904

Cologne police defend New Year's Eve security tactics

In a bid to prevent a repeat of last year's sex attacks, state police focused on men of North African descent on New Year's Eve. Police Chief Jürgen Mathies has faced criticism for praising the success of the practice.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:42 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.dw.com/en/cologne-police-defend-new-years-eve-security-tactics/a-36969904

Cologne police defend New Year's Eve security tactics

In a bid to prevent a repeat of last year's sex attacks, state police focused on men of North African descent on New Year's Eve. Police Chief Jürgen Mathies has faced criticism for praising the success of the practice.


Textbook racial profiling honestly.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:06 pm

Yes but it seems to have worked so they'll probably do it again.

On the plus side (?) it seems that Germans are getting educated about the difference types of refugees rather than assuming all Muslims are equal, which is more than I can say of Americans
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:35 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/749374/germany-terror-attack-man-syria-arrested-police-cars-drive-into-crowds-new-years-eve

hmm
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Post by DuringTheWar Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:50 am

Myesyats wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/749374/germany-terror-attack-man-syria-arrested-police-cars-drive-into-crowds-new-years-eve

hmm


Vehicles kill more people than guns do, the injuries are worse too.

Vehicles unlike guns are not a threat to government coercion, so there are no calls for strict vehicle control. It's nice to see people's real motives exposed.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:20 pm

http://www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/reports/news/a48615/father-rescues-daughter-sexual-assault-terrifying-text/

After a man caught a Syrian refugee dragging his severely beaten daughter into the bushes to rape her, he quickly intervened. While the asylum seeker easily overpowered the poor girl, he immediately realized that he’d met his match when her furious father arrived.

This time it ended happily hmm But, hey....diversity and enrichement, right?

Should not we celebrate, guys?
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:45 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hungarian-camerawoman-petra-laszlo-trips-fleeing-refugee-kicking-filmed-video-convicted-sentencing-a7525136.html

Hungarian reporter trips a refugee - 3 years in jail (suspended sentence but still).

Refugee from Syria rapes 8 year old boy - proven innocent, no punishment



????? Obviously the woman deserved a punishment but what is this shit, honestly...
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Post by Freeza Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:06 pm

Myesyats wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hungarian-camerawoman-petra-laszlo-trips-fleeing-refugee-kicking-filmed-video-convicted-sentencing-a7525136.html

Hungarian reporter trips a refugee - 3 years in jail (suspended sentence but still).

Refugee from Syria rapes 8 year old boy - proven innocent, no punishment



????? Obviously the woman deserved a punishment but what is this shit, honestly...


It's a maximum of 2 years with no prison time. Not exactly a great example to use.

Also, if someone is proven innocent I don't see why they should be imprisoned. Though it might be a crime to be a refugee.

Also the fact that you bellends keep pretending we actually don't think they should be punished is ridiculous. It actually is possible to be a good person and support refugees while also holding criminals accountable
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:45 pm

He was proven innocent because he couldn't tell if the boy liked it or not... lmao

Refugees get a free pass because people like you are so gullible and let them ruin your country.

Reported for offensive language BTW. Keep on cruising, sweetie.
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Post by Freeza Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:49 pm

Myesyats wrote:He was proven innocent because he couldn't tell if the boy liked it or not... lmao

Reported for offensive language BTW. Keep on cruising, sweetie.


So he wasn't proven innocent then.

Reported for derogatory language aswell.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:02 pm

He wasn't sentenced even after admitting to having comitted the crime.

Because the refugee is a pure soul and the boy will be scarred for the rest of his life.


No point talking with you if you compare "bellend" to "sweetie". You couldn't understand the problem even if it hit you right in your forehead.
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Post by Freeza Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:13 pm

Myesyats wrote:He wasn't sentenced even after admitting to having comitted the crime.

Because the refugee is a pure soul and the boy will be scarred for the rest of his life.


No point talking with you if you compare "bellend" to "sweetie". You couldn't understand the problem even if it hit you right in your forehead.


1. He was found not-guilty.
2. He should be imprisoned for a long time
3. How things are said is all about the context. Sweetie wasn't said in any posivtive manner.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:02 pm

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:43 pm

'Everyone will be Muslim because of our stupidity': Catholic leader says Europe will become an Islamic state because of the migrant crisis
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Post by Nishankly Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:48 pm

Myesyats wrote:'Everyone will be Muslim because of our stupidity': Catholic leader says Europe will become an Islamic state because of the migrant crisis


Stupid start with a lot of insecurity and inferiority complex, Ends it well. Very true.
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Post by rincon Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:50 pm

"Catholic leader syas..." Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:50 pm

rincon wrote:"Catholic leader syas..." Laughing

Sheep be sheep.
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Post by rincon Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:39 pm

I'm not sure I understand your comment. If I misunderstand, please disregard this comment.

Should we follow "Catholic leaders" now? Laughing
If you are calling me sheep because I don't follow a bishop then thats the most ironic thing I've ever read.

That genius in that article is speaking against secularism. Thats all that needs to be said. This is no better than celebrities or footballers making bold on politics like their opinion should matter more than anyone else's.
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Post by zigra Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:07 am

Always thought the pope is the catholic leader hmm
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