OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended

Zealous wrote:Ribery isn't even half the player Ronaldo or Messi are though. Hell he's not even on Ibra's level.

I don't even think Ribery is the best player on his actual team lol

Awful post.

Ribery got outperformed by Robben and Muller in the CL though. There's not much of a gap between him and his teammates.

S wrote:

Zealous wrote:Ribery isn't even half the player Ronaldo or Messi are though. Hell he's not even on Ibra's level.

I don't even think Ribery is the best player on his actual team lol

Awful post.

Why because you don't agree with me? lol

Gil wrote:Ribery got outperformed by Robben and Muller in the CL though. There's not much of a gap between him and his teammates.

So what if the gap isn't as big? Is it his fault his teammates are actually great players who are also Ballon d'OR contenders compared to Messi's and Ronaldo's teammates?

Ridiculous.

Gil wrote:Ribery got outperformed by Robben and Muller in the CL though. There's not much of a gap between him and his teammates.

Yeah, it's pretty funny how people use CL to reason to give it to Ribery instead of Messi, when he won CL more, but wasn't even the best Bayern player in CL. And Messi carried Barca in La Liga in completely different level, than Ribery did Bayern in Bundesliga. And France is still playing for World Cup, when Argentina is already there as the group winners.

It's a team sport ffs! Who gives a flying *bleep*.

Zealous wrote:

S wrote:

Zealous wrote:Ribery isn't even half the player Ronaldo or Messi are though. Hell he's not even on Ibra's level.

I don't even think Ribery is the best player on his actual team lol

Awful post.

Why because you don't agree with me? lol

Firstly what is this 'level' you speak of ? Like he should score 50 goals like Ronaldo and Messi for a guy who primarily helps in assisting his teammates ? Or that he doesnt 'often' score flashy goals like Zlatan ?

The second part is clearly nonsense and you know it.CL performances are taken into account for the whole season not just one or two games where Robben popped and scored a goal or two in the latter rounds,lets not even go into this season where he has been literally unplayable at times.

Mind you i'm not one of those pro-Ribery guys who wants him to win it but atleast he deserves to be on the podium.

jibers wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Yes, because Ronaldo carrying Madrid to the biggest ever gap between 1st and 2nd in La Liga is worthy of an award...

In any case, on to funnier news:

Pele: "The Ballon D'Or will be decided between Messi and Cristiano Leonardo"

Been saying this for so long.

20 years from now...


Pedrito the little 8 year old Madridista: Father I went through Madrid's records and Cristiano scored so many goals. He is the most scorer in our history!...

Manuel, Pedrito's father: Ah yes, he is was a fine player little pedro, the best attacker we ever saw.

Pedrito: He must have led us to many trophies father!

Manuel: errr...yes we won a few...

Pedrito: How much did we win...

Manuel: (starts sweating and looking uncomfortable)...well...we won...a copa del rey...

Pedrito: yess...

Manuel: ...a Spanish super cup...

Pedrito: Carry on father...

Manuel: and 1 la liga...

Pedrito: ...is that it father? 1 la liga in the 7 seasons he was there?

Manuel: ...yes son...

Pedrito; What about la decima?

Manuel: He was let down by the team son...

Pedrito: but did the same team not assist him to score goals?

Manuel: Stfu you little shit before I knock u out!

Pedrito: father I'm 8...

at this point manuel grabs little pedro, shakes him violently and says the following:

Manuel: You are one cheeky *bleep* m8 and I will wreck u if I get the chance I swear on mi moms lyfe!

I'm sorry but this is horse shit. In team sports, the number of trophies has never been the biggest factor in a players legacy. Did Maradonna with the most Serie A titles? Is he not regarded as one of the greatest? Did Micheal Jordan win more titles than anyone else? How many titles did Alan Shearer win?

As a Man U fan yourself, do you consider Ryan Giggs the best player Man U has ever had cause he won more titles than anyone?

Messi is lucky enough to be in one of the greatest teams there ever was. A team so good, they actually win MORE games when he doesn't play!! A team that has had different coaches with little to no experience at the top level and still dominates and wins games! To hold that over Ronaldo is absolute cruelty. What, is he supposed to mark everyone and be goalkeeper as well. Maybe he should be the physio too and the coach as well?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Yes, because Ronaldo carrying Madrid to the biggest ever gap between 1st and 2nd in La Liga is worthy of an award...

In any case, on to funnier news:

Pele: "The Ballon D'Or will be decided between Messi and Cristiano Leonardo"

So Ronaldo, who finished top scorer in the UCL, scored 50+ goals over the season, and has started the current season in God - like form, doesn't deserve to even be in the top 5, coz his side finished 15 points adrift in the league, yet in your previous post you mention Mario effin' Goetze as a probable in the top 5.
The same Mario Goetze, who isn't even the best Midfielder in his squad, and whose own Dortmund side conceded the league by 20 points!!!!!
Epic Fail on your part mate

Why is Messi in contention ? He has been injured for like 2 months and you say he deservers to win ?

Ronaldo not winning trophies doesn't mean he can't contend for best player in the World. It's an individual trophy, not team based.

Also Messi and Ronaldo were better than Ribery individually. Bayern's was a team based victory. Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Mandzukic etc were just as important. Ribery wasn't really a stand out player like Messi and Ronaldo.

In terms of Messi vs Ronaldo, Messi will always be better individually. Only way Ronaldo will win it would be due to Messi getting injured or being off form. In terms of last season, Messi was better.

Ribery's gonna win. Messi was better individually but has won it too many times in a row now.. just for that I think they'll give it to Ribery. Messi's last season was okayish by his standards.. couldn't help Barca win anything other than La Liga. That's another thing that points to Ribery winning the Ballon d'Or.

Personally, Robben had a much more impact than Ribery but didn't play enough games.

neuro11 wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:What CR is currently doing is out of this planet him or Ribery sorry this one ain't messi's he didn't deserve it

and what you have just posted does not deserve to be posted this year...Sorry you have posted a year early....

I am just saying how things are

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Ribery's gonna win. Messi was better individually but has won it too many times in a row now.. just for that I think they'll give it to Ribery. Messi's last season was okayish by his standards.. couldn't help Barca win anything other than La Liga. That's another thing that points to Ribery winning the Ballon d'Or.

Personally, Robben had a much more impact than Ribery but didn't play enough games.

Ribery will finish second at best, even then Mehssi may just get enough votes to get ahead of ribery. Ronaldo's current form and global appeal will win him enough votes to win it IMO

Robben, for the time he played, was the best player in the whole CL. Ribery, Schweinsteiger, and Muller all could have arguments as second best, even Lahm or Dante too. Id say it goes Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, and then Muller. But Ribery, over the league and CL and cup and everything, was without a doubt the best player in the world. I agree talent wise hes not on Messis level (no one is right now), but in my opinion hes better than Ronaldo. The only thing Ronaldo has on Ribery are physical attributes. Ronaldo scores a shitload but also misses a shitload which is often forgotten. Ribery layely has been very clinical when given the chances. Difference is Ribery wont shoot from 30 yards multiple times a game like Ronaldo does. Ribery looks for the pass always first. But Ronaldo is really not that much more clinical than him. Ribery has Ronaldo on passing, more of a team player, able to make something out of nothing (besides just shooting from 30 yards Ronaldo doesnt really do it much), vision, dribbling, first touch, unpredictability, and overall a much smarter player. Still dont understand why people think Ronaldo us better than Ribery or even close to Messi.

The Ballon Dor list should be:

1. Ribery
2. Messi
3. Schweinsteiger
4. Robben
5. Ibrahimovic/Ronaldo

And before anyone says it, I cant stand Ribery or Ronaldo. Both are arrogant scumbags. So I have no preference. If it was my personal decision I would say Schweinsteiger or Robben or a Juve player should win it. But in all honesry, Ribery should. Simple as that.

Don't really agree that Robben deserves it more than Muller. He played like 2/3 the minutes Muller did last season.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Don't really agree that Robben deserves it more than Muller. He played like 2/3 the minutes Muller did last season.

...and? Messi played quite a bit less than Muller too...

Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo not winning trophies doesn't mean he can't contend for best player in the World. It's an individual trophy, not team based.

Also Messi and Ronaldo were better than Ribery individually. Bayern's was a team based victory. Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Mandzukic etc were just as important. Ribery wasn't really a stand out player like Messi and Ronaldo.

In terms of Messi vs Ronaldo, Messi will always be better individually. Only way Ronaldo will win it would be due to Messi getting injured or being off form. In terms of last season, Messi was better.

finally a reasonable post

messi was injured and yet he carried a mediocre barca team last season.

ronaldo scored tons of decisive goals when our team was in disarray

And honestly, I get it. you guys hate cr7 for his personality, style, whatever.. he can't dribble or pass (which is utter horse shit) and he's only good at scoring. lol. Just saying, you get nothing personally for hating either messi or ronaldo.. if you get satisfaction then you need to reevaluate your life

Robben and Gotze over Ronaldo.........

EarlyPrototype wrote:Robben and Gotze over Ronaldo.........

Robben:
-Scores and assists multiple times against Juventus and Barcelona in the CL, their best player througout the tournament.
-Assists the leveling goal against Dortmund in the CL final before scoring the winner.
-Bayern win the treble.

Gotze:
-One of Dortmunds best players throughout the CL, where they got to the final.
-Outperformed Ronaldo in the 2 BVB-RM games.
-Dortmunds best player in the league.

Ronaldo:
-Scores a buttload of goals.
-Leads Madrid to losing La Liga by a record margin to the same Barcelona team that Bayern, especially Robben, tore to shreds.

Yea...sounds like Ronaldo really deserves it. I think Ronaldo MIGHT have a slightly better chance than Gotze. But more deserving than Robben? I hope youre joking.

Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo not winning trophies doesn't mean he can't contend for best player in the World. It's an individual trophy, not team based.

Also Messi and Ronaldo were better than Ribery individually. Bayern's was a team based victory. Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Mandzukic etc were just as important. Ribery wasn't really a stand out player like Messi and Ronaldo.

In terms of Messi vs Ronaldo, Messi will always be better individually. Only way Ronaldo will win it would be due to Messi getting injured or being off form. In terms of last season, Messi was better.

This is more or less what I've been saying.
I am gonna hate myself for saying this but, it is the truth...
Ronaldo is second best player. I hate his personality, but as a player he is probably second best and he is perhaps most professional player there is. He obviously works very, very hard to be, stay, and possibly improve where he is now. Ronaldo is not the player he was 4-5 years ago. He is assisting. I repeat, he is assisting and has become considerably better at team play, though he still is selfish, but hey, all the strikers are. Some are more selfish, some less.

Who should win this years Bdor IMO? Ribery, and that is because he was lucky Messi got injured, and Bayern spanked our asses.

Gotze probably isn't more deserving than Ronaldo, but he definitely was BVB's best player last season for sure.

Messi achievements:
- La liga winner
- La liga top scorer
- Super cup winner
- Took Argentina to World Cup
- WC qualification top scorer
- At the moment 1 st in la liga table

Ronaldo achievemnts:
- No title
- CL top scorer
- No world cup yet
- No qualification top scorer
- No hope for la liga this season
- 50 goals in 2013 (80% of them easy goals)

If voters think a little more they can see that Messi clearly was more successfull. But voters will remember only last 1 month when messi injured

Ribery has big chance only because voters are bored of Messi

When does the voting commence, or has it already begun?

juventus101 wrote:

EarlyPrototype wrote:Robben and Gotze over Ronaldo.........

Robben:
-Scores and assists multiple times against Juventus and Barcelona in the CL, their best player througout the tournament.
-Assists the leveling goal against Dortmund in the CL final before scoring the winner.
-Bayern win the treble.

Gotze:
-One of Dortmunds best players throughout the CL, where they got to the final.
-Outperformed Ronaldo in the 2 BVB-RM games.
-Dortmunds best player in the league.

Ronaldo:
-Scores a buttload of goals.
-Leads Madrid to losing La Liga by a record margin to the same Barcelona team that Bayern, especially Robben, tore to shreds.

Yea...sounds like Ronaldo really deserves it. I think Ronaldo MIGHT have a slightly better chance than Gotze. But more deserving than Robben? I hope youre joking.

So götze who had to leave because of a hamstring, outperformed Ronaldo while being checked by doctors
So much disrespect for one of the greatest players this generation. I think Messi is the better player, but combined this year Ronaldo's form has resulted in him having a better individual year than Messi

Some of these names being put a head of cr is just..... you guys find every reason for cr to not win it, just cause you know madrid is gonna gloat about it and half of these reason some are listing are the very same reason messi won it