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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:35 pm

23-man shortlist on 29 October 2013.
Winner on 13 January 2014.

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Post by The_Badger Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:54 pm

Is this Ribery's to lose do you think?

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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:03 pm

Nah Messi will win it. Ribery was more of a team player last season. Players like Schweinsteiger, Martinez etc were just as important.

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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:13 pm

Ribery we'll end up 2nd or 3rd imo, Journalists will probably vote more for Ribery. Coaches/Players for Messi...

I think Neymar will be in top 5 after his great performance in the Confederation Cup...
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:29 pm

I call BS if Ribery or Ronnie aren't the winners. But then again I've seen Uefa do worse already.
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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:40 pm

The Awesome wrote:I call BS if Ribery or Ronnie aren't the winners. But then again I've seen Uefa do worse already.
Ronnie? who?
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Post by Harmonica Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:41 pm

If Messi doesn't win it this year, it's shambles. He was far beyond anyone else.
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Post by juventus101 Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:42 pm

What has Ronaldo done to deserve even being in the conversation about winning it. He should obviously make the shortlist but shouldnt even be close to winning it. The shortlist is hard to make, but I think the Top 3 should be Ribery, Messi, and Schweinsteiger. Robben should also put up a fight to be in the top 3 and would also be ahead of Ronaldo.
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Post by The_Badger Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:43 pm

Why would Ronaldo deserve it?

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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:45 pm

Ronaldo scored 55 goals, 2nd highest after Messi.

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Post by Harmonica Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:46 pm

It isn't Golden Boot.
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Post by juventus101 Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:47 pm

Robben scored the winning goal in a CL final just a few minutes before the game was over. Also assisted his teams only other goal as well. Id take that over 55 random goals against La Liga scrubs any day. Dont think I even need to explain Messi, Ribery, and Schweini being ahead of him.
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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:48 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo scored 55 goals, 2nd highest after Messi.
Cristiano scored 59 last season, Messi 69. But, this award should not be just about goals.
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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:51 pm

It's the best individual player, doesn't matter about what the team did.

Scoring 55 goals makes him a contender. Messi won it in 2011-12 when Barca won no major trophy.

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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:53 pm

Excluding what they did for their country, Messi scored 60 goals in 50 appearances and Ronaldo 55 goals in 55 appearances last season.

http://messivsronaldo.net/

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Post by juventus101 Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:54 pm

A contender yes, as in, he deserves to be in the shortlist. No more than that. He definitely does not deserve to win it or even be in the Top 3.
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Post by rwo power Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:54 pm

I sense a severe lack of GKs there *shakes head*
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Post by juventus101 Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:55 pm

I believe Neuer should be shortlisted, but no others. The only others with the talent to be there (Casillas and Buffon) werent at their best.
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:56 pm

Ronnies goals are only part of the reason I put him up there. I still see that Messi simply just isn't better than Ronaldo, honestly. If the world keeps accepting Messi as the better player, for whatever reason, then so be it. But at the very least lets not take one away from Ribery, like they've done with Xavi in 2010 and Iniesta in 2012.


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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:56 pm

Yeh Messi's better than Ronaldo so he should win it, however Ronaldo has a chance of being in the top 3.

Ribery's situation could possibly be compared to Sneijder's in 2010.

Also Ronaldo's better than Robben.

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Post by Harmonica Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:58 pm

Why should Ribery win it, he wasn't good in the CL and didn't carry Bayern to the league Maradona Napoli style, like Messi did?
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Post by rwo power Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:01 pm

juventus101 wrote:I believe Neuer should be shortlisted, but no others. The only others with the talent to be there (Casillas and Buffon) werent at their best.
Roman Weidenfeller?
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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:03 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Excluding what they did for their country, Messi scored 60 goals in 50 appearances and Ronaldo 55 goals in 55 appearances last season.

http://messivsronaldo.net/

Yes, 69 in 2012-13 [Barcelona 60, Argentina 10]
CR 59 [RM 55, POR 4].

performance for with their NT should be included.
Messi in 2012, scored 91 goals (all-time world record). He was UCL and Liga top scorer, won the golden shoe and set a record for his National team with 12 goals in a calendar year. also added 22 assists etc..



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Post by Khaled Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:05 pm

The Awesome wrote:Ronnies goals are only part of the reason I put him up there. I still see that Messi simply just isn't better than Ronaldo, honestly. If the world keeps accepting Messi as the better player, for whatever reason, then so be it. But at the very least lets not take one away from Ribery, like they've done with Xavi in 2010 and Iniesta in 2012.
How do you compare two players?
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:07 pm

Khaled wrote:
How do you compare two players?
Their overall attributes, naturally.
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