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Post by Gil Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:55 am

Who's considered the better prospect and who has the most potential between the two?
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Post by Kick Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:00 am

Madrid fans: Jese, obviously!

Barca fans: Madrid fans are clueless, Deulofeu is clearly better!

The rest of the forum: Who? scratch
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:11 am

Deulofeu the one tricky pony of Barca rofl Barca fans keep clinging on to him because they know he is their only decent talent
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Post by harhar11 Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:13 am

Our only decent talent? wow...

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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:19 am

Jese is way better ffs. A better comparasion would be Deulofeu vs Benavente.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:21 am

harhar11 wrote:Our only decent talent? wow...

Rafinha............... who else??
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Post by Donuts Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:43 am

Gil starting another troll thread, and everyone eats it up.

Jese wont be a star in Madrid, you guys have Christiano in his position, and then want to buy a young player such as Isco or Bale.
whereas Deulofeu's competition is Pedro..
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:52 am

Ronaldo is 28 and his contract runs out in 2 years and there are rumours it will be extended by 2 years

Perez has confirmed Isco is not what we need and if Bale comes he will likely occupy the RW role not LW. Jese is only 20 as well. Ronaldo might just do us all a favour and move to CF after next season when Jese has gotten used to the League.

Now that Neymar is there the guys competing for your RF position will be Sanchez, Tello, Pedro and then add Deulofeu into that mix he will find it hard to get playing time

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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:56 am

Donuts wrote:Gil starting another troll thread, and everyone eats it up.

Jese wont be a star in Madrid, you guys have Christiano in his position, and then want to buy a young player such as Isco or Bale.
whereas Deulofeu's competition is Pedro..

Neymar is 21 and is a LW like Deulofeu. :facepalm:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:19 pm

Donuts wrote:Gil starting another troll thread, and everyone eats it up.

Jese wont be a star in Madrid, you guys have Christiano in his position, and then want to buy a young player such as Isco or Bale.
whereas Deulofeu's competition is Pedro..
wrong, Jese played all season as false 9 scoring 22 goals, and he is excellent on the right as demonstrated with youth Spain NT, taking the golden boot at the euros. he is extremely versatile

Delofeu however relies too much on cutting inside from the left, where neymar plays.

either way it's going to be complicated for both to make it.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:10 pm

Deulofleu has talent but the question will always be mentality. People say his competition is Pedro - but does he want to be Pedro? Is he willing to be Pedro for even a year? I doubt it. Jese has demonstrated far better work ethic and a willingness to change/adapt and he will no doubt be easier to integrate into a team. I see Jese as a CF moreso than a winger or an attacking midfielder, and I think it will pay dividends to keep him in that mindset from now. But I do like the idea of him on the right to get minutes, like Higuain, so we'll see if he does.

Don't care for the cut in and shoot thing so avoid the left at all costs Laughing


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Post by harhar11 Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:11 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
harhar11 wrote:Our only decent talent? wow...

Rafinha............... who else??

Sergi roberto and Grimaldo for example..

And its not like Real Madrid have that many prospect themself to say that Barca only have high hopes for Deulofeu because he is our only decent talent..

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Post by harhar11 Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:16 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
Donuts wrote:Gil starting another troll thread, and everyone eats it up.

Jese wont be a star in Madrid, you guys have Christiano in his position, and then want to buy a young player such as Isco or Bale.
whereas Deulofeu's competition is Pedro..

Neymar is 21 and is a LW like Deulofeu. :facepalm:

Isn't Deulofeu a RW?

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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:31 pm

harhar11 wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
harhar11 wrote:Our only decent talent? wow...

Rafinha............... who else??

Sergi roberto and Grimaldo for example..

And its not like Real Madrid have that many prospect themself to say that Barca only have high hopes for Deulofeu because he is our only decent talent..

Sergi Roberto like Alex seems to have cooled off and he is like 21 or 22 now either he gets promoted or he is sold and I don't see many teams after him

Grimaldo is young and does have potential no doubt but he is very mistake prone and doesn't read the game well. He has sometime to learn though

Castilla are full of them. Denis who will either get promoted or leave this summer Benfica and Leverkusen are after him. Then you have the likes of Jose Rodriguez, Jese, Benavente, Raul de Thomas, Derik, Llorente, Noblejas and Pachecho etc who I can easily see promoted or at another top team

we have other decent ones who I can see at other decent teams like Juanfran who has signed for Betis. I can see Lucas signing for another good team. Nacho as well and Morata. We are rich with them. I won't even worry about our youth for the next three or so years because of the guys coming up

Real Madrid have 14 canteranos playing for spains u21/20/19 while barca only have 9 and nearly all of them for the u21. Tells you all
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Post by Gil Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:47 pm

Surprised to hear Jese is more of a striker. What's with the Ronaldo comparisons if that's the case?

And why is everyone claiming Defloss is a left winger when he clearly prefers to operate from the right?

Personally think Deulofeu has the better chance of making it for his club, Jese will need to impress away on loan to even have a chance of getting a look in.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:48 pm

Gil wrote:Surprised to hear Jese is more of a striker. What's with the Ronaldo comparisons if that's the case?

And why is everyone claiming Defloss is a left winger when he clearly prefers to operate from the right?

Personally think Deulofeu has the better chance of making it for his club, Jese will need to impress away on loan to even have a chance of getting a look in.

Jese is more of a Reus if you ask me.
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Post by futbol Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:42 pm

The one playing for Barca will make it. The one playing for Madrid won't. Last time a Castilla product succeeded in the first team? Uhmmm ... let me see ... Casillas? History doesn't lie. Jessy will become a Getafe legend. Proud

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Post by harhar11 Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:53 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:

Rafinha............... who else??

Sergi roberto and Grimaldo for example..

And its not like Real Madrid have that many prospect themself to say that Barca only have high hopes for Deulofeu because he is our only decent talent..

Sergi Roberto like Alex seems to have cooled off and he is like 21 or 22 now either he gets promoted or he is sold and I don't see many teams after him

Grimaldo is young and does have potential no doubt but he is very mistake prone and doesn't read the game well. He has sometime to learn though

Castilla are full of them. Denis who will either get promoted or leave this summer Benfica and Leverkusen are after him. Then you have the likes of Jose Rodriguez, Jese, Benavente, Raul de Thomas, Derik, Llorente, Noblejas and Pachecho etc who I can easily see promoted or at another top team

we have other decent ones who I can see at other decent teams like Juanfran who has signed for Betis. I can see Lucas signing for another good team. Nacho as well and Morata. We are rich with them. I won't even worry about our youth for the next three or so years because of the guys coming up

Real Madrid have 14 canteranos playing for spains u21/20/19 while barca only have 9 and nearly all of them for the u21. Tells you all

First time in a long time that Real Madrid has more player playing for the u21/20/19, no?

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Post by guest7 Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:58 pm

futbol wrote:The one playing for Barca will make it. The one playing for Madrid won't. Last time a Castilla product succeeded in the first team? Uhmmm ... let me see ... Casillas? History doesn't lie. Jessy will become a Getafe legend. Proud

Carvajal? or u tryin to convince me ol' man arbeloa is going to bench him? Proud
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:15 pm

@harhar no we have always had more players in the u19 squad than barca but have usually had less in the u21 team partially because no castilla player will be included unless they have actually played with the first team and partially because we always sell our players.

will be interesting to see how the spain u20 coach will form his team. If Jese has a good tournament no way in hell he won't be promoted same with Deulofeu I think.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:17 pm

jese's promotion doesnt depend on spain u20. reality is that Zidane would like Jese to stay at the club while Deulofeu wants to go on loan
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:23 pm

if there is any doubt now there won't be then

just imagine the press if we go into august and still haven't anounced his promotion Proud

Deulofeu has at least renewed his contract lol which Jese hasn't yet
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Post by futbol Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Se7en wrote:
futbol wrote:The one playing for Barca will make it. The one playing for Madrid won't. Last time a Castilla product succeeded in the first team? Uhmmm ... let me see ... Casillas? History doesn't lie. Jessy will become a Getafe legend. Proud

Carvajal? or u tryin to convince me ol' man arbeloa is going to bench him? Proud

I don't know who Carvajal is. Is that the guy who is sitting on the bench behind Barca's Montoya in the current U21 EC? Proud

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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:53 pm

futbol wrote:
Se7en wrote:
futbol wrote:The one playing for Barca will make it. The one playing for Madrid won't. Last time a Castilla product succeeded in the first team? Uhmmm ... let me see ... Casillas? History doesn't lie. Jessy will become a Getafe legend. Proud

Carvajal? or u tryin to convince me ol' man arbeloa is going to bench him? Proud

I don't know who Carvajal is. Is that the guy who is sitting on the bench behind Barca's Montoya in the current U21 EC? Proud

The one who will play at the WC
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