Re: Boxing thread

by Abramovich Fri May 31, 2013 7:24 pm

I think it's going to be one sided because for me Cannelo just doesn't have the blue print to have a legit chance.

Sure he's got a punchers chance, probably the best fighter Floyd has fought in a LONG time bar Guerro (i.e. a *bleep* up Cotto, a dead Mosley, a finished Oscar etc).

For me to stand a chance of beating Floyd, you need high high pressure and volume. Every time I watch the Hatton fight yes he got mashed up because Hatton got boxed, but Cortez was a gimp and Floyd wasn't handling him that well.

People will call me a Pac fan boy or what ever, but I still concede that even a prime Pac i.e around the time he fought Cotto would have a 45% chance of winning vs Floyd or so.

For me Saul just doesn't have the stamina, I've always been a bit skeptical of him although he did surprise me massively vs Trout which I thought he was going to lose.

Much I'd love him to prove me wrong again, I just don't think he's ready. Aside from Trout looking at the list of fighters he's thought, I'm not impressed.

by Rebaño Sagrado Fri May 31, 2013 7:32 pm

The Franchise wrote: He fought at that before..and.....

There is no disadvntage to Canelo here ffs he can weight what he likes...how our comparing to Cotto and Pac idk..Cotto couldn't rehydrate to whatever weight he wanted.

Canelo said he is happy specifically talking about the weight,...

Flloyd is alread fighting more out his natural weight that Canelo and still crying...the hate is too strong.

and....there shouldn't be a problem fighting Canelo at his weight class when he has fought there before and he holds a title at the weight class

There was no rehydration clause in the cotto-pac fight.Someone just made that up. And people throw it around like its a fact. Show me proof if it is true.

There is no difference between this cw and the cotto pac cw.

by Rebaño Sagrado Fri May 31, 2013 7:38 pm

I was impressed by Canelo's speed vs Trout, but that's about it. His power is nice but he gets tired even when he throws so little. He might make it excting for a while, but in the end floyd will pull out the win.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 31, 2013 8:12 pm

Abramovich wrote:I think it's going to be one sided because for me Cannelo just doesn't have the blue print to have a legit chance.

Sure he's got a punchers chance, probably the best fighter Floyd has fought in a LONG time bar Guerro (i.e. a *bleep* up Cotto, a dead Mosley, a finished Oscar etc).

For me to stand a chance of beating Floyd, you need high high pressure and volume. Every time I watch the Hatton fight yes he got mashed up because Hatton got boxed, but Cortez was a gimp and Floyd wasn't handling him that well.

People will call me a Pac fan boy or what ever, but I still concede that even a prime Pac i.e around the time he fought Cotto would have a 45% chance of winning vs Floyd or so.

For me Saul just doesn't have the stamina, I've always been a bit skeptical of him although he did surprise me massively vs Trout which I thought he was going to lose.

Much I'd love him to prove me wrong again, I just don't think he's ready. Aside from Trout looking at the list of fighters he's thought, I'm not impressed.

Tbh i agree with all this but still my point stands it will be a lot more competitive than any other Post Oscar fight.

Gotta understand where i'm coming from, pretty much every Floyd has had since then he has won the fight by ATLEAST a 5 round difference.

None of his fights have even been close and while i expect him to win and comfortably by the end i expect Saul to at least push him and make a fight of it.

Also i still think Trout beat him btw, but its the judges call at the end of the day.

by farfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:49 am

let's talk about garcia ducking mathysse .

rumour has it garcia-judad II is in the works :facepalm:

by RealGunner Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:27 pm

Amir khan vs Devon Alexander in December

Thoughts?

by Rebaño Sagrado Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:29 pm

farfan wrote:let's talk about garcia ducking mathysse .

rumour has it garcia-judad II is in the works

Think it will still go through but i feel bad for danny boy lol

He just got the lime light and know he is going to have to face Lucas

RealGunner wrote:Amir khan vs Devon Alexander in December

Thoughts?

Meh. Boring fight.

by RealGunner Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:51 pm

Never seen Devon. How good/bad is he?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:03 pm

fast hands, with accuracy but combination work is very basic.

So he doesn't put 2 and 3s together in succession.

Footwork is impressive but is liable to get hit because his head movement can be poor at times, sometimes just doesn't move his head at all.

He also has a decent chin so i don't expect a KO here.

I agree with Rebs on the fight possibly being boring, reason being is because they both similar strengths and weaknesses.

Styles make fights and don't feel Khan's and Alexander's mesh too well.

by farfan Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:37 pm

mathysse-garcia in september cheers

by The Franchise Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:08 pm

"Middleweight" Chavez Jr Laughing

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by Albiceleste Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:42 am

maidana broner should be confirmed soon banana

overrated arrogants goin down

Lucas needs to call Mayweather out once Garcias out cold, he would probably duck unforunately, mayweather would never fight him at 140

in all likelihood he will be faced against a scrub like khan or alexander

then after one of them will probably get an older slower mayweather at 147.

also look out for Diego Chaves to upset and KO Keith Thurman on saturday, another hard hitting argentine

by The Franchise Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:35 pm

Nah, he will beat Maidana. Maidana is good and has great power, but his hands are too slow, his feet are even slower and he runs out of gas after 8 rounds.

by Albiceleste Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:09 pm

The Franchise wrote:Nah, he will beat Maidana. Maidana is good and has great power, but his hands are too slow, his feet are even slower and he runs out of gas after 8 rounds.

Maidana is good enough to last and his stamina is a lot better now, broner will be getting hit and he has a good punchers chance because of that

also under robert garcia maidana is changed alot, he boxes more on the back foot, jabs a lot more and seems generally like a much more rounded fighter than he used to be

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:23 pm

Lucas wouldn't have a hope in hell against Mayweather lol.

He's too flat footed and would get picked apart all night.

Canelo has a better chance.

by Albiceleste Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:33 pm

He will still land shots on floyd, he has great timing. Floyd may be the master boxer it takes to stop him but I dont think he can hurt lucas, lucas will go the distance he is a very smart fighter. he can tire out floyd and with his work rate, timing and power, again, punchers chance

by The Franchise Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:22 pm

Albiceleste wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Nah, he will beat Maidana. Maidana is good and has great power, but his hands are too slow, his feet are even slower and he runs out of gas after 8 rounds.

Maidana is good enough to last and his stamina is a lot better now, broner will be getting hit and he has a good punchers chance because of that

also under robert garcia maidana is changed alot, he boxes more on the back foot, jabs a lot more and seems generally like a much more rounded fighter than he used to be

That remains to be seen. I first noticed his bad stamina vs Khan and Morales...since then he aint gone past 8 except vs Alexander..which he lost by decision.

How do we know Broner is going to get hit? He got incredible defence.

by The Franchise Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:24 pm

Tire Flloyd out? I aint ever seen that happen..ever...even high volume guys...because Floyd controls the speed of the fight, not the opponant.

Lucas aint going to be able to fight at a high tempo, first because he doesnt move well enough and second, when he tries to get off first he will get countered...its the same story vs Floyd over and over again.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:28 pm

I'd be interested to see what the other fights out there for Floyd if he beats Canelo tbh.

He has signed that deal with Showtime to fight 6 times in 30 months.

After Canelo he would have had 2 of those fights.

I don't see much else out there and afraid that the rest of the fights will be against scrubs to fulfill the contract

by The Franchise Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:52 pm

In boxing, 30 months is quite long..I mean, a year or two from now there will be guys we barely know who will be big time.

If Bradley gets by Marquez he could be up for him, I got a real good feeling about Miguel Vázquez, Mattyse is going to need to be stopped by someone if not Danny García..or Danny Garcia himself...

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:28 pm

I believe floyd will fight the winner of Garcia-Matthysse, so..Lucas is next. Lucas isnt a high volume puncher so i dont see him breaking floyd down. His only chance is to catch floyd with something big. Otherwise Floyd will steamroll past lucas.

Vazquez rofl

Dani pls

by The Franchise Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:01 am

Why you laughing?

He only lost to Canelo and Bradley. But his performances are very impressive, he dominates his fights completely.

Nobody wanted to fight Gesta, he was winning every fight with many KO's...Vasquez totally dominated him.

Same for Prescott some years back, he was unbeaten, knocked Khan into next week..then Vasquez dominated him and he aint looked the same since.

Whats so bad about Vasquez?

by Rebaño Sagrado Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:27 pm

Because its radndom as hell Laughing

I mean Vazquez is so irrelevant I had completely forgot about him.

by The Franchise Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:53 pm

I didnt say he is going to be fighting Flloyd or someone like that next, all im saying is in a few years he could be in that discussion as the way he is fighting now and the experience he already has had.

by Albiceleste Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:50 am

I tuned in for chaves fight but there were great fights on show tonight.

Chaves had a great start to the fight but Thurman started slow and once he began to settle into the fight, Chaves couldn't hit him. Chaves was eventually knocked out in the 10th round after getting hit with a tremendous body shot in the 9th that he was still feeling. Thurman was heavily favorited so this isnt much surprise to those people. poor chaves I am pretty bummed but keith deserved it. dont know whats next for chaves Sad

I had heard about this Figueroa jr kid, was told he had some good power and a potential future big name, so I decided to watch his fight as well, and for me and quite possibly for a lot of others now, it is the fight of the year so far even over Bradley vs provodnikov. It was just an amazing war, this japanese fighter arakawa showed incredible heart and stayed in the fight after getting hit with a lot of big shots, while also delivering his own blows. this japanese guy just did not have an ounce of quit in him, the fight shouldve been stopped by his corner.

soto karass put in a really good fight against berto, even though bertos shoulder was supposedly hurt. soto karass showed a lot of what he showed in the maidana fight. soto karass is a good fighter even if his record suggests otherwise. might be mayweathers next opponent. bertos basically done, hasnt ever won against a good fighter

by The Franchise Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:38 pm

Floyd and Canelo 2moro night.

The closer the fight comes, the more I think Canelo might be the guy to do it....I will say this, if not Canelo, then I dont think anyone will.

On one hand, Floyd could just be too quick for Canelo. I could see it situation where Canelo cant land on Floyd and he is getting picks off on the way in, then Floyd moves his feet and Canelo cant reach him. Plus, Canelo is low volume, so he I really cant see him winning this on points.

But, if Floyd fights like he did vs Cotto, I am almost positive he will lose. Canelo hits way too hard and if he hurts Floyd, he will finish him.

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