Re: Boxing thread

by dmize Thu May 30, 2013 4:53 am

I thought Alvarez wouldn't fight under 154, but supposedly both fighters agreed on 152.

Floyd feeding the fans :bow:

Will be his toughest fight yet no doubt, and at 152 it's going to be a lot tougher for Floyd, but he'll still pull this out I believe.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 12:45 pm

Should be a great fight but i am disappointed about the catch weight.

I am old school and believe the weight classes are there for a reason.

Oh well should be great regardless.

by paddy Thu May 30, 2013 2:20 pm

I take back everything I said about Floyd. This is the best fight that can be made in boxing right now. Don't care about the catchweight, although it seems as though this time last year they meant a lot to Floyd haha

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/138806.html#

by Abramovich Thu May 30, 2013 2:33 pm

Not hyped for this, best fight for Floyd for sure but I think this is going to be pretty one sided unless Saul somehow comes out with Spartan stamina.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 2:38 pm

Abramovich wrote:Not hyped for this, best fight for Floyd for sure but I think this is going to be pretty one sided unless Saul somehow comes out with Spartan stamina.

Perhaps but what fight involving Floyd wouldn't be?

There isn't anyone out there who will give Floyd what you want unless he moves up to middleweight or some shit lol.

by The Franchise Thu May 30, 2013 2:54 pm

Canelo could be a fresher version of Cotto for Floyd...which would be really hard for him.

Not sure Canelo is wiling to attack that aggressively though.

One thing I do know, Canelo is the hardest hitting fighter Flloyd has ever and maybe will ever face.

This should be good unless Canelo tries to out think Floyd and it becomes a chess match.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 3:54 pm

Also i disagree with Abra on it being THAT one sided.....

What people need to understand is come fight night that Canelo will be close to 170 if not 170 and Floyd will be around 150.

I don't care what anyone says that is a huge advantage for Canelo, for this reason i really don't see it being hugely one sided.

I expect Floyd to win but it will be the most competitive fight since De La Hoya IMO.

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 8:13 pm

I wish saul would have waited for this fight. At least till may. Oh well. If he loses its against the best in the world,gets a fat paycheck and gains some experience.

floyds a bitch for that cw

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 8:28 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:I wish saul would have waited for this fight. At least till may. Oh well. If he loses its against the best in the world,gets a fat paycheck and gains some experience.

floyds a bitch for that cw

Like its going to make a difference anyway, at the end of the day Saul is going to be 20 lbs heavier come the night of the fight.

I just don't like catch weights.

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 8:35 pm

tell that to floyd then? He is a champion at 154 isnt he? If he's scared of what Canelo will hydrate to then why not have a rehydration clause. Why mess with the weight limit. His comments on cw's are going to haunt him during the press tour for this fight

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 8:42 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:tell that to floyd then? He is a champion at 154 isnt he? If he's scared of what Canelo will hydrate to then why not have a rehydration clause. Why mess with the weight limit. His comments on cw's are going to haunt him during the press tour for this fight

I just read on ESPN that Canelo's camp were the ones who offered to Floyd to fight at 152.

So its not the same is it? Pacquaio presented that to his opponents.

Meanwhile Floyd was offered it by Canelo's people, so i don't see how you can compare.

Also come fight night Canelo is going to be around 170 and Floyd will be around 150 so i don't see how anyway shape or form you can call Floyd a bitch this time.

Its the complete opposite.

by Eivindo Thu May 30, 2013 8:43 pm

Why watch boxing when one can watch MMA hmm

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 8:56 pm

lmao Thats because floyd didnt want the fight at 154. Some reports said 150. Even Floyd sr said he wanted the fight at welterweight rofl

Canelo had to budge if he wanted to fight floyd. Shit like this is why people hate Floyd.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 9:01 pm

Assumptions are bad.....

Besides what's wrong with wanting it at welterweight?

Floyd is the legend, the best etc etc.... Canelo is the one who should be doing anything he can to make the fight.

Canelo doesn't dictate stipulations, Floyd does.

Its like a rookie going to a world champ and demanding things its not how it works.

Floyd moves up a weight to fight Canelo, something being who he is he doesn't have to do and ya'll haters still hating smh.

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 9:03 pm

Eivindo wrote:Why watch boxing when one can watch MMA

pls go pls

dani pls

dani pls make him go

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 9:08 pm

If you don't see whats wrong with Canelo vs Floyd at welterweight then there is no need to keep this going. You are a fanboy.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 9:32 pm

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:If you don't see whats wrong with Canelo vs Floyd at welterweight then there is no need to keep this going. You are a fanboy.

So Floyd has to come up otherwise he's a bitch and Alvarez doesn't its fine? its you who are the fanboy. ( or more accurately a hater) Laughing

As i said pretenders don't dictate stipulations, i'd understand if it was Sergio Martinez or Pacquaio dictating but its not..... its a 22 year old kid.

Lets look at the facts shall we....

1. Floyd is moving up a weight to make this fight happen.

2. Canelo's people are the ones who put this offer on the table.

Not to mention this.... http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-ill-drop-150-floyd-mayweather-jr--46563 Laughing

So Floyd fights a genuine Jr middleweight at 152 pounds when Floyd is a welterweight and he's a bitch? when he didn't even dictate the stipulation for the catch weight.

Haters are truly hilarious, Floyd could fight Vitali f*cking klitschko and they still be hating.

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 9:43 pm

Floyd has a title at 154. So how exactly is he moving up? yes he is not a natural jr mw, but he has a title that he has to be defended. If he is so scared of 154 why not just drop the title? Why does he insist that he fights at his opponents most comfortable weight class?

can you give me the date of that article pretty please???

any way read thi. Its actually relevant http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-canelo-saul-says-both-sides-budged-on-weight--66075

Before the deal got finalized, there were several stories regarding the weight. Mayweather allegedly demanded weight closer to the welterweight limit of 147, and Canelo wanted their match at 154.

It should be noted that article was written 5/30/13.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu May 30, 2013 9:56 pm

Both fighters wanting to fight at their most comfortable weight shocker Laughing

Also the first paragraph is based on assumptions, the only thing we know is Canelo's people offered to fight at 152.

We don't know if Floyd wanted this or Canelo wanted this there is no facts to support either argument.

Fact of the matter Floyd is coming up from usual 147 to 152 to fight Canelo despite there being an obvious weight advantage for Canelo.

I fail to see how this is a bitch move, he could have easily demanded Canelo come down to his weight class and the fact he is P4P king etc etc i could understand why and dictated it.

After all Floyd doesn't need Canelo, Canelo needs Floyd.

But he didn't do any of that, even if it is at a catch weight its closer to Canelo's preferred weight of 154 than Floyd's 147.

There is nothing bitch move about this.

by LeSwagg James Thu May 30, 2013 10:24 pm

I don't see a big difference between 152 and 154 scratch

.. 2 pounds isn't much of a difference

by The Franchise Thu May 30, 2013 11:08 pm

Ok first of all, MMA? Get that homo erotic ground and pound next dudes ass outta here.

But Reb come on man don't be redicilous.

Flloyd is the one who is fighting more outside his natural weight here you realise that yes? On top if that ther is no usual pre fight weigh in so Canelo obviously going to come in at whatever weight he feels like.

You can't be comparing his to Manny vs Cotto and Oscar where the guys are obviously at a disadvantage.

In the end Canelo himself said "its fair and both sides are happy". Hard to argue when he himself is happy with it.

by Rebaño Sagrado Thu May 30, 2013 11:32 pm

Floyd has fought at 154 twice before ffs How the hell can't he fight Canelo at that weight? If all he's worried about is how much canelo will weigh after he rehydrates then why change the weight limit? Just add a rehydration clause.

And of course Saul is happy lol He is fighting the best. Who doesn't want that.

@swagg floyd said cotto's loss against pacman didn't count because of the cw. The difference was 2lbs

by The Franchise Fri May 31, 2013 10:34 am

He fought at that before..and.....

There is no disadvntage to Canelo here ffs he can weight what he likes...how our comparing to Cotto and Pac idk..Cotto couldn't rehydrate to whatever weight he wanted.

Canelo said he is happy specifically talking about the weight,...

Flloyd is alread fighting more out his natural weight that Canelo and still crying...the hate is too strong.

by RealGunner Fri May 31, 2013 6:36 pm

If Canelo is happy, then the fans should stop worrying about the weight.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 31, 2013 6:56 pm

I still don't like the weight, for a lot reasons but mainly because they are fighting for the 154 title at 152.

That is just wrong IMO and i know it has happened in the past but i just don't support it, if you are going to do a fight with no titles as stake then fine but not for the championship.

by Abramovich Fri May 31, 2013 7:24 pm

I think it's going to be one sided because for me Cannelo just doesn't have the blue print to have a legit chance.

Sure he's got a punchers chance, probably the best fighter Floyd has fought in a LONG time bar Guerro (i.e. a *bleep* up Cotto, a dead Mosley, a finished Oscar etc).

For me to stand a chance of beating Floyd, you need high high pressure and volume. Every time I watch the Hatton fight yes he got mashed up because Hatton got boxed, but Cortez was a gimp and Floyd wasn't handling him that well.

People will call me a Pac fan boy or what ever, but I still concede that even a prime Pac i.e around the time he fought Cotto would have a 45% chance of winning vs Floyd or so.

For me Saul just doesn't have the stamina, I've always been a bit skeptical of him although he did surprise me massively vs Trout which I thought he was going to lose.

Much I'd love him to prove me wrong again, I just don't think he's ready. Aside from Trout looking at the list of fighters he's thought, I'm not impressed.

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