Re: Boxing thread

[The Franchise]

Floyd and Canelo 2moro night.

The closer the fight comes, the more I think Canelo might be the guy to do it....I will say this, if not Canelo, then I dont think anyone will.

On one hand, Floyd could just be too quick for Canelo. I could see it situation where Canelo cant land on Floyd and he is getting picks off on the way in, then Floyd moves his feet and Canelo cant reach him. Plus, Canelo is low volume, so he I really cant see him winning this on points.

But, if Floyd fights like he did vs Cotto, I am almost positive he will lose. Canelo hits way too hard and if he hurts Floyd, he will finish him.

[Blue Barrett]

No chance. Floyd wins

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I feel the opposite.... Canelo is draining just to make the weight.

Had to lose over 5lbs this week which isn't ideal and will effect how hard he can hit.

Also i don't feel Floyd will fight like he did against Cotto, he said after he made some massive errors and wasn't happy at all.... proceeding to correct them in his next camp.

As you say Canelo is too low volume, he can't jump on Floyd and make his weight an issue because he doesn't have the work rate to maintain it.

Honestly the closer the fight gets the more i think Floyd is just going to dance around him all night long ala Sugar Ray and Marvin Hagler.

He's got a punchers chance but i don't see him landing anything significant to make it relevant.

Floyd with a comfortable UD IMO.

[The Franchise]

I dont think the draining thing will be much of an issue. Its not a severe weight loss compared to his usual fights.

Oscar - Pacman, yeah I can (and we did) see the problem there, but not this fight imo.

Not that I disagree with your comments on the fight itself btw.

Just I read alot of people talking like Canelo is some clumsy slowpoke...which he obviously isnt. He is much better technically than people I think, think, and while he isnt super fast, he is accurate and his size gives the deception of slowness.

[Albiceleste]

canelo being drained excuse already

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Nah he isn't.... really with Canelo what you see is what you get.

He's a very well rounded and technically efficient fighter but he's not going to throw anyone off with some fakes.

He's surprisingly good on his back foot, has a very dangerous right hand but he's not going to surprise anyone with his offence.

Its very simple style ( yet effective you have to say) and you would think Floyd is going to adjust quite quickly.

LM why would i use it as an excuse? pretty obvious by now i'm a massive Floyd fanboy is it not?

[Rebaño Sagrado]

Like its going to make a difference anyway,

-Mole on the the cw

I see an easy fight for Floyd. Canelo's stamina is not the best and he stands in front of the opponent too much. Floyd will just pick him apart from the pocket.

Teddy Atlas picked a Canelo decision or a Floyd ko and he made some good points but i dont remember most of them. I'll try and find the video.

The weigh in starts in about 30 minutes btw and its supposedly packed.

Also I'm pick Garcia for the upset.

[Albiceleste]

LM why would i use it as an excuse? pretty obvious by now i'm a massive Floyd fanboy is it not?

i knew it was going to come out at some point tbh, not necessarily from you but still inb4 canelo was a coddled marketing hype job all along

canelos a counter puncher unless he knows hes better. floyd will keep his O tomrrow

[Albiceleste]

for the main event I predict a late round Lucas victory by TKO

[Rebaño Sagrado]

Canelo looked a little weight drained but that was expected. Also Garcia somehow lost half a pound in 30 seconds

[The Franchise]

Angel Garcia (Dannys dad) has been talking mad shit, I hope Lucas knocks his boy into next week.

As for the weight draining/youth excuses, oh no question they are coming.

Before every Floyd fight, you here people give their opinions on how fighter X is good at y and z..but as soon as they are beaten, they were never good to begin with

Its actually hilarious the lengths people go to discredit Floyd at times.

People talk about "who has Floyd beat" but they quickly forgot/dont care about the facts.

When he beat Genaro Hernández all those years ago, nobody mentions the fact he was ranked number 1 in his weight in the world and he was unbeaten.

Diego Corrales, unbeaten and never touched the canvas. He was also ranked number 1 at the time (above Floyd) and one of the best pound for pound. He was back then what Golovkin is now, NOBODY wanted to fight him. He was a 6 foot featherweight...unheard of. And what happened? Knock him down 5 times and won every round.

And on and on like this.

The question to me is, who Floyd hasnt beaten? There are only 3 guys I can think of Tszyu, Margarito and Pacman.

Should of fought these guys at some point I think.

Though, hardly a big deal looking at it now. Tszyu got destroyed by Hatton as he got old real fast (and we saw the difference between Hatton and Floyd) and Pacman has lost 3 times to Marquez (again, we saw the difference between Marquez and Floyd).

Marg is the guy I think realistically could of been a real problem for Floyd.

Tszyu and Pacman already got destroyed by Hatton and

[dmize]

Money Team





Tbh, it wasn't even close. No one's beating Floyd. Can't believe it wasn't unanimous, somebody voted it a draw

Floyd was more attacking than you usually see, made for a more entertaining fight.

[jibers]

No surprise it was a woman that gave that draw. Same wench that screwed Manny when he fought Bradley. Nevada will never remove her as they dont want to come off as incompetent even though it is pretty clear. *bleep* whore

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Looking past Floyd for a moment...

I did say Matthysse is overrated as all f*ck, sure he's got great power but he's so flat footed a good boxer will always beat him.

Just stick and move and its an easy night. Not surprised Garcia beat him at all.

[The Franchise]

Alright its clear, Floyd is too damn good. I dont know how anyone can deny this at this point.

Canelo should have no shame, he thought a decent fight, Floyd is just another level. He really is an all time great.

His shoulder lean and counter straight right is obsurd. Its indefensible, unless you yourself simply dont throw any right hands.

As for Lucas, I felt he too put on a decent show but Danny just got the better of him and the knock down sealed it.

[dmize]

Yeah Canelo hung in there. He took some big time shots and just ate them. Iron jaw.

Had to look up that judge CJ Ross, didn;t know she did Pac-Bradley fight.

[The Franchise]

Yep, shes awful. But honestly, so many of these judges are horrible. Someone scored it to Mayweather by just 4 or something right? That was off too. Canelo won maybe a couple rounds max when Floyd decided to not push the pace and simply dropped the volume to "keep him off me this round".

Canelo will be back though, not for Floyd, but he is legit and isnt going nowhere.

One of him or Glovokin will take Martinez crown sooner or later, perhaps a future battle with Andre Ward.

For good or bad, Broner will take Floyd's place when he is done.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

So what do we think is next for Floyd? still got some fights to run on that showtime contract.

This is probably going to be controversial but if he can beat Marquez i'd like to see him fight Timothy Bradley.

[dmize]

Most likely the Khan/Alexander winner, maybe?

In a year or two I'd like to see Broner get a shot.

[LeSwagg James]

I thought Canelo probably won the 8th round I believe it was, that was about it... De Le Hoya must be crying right now, talking all that shit about giving Canelo the blueprint on how to beat Mayweather

I would like to see Mayweather vs Khan tbh, Khan's hand speed would make it an enjoyable technical fight imo.. If he get's passed Alexander though

[Albiceleste]

Lucas didn't show he was overrated, it was that Garcia was underrated.

before Lucas' eye closed, he was winning the fight and was showing what most who have seen him fight know he is capable of, more than just power.

Even after his eye closed he still was the aggressor of the fight and put a relatively good display, even won a couple rounds at the end. Btw I also found it strange there was no end-swell in his corner, may have had a factor in the fight.

if it was fought 10 times i think lucas wins most of them, but hey that's boxing, its a 50/50 fight and you only get one chance. Garcia deserves credit especially his chin and gameplan, he did what he had to do by fighting a smart fight, managed the distance and temp well and made it hard for lucas to hit cleanly. he fought like a veteran. can't complain about all the low blows clinches and leading with the head, well maybe a little.

all in all, it was what I expected, a close fight. hopefully this isn't the last we will see of Matthysse on the big stage.

as for floyd, i liked how he more offensive, it made for a more entertaining fight than guerreros, tho canelo didnt look much better than guerrero .

its hard think of a possible next opponent for him that isn't a b-lister, even current pacquiao would be better than khan bradley alexander etc. imo

[The Franchise]

So what do we think is next for Floyd? still got some fights to run on that showtime contract.

This is probably going to be controversial but if he can beat Marquez i'd like to see him fight Timothy Bradley.

Yeah, he is next and really the only true ? mark left.

Maybe Danny Garcia too, but I think he will make real easy work of that fight.

[Jack Daniels]

Floyd should just retire. Boxing is just to easy for him. lol

[Abramovich]

Always said the Floyd fight would be one sided and that female judge what an absolute tool.

I'll never like/rate Garcia purely because of his *bleep* of a dad.

There's no one realistically that can fight Floyd now, Pac is finished and too busy playing congressmen and well the other names touted above I really think Floyd will smash them all.

Only one who can give him a little trouble is Khan but he will end up eating a counter and enjoying a good sleep.

[El Gunner]

He won't get beaten now will he...
Not that I ever thought Alvarez would beat Mayweather, he is just too damn good. His speed and balance is just crazy. It is a perfect platform for his fighting style - defend and counter-punch effectively.

[El Gunner]

^^^needless to say. We all know that by now.

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