How highly do you rate Godzalo Higuain?

Gomez>Cavani>Benz>Higuain>Falcao>RVP

Both Higuain and Benzema are poor man's Cavani.

Cavani is the best CF in the world at present.

izzy26 wrote:

Iceman wrote:Very very different. Let's just leave it at that

RVP is more in the mould of the guy in your avatar. That's the type of striker you rate higher huh?

Iceman = Bergkamp.

Yup. I still have trouble saying that Henry is better than Bergkamp haha. Even though they were both more than just strikers, I think Bergkamp was more well rounded and creative than Henry.

In my opinion, vision and creativity are really underrated. For a striker to have those abilities (such as RVP and Bergkamp), to the extent that you might even think about playing them as the main creators in your team, then that's a HUGE plus. That's my take on it

Zlatan Ibrahimovic>>>>Benzema.

No comparison

All I hear when people rate Benzema: Potential. Like Arsenal fans when we defend VP: if not for injuries.

That pizza comment was awesome though

Higuain has a history of benching supposed to be better players throw out his career lol.

Raul,RVN,Huntelar.....

Next is benz on the line

Sushi Master wrote:All I hear when people rate Benzema: Potential. Like Arsenal fans when we defend VP: if not for injuries.

That pizza comment was awesome though

31, 23 and 26. Number of goals in seasons where he's started more than half the games for his club. He's only been a pro for 4 full seasons btw. Was mostly on the bench his 1st year at Madrid (his own fault).

It's great to be one of the best and still have potential to be much better. That's the point here.

sportsczy wrote:

Zealous wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Yeah Z... when Benz & lyon would walk all over us and he was scoring against Man U and the likes, Higuain was eating pizza from his house while watching the game.

The only guy eating pizza was Benzema when he made the switch to here. Watching him fight obesity was embarrassing to say the least.

I like how scoring against Man U in a game Lyon didn't even win is an achievement now. Higuain has never even played against them so how is that supposed to convince me? LOL

Besides with Frei getting a brace at Old Trafford Benz's goal loses some of it's shine.

If Higuain would score against the teams Madrid were supposed to beat easily (i.e. Lyon), maybe he would play against the big boys. When you miss wide open goals at home and don't make up for it, it's pizza time. Good times for pizza parlors in Madrid prior to Mou.

Except Man Utd and Lyon faced each other in the round of 16 when Benz scored LOL

Also how is blaming Higuain for Real Madrid underachieving in any way shape or form coherent? Especially since we were underachieving since before he even came here. If anything Higuain is one of the men responsible for the club's resurgence as a whole, his role may have been relatively minor but he was part of why the club bounced back from the lows of 2005.

It's frakking hard to judge strikers at Madrid with all the constant switching and benching. These guys are still young and under the shadow of Ronaldo.

So let's all reach a logical conclusion:

Raul > ALL.

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

Iceman wrote:RVP > Higuain

/thread

Call me when RVP actually completes a season or scored 20 league goals in a season......

I dont care if RVP is more talented he hasnt proved it on a consistent basis, talent is overrated especially when you dont back up that talent with consistent performance.......

Pato > Higuain by that logic

Why would someone even bring up RVP? It has NOTHING to do with this thread not to mention they are totally different players. Go start a thread in the Right back or Arsenal Section if you must. This thread is about rating Higgy and Benz and has nothing to do with Arsenal the EPL or RVP.

I have always rated Higgy very highly and I think some people do forget his incredible pace as he is not just a poacher. People also forget Higgy was a strait up beast in 08 and 09 seasons when some other GREAT players on Madrid were not showing up he was winning them games and keeping them in the race with Barca somewhat single handedly and Madrid always seem to want to replace him for whatever reason.

He is more one dimensional then Benz but at the end of the day they are both strikers and to me Higgy is a more pure goal scorer while Benz just doesn't put up the assists to make up for that. It's close and I believe if Higgy had a team looking for him always and somewhat built around him like Benz at Lyon in the French League then Higgy would put up crazy goal's per season numbers. Higgy has never had that as he has always had to somewhat scrap for goals while at Madrid as there has always been another "big dog" the team was more built around.

With all that being said, I'm glad to see he is in great form but people do tend to forget how absolutely shocking his form was in Copa America. I mean Messi, Kun and others put him strait through on goal a bunch of times and he s*** the bed. But I don't really blame him for that as you can't blame one person for that Argentina team as it was such a train wreck and the same goes for Brazil in that Tourney.

Arquitecto wrote:Zlatan Ibrahimovic>>>>Benzema.

No comparison

I agree but Zlatan is a much more established player. Benzema can reach higher levels (although I think Benz should play as an SS, not a CF)

Sportsczy, dont forget Higuain has scored before against Barcelona

3 atm 4 if you count the disallowed goal

So with that comment Higuain > Benzema

And the game where Real Madrid completly dominated Barca (4-1) he scored. When Madrid dominated Barca in Santiago he missed 2 sitters

Iceman wrote:Yup. I still have trouble saying that Henry is better than Bergkamp haha. Even though they were both more than just strikers, I think Bergkamp was more well rounded and creative than Henry.

In my opinion, vision and creativity are really underrated. For a striker to have those abilities (such as RVP and Bergkamp), to the extent that you might even think about playing them as the main creators in your team, then that's a HUGE plus. That's my take on it

I see what you mean. I love Henry but something about Bergkamp always made him seem more special to me. He was able to adopt a deeper role almost like a SS posing as a CAM. His abilty to get the best out of his teammates was brilliant. Ian Wright and Henry are testament to this.

For me it depends on what system you want your team to play when deciding between Bergkamp and Henry. If you want your striker to drop deep and link the midfield with the attack,then it's Bergkamp but Henry was close. What was his number of assists in the PL again?

Iceman wrote:

izzy26 wrote:

Iceman wrote:Very very different. Let's just leave it at that

RVP is more in the mould of the guy in your avatar. That's the type of striker you rate higher huh?

Iceman = Bergkamp.

Yup. I still have trouble saying that Henry is better than Bergkamp haha. Even though they were both more than just strikers, I think Bergkamp was more well rounded and creative than Henry.

In my opinion, vision and creativity are really underrated. For a striker to have those abilities (such as RVP and Bergkamp), to the extent that you might even think about playing them as the main creators in your team, then that's a HUGE plus. That's my take on it

I agree with you here, my point was more on who is the better striker but ofcourse RVP is a better player.....

I am glad you mentioned Bergkamp and Henry btw because i have always felt that Bergkamp is the reason Henry became the legend that he did.....

Eto'o >>>>> all tho

Spoiler:

Zealous wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:Zlatan Ibrahimovic>>>>Benzema.

No comparison

I agree but Zlatan is a much more established player. Benzema can reach higher levels (although I think Benz should play as an SS, not a CF)

lol just trolling.

People don't realize Zlatan is a 10# and not a pure goal scorer.

I agree on the benz comment as he can be more exploited as an SS while Higgy plays off of him

Zealous wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

Zealous wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Yeah Z... when Benz & lyon would walk all over us and he was scoring against Man U and the likes, Higuain was eating pizza from his house while watching the game.

The only guy eating pizza was Benzema when he made the switch to here. Watching him fight obesity was embarrassing to say the least.

I like how scoring against Man U in a game Lyon didn't even win is an achievement now. Higuain has never even played against them so how is that supposed to convince me? LOL

Besides with Frei getting a brace at Old Trafford Benz's goal loses some of it's shine.

If Higuain would score against the teams Madrid were supposed to beat easily (i.e. Lyon), maybe he would play against the big boys. When you miss wide open goals at home and don't make up for it, it's pizza time. Good times for pizza parlors in Madrid prior to Mou.

Except Man Utd and Lyon faced each other in the round of 16 when Benz scored LOL

Also how is blaming Higuain for Real Madrid underachieving in any way shape or form coherent? Especially since we were underachieving since before he even came here. If anything Higuain is one of the men responsible for the club's resurgence as a whole, his role may have been relatively minor but he was part of why the club bounced back from the lows of 2005.

Players play the games Z. Benzema didn't have the talent around him of a Madrid or a lot of others at Lyon and he still performed at a top, top level (12 goals in 19 CL games for Lyon and 20 goals in 34 appearances overall). Madrid underachieved because its players underachieved... Higuain is part of the group, no? Also, Higuain has 4 goals in 29 appearances in CL, all with Madrid. My work is done. Next!!!!!!

Higuain has had to fight for scraps his entire career. He was handed nothing. Build a team around him and watch him rack the goals up.

RM strikers will always be underrated because of Cristiano wanting to bang in all the goals.

@dnmac

The title of this thread is "How highly do you rate Godzalo Higuain". I said that I rate RVP higher than him, which is 100% relevant to this thread. If you want to make an unnecessary rant that is faulty, then go start your own thread in the RB section; otherwise, shut up.

@izzy26
I gotta look up that stat. Hold on, I'll fetch it for you.

Sushi Master wrote:RM strikers will always be underrated because of Cristiano wanting to bang in all the goals.

Tbh I feel so aswell but lately he has shown he is willing to provide I hope it stays. It can get annoying when he gets mad over not passing him

Will never happen Z. Gomez is the best poacher out there and he is much, much more complete than Higuain in other aspects... and Bayern is built around Ribery and Robben, not Gomez.

You cannot build around a poacher. It's not possible. Poachers are completely reliant and having very good creative talent around them to give them final balls. By definition, they feed on the scraps.

Fernando Llorente > Benzema and Higuian combined......



They definitely could'nt make a splash like him

Zealous wrote:Higuain has had to fight for scraps his entire career. He was handed nothing. Build a team around him and watch him rack the goals up.

Juande ramos' final season a prime example.

That season to me made me a huge fan of the man.
He had nothing around him.

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Fernando Llorente > Benzema and Higuian combined......



They definitely could'nt make a splash like him

I actually agree. Seriously.

LLorente >>>>>>>>all target man in the world.

LLorente=100000xCarrol

Beat that mole.

sportsczy wrote:Players play the games Z. Benzema didn't have the talent around him of a Madrid or a lot of others at Lyon and he still performed at a top, top level (12 goals in 19 CL games for Lyon and 20 goals in 34 appearances overall). Madrid underachieved because its players underachieved... Higuain is part of the group, no? Also, Higuain has 4 goals in 29 appearances in CL, all with Madrid. My work is done. Next!!!!!!

Can't agree with that sports.
In higgys first season here he was not even a starter and when he did come on he was out wide. He made a great contribution to that epic league win in 06/07 and was great for the next 3 seasons.

It wasn't a fantastci period for us but it wasn't just down to the players, the core of the club was completly destroyed. We were in dire constraints amd the heirarchy had a massive role in that.

Higgy has been one the leaders of this new era and has come leaps and bounds in the years he has been here. No doubt he will improve and so will Benz but to just blame the players for our horror period was low and you know it man.