How highly do you rate Godzalo Higuain?

Iceman wrote:
He scored 18 league goals in half a season, matching the record by Henry and C.Ronaldo. 22 goals in half a season in total. Doesn't need to prove anything anymore

Iceman wrote:
Stats aren't everything

Argument reversal ftw

Crimson wrote:

Crimson wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Have i mentioned that, statistically, Benz is more efficient than Higuain throughout his career and has scored a ton more goals? Just wanted to throw it out there.

He does it from different areas of the field because of his style. you don;t want Benz to only attack the box and poach... same goes for Rooney, tevez, Aguero, etc. Goeez and Higuain, sure. But Gomez is 100x better at linkup than Higuain.

Source?

Last I checked Higuain had scored 110 goals for club and country in 236 appearances. The first 4/5 seasons of which he played as an orthodox winger.

Benzema on the other hand has scored 119 goals in 280 appearances for club and country. Playing as a striker and the focal point of Lyon for the most part......

Ahem!

Because of Domenech, i didn't really consider France NT. He used him like a lunatic, like everyone else. Just looked at club. I also have a spreadsheet that i developed over the years (i'm crazy), where i separate goals per start and goals as a substitute. Also, goals per mins played. Goals per appearance is a bit misleading to me.

Regardless, i know Benzema has scored more for club.

Did anyone else see the Riquelme-esque nutmeg he did to Jara? Left him looking like an idiot

So apparently, after years of rewarding Madrid as even being the shining star under juande ramos' last year, Gonzalo Higuin is now out of favor to a formerly fat and unmotivated Benzema who has performed only one season (or half a season?) so far for Madrid.

sportsczy wrote:

Zealous wrote:

sportsczy wrote:

Zealous wrote:LOL Mamad I'm sorry but how many games has Benzema helped us win vs Barca?

You can say that about everyone who joined from 2009-2010 on. Anyone who watched the supercup saw how much impact Benzema had on the game. CR7 was lost again and Benzema had to pick up his playmaking duties.

He should have been picking up his goal scoring duties. Those two sitters he missed with his head in the first leg cost us the tie if you think about it.

Also we beat them in the Copa, a game he didn't even play in.

His two assists and goal saved us. it's amazing that higuain fanboys focus on the mistakes of Benz rather than his brilliance. He missed a goal and assisted the goal from the ensuing corner. Btw, are you saying that Higuain is more clutch then Benz? Because this argument you will lose by a mile... there are so many examples out there that you don't want to go there Z. You know it better than I. Higuain has been useless in CL. Only place he's shined is La Liga.

A real Madrid striker lives and dies by the amount of chances he can put away. Benzema makes those two headers we are up 3-0 at the Bernabeu. The timing made all the difference. He missed a goal but assisted one if he weren't playing as Centre Forward that would great, problem is he isn't on the team to assist goals.

Higuain has been "useless' has he? Most of his CL games have come with him as winger. When he played as CF for the first time it was in one of the worst preforming Real Madrid sides ever.

Now Jose has come he's finally in a situation where he can flourish, problem is he got an injury at a bad time. Had he continued he would have scored a fair amount I would think. Having already scored vs Ajax and Milan and even Barca when he came back (not even at 100%).

But hey all hail Benz conqueror of French teams in the CL (Auxerre, Lyon) what would we have done without him

Iceman wrote:

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

Iceman wrote:RVP > Higuain

/thread

Call me when RVP actually completes a season or scored 20 league goals in a season......

I dont care if RVP is more talented he hasnt proved it on a consistent basis, talent is overrated especially when you dont back up that talent with consistent performance.......

Pato > Higuain by that logic

He scored 18 league goals in half a season, matching the record by Henry and C.Ronaldo. 22 goals in half a season in total. Doesn't need to prove anything anymore

Half of season of consistent form dont impress me......

I fully understand that RVP is more talented and does for more for the team other than goals, but when comparing strikers i only care about the goals as thats what they are there to do......

Higuian has scored 71 in his last 100 and a bit games and provided 21 more assists.....

As i said RVP maybe more talented but hasnt backed up that talent with consistent enough performances while Higuian has done so for last 4 seasons even last season when he was a bit part player and still recovering from that awful spinal injury managed to score 13 goals and created 6 more in 25 appearences.....

Obviously our take on what a striker should be rated on is different.....

Yeah Z... when Benz & lyon would walk all over us and he was scoring against Man U and the likes, Higuain was eating pizza from his house while watching the game.

when la liga is back....dis gon be gud


Honestly though, i really dont see Mou starting benz and Higuain together

Adit wrote:

Iceman wrote:
He scored 18 league goals in half a season, matching the record by Henry and C.Ronaldo. 22 goals in half a season in total. Doesn't need to prove anything anymore

Iceman wrote:
Stats aren't everything

Argument reversal ftw

These posts make are not contradicting in any way if they are taken into context...

Crimson wrote:Also to throw cat into the pigeons on the Benzema creative debate


Higuain has 43 assists in 217 club appearances

Benzema has 34 assists in 240 club appearences

*whistles innocently*

But. but Higuain can only score a goal or he is useless!! [CITATION NEEDED]

Ah, this debate has spilled from the Madrid section to here.

Cool.

Real Madrid section this way -------------------------------->

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Half of season of consistent form dont impress me......

I fully understand that RVP is more talented and does for more for the team other than goals, but when comparing strikers i only care about the goals as thats what they are there to do......

Higuian has scored 71 in his last 100 and a bit games and provided 21 more assists.....

As i said RVP maybe more talented but hasnt backed up that talent with consistent enough performances while Higuian has done so for last 4 seasons even last season when he was a bit part player and still recovering from that awful spinal injury managed to score 13 goals and created 6 more in 25 appearences.....

Obviously our take on what a striker should be rated on is different.....

Very very different. Let's just leave it at that

Mole... Benz was benched. Hard to perform when on the bench. in his professional career, benzema has been a starter for 3 seasons (really 1/2 a season with Madrid). In this 3 season, he's scored 31, 23 and 26 goals. The one season he was benched for most of it (2009/2010) he had 9.

That's very consistent to me, especially when you consider he's 23.

izzy26 wrote:Ah, this debate has spilled from the Madrid section to here.

Cool.

And with the help of me and Iceman it has expanded to........

RVP V BENZ V PIPITA

GEN SECTION

I am reading this thread with interest.

Iceman wrote:Very very different. Let's just leave it at that

RVP is more in the mould of the guy in your avatar. That's the type of striker you rate higher huh?

Iceman = Bergkamp.

Zealous wrote:

Crimson wrote:Also to throw cat into the pigeons on the Benzema creative debate


Higuain has 43 assists in 217 club appearances

Benzema has 34 assists in 240 club appearences

*whistles innocently*

But. but Higuain can only score a goal or he is useless!! [CITATION NEEDED]

see nicks comment. by your standards, di maria is a great creative player and passer then lol. again, stats + pitch impact + scope of game. that's the measurements of a player.

sportsczy wrote:Yeah Z... when Benz & lyon would walk all over us and he was scoring against Man U and the likes, Higuain was eating pizza from his house while watching the game.

The only guy eating pizza was Benzema when he made the switch to here. Watching him fight obesity was embarrassing to say the least.

I like how scoring against Man U in a game Lyon didn't even win is an achievement now. Higuain has never even played against them so how is that supposed to convince me? LOL

Besides with Frei getting a brace at Old Trafford Benz's goal loses some of it's shine.

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

izzy26 wrote:Ah, this debate has spilled from the Madrid section to here.

Cool.

And with the help of me and Iceman it has expanded to........

RVP V BENZ V PIPITA

GEN SECTION

Let us bring Cavani,Falcao and Gomez into it shall we !

Immaculate_Mole wrote:And with the help of me and Iceman it has expanded to........

RVP V BENZ V PIPITA

GEN SECTION

I think if you try really hard, you could slip Best aka Drizze into the arguement.

Zealous wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Yeah Z... when Benz & lyon would walk all over us and he was scoring against Man U and the likes, Higuain was eating pizza from his house while watching the game.

The only guy eating pizza was Benzema when he made the switch to here. Watching him fight obesity was embarrassing to say the least.

I like how scoring against Man U in a game Lyon didn't even win is an achievement now. Higuain has never even played against them so how is that supposed to convince me? LOL

Besides with Frei getting a brace at Old Trafford Benz's goal loses some of it's shine.

If Higuain would score against the teams Madrid were supposed to beat easily (i.e. Lyon), maybe he would play against the big boys. When you miss wide open goals at home and don't make up for it, it's pizza time. Good times for pizza parlors in Madrid prior to Mou.

Falcao is the best CF in La Liga imho.......

AND GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RVP is poor man Benzema

Gomez>Cavani>Benz>Higuain>Falcao>RVP