Why English players don't play for leagues outside the EPL???

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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:24 pm

Michael Mancienne in hamburger

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Post by BIG$PETER Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:25 pm

Cole and beckham were the only two i could get
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Post by S Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:25 pm

mtfootball wrote:
Surag wrote:Beckham's the obvious one although he's semi-retired.

Hoilett will play for BMG next season.

Joe Cole plays for Lille but his loan spell finished i think.

Thats about it really Laughing

Hoilett's Canadian. :coffee:

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I think one would love to see Wilshere play overseas since he's so very technically gifted perhaps at Barcelona hmm
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Post by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:48 pm

Theres that fella Bayern signed from the championship team a wile back.

Dunno if he is anywhere near the team though
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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:54 pm

His names Dale Jennings, he plays for the reserve team I think.

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Post by drakefyre Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:32 pm

Scott Carson, Francis Jeffers
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Post by The Messiah Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:37 pm

Hargreaves still the best England player to play oversee in recent years alongside David Beckham
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Post by punkfusion1992 Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:35 pm

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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:41 pm

thought he retired
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Post by punkfusion1992 Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:43 pm

RealGunner wrote:thought he retired

ofcourse he did but people were mentioning Beckham and Hargreaves as being the best ever, and well Macca was definitely better than both
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Post by RedOranje Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:45 pm

punkfusion1992 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:thought he retired

ofcourse he did but people were mentioning Beckham and Hargreaves as being the best ever, and well Macca was definitely better than both
One poster did (and it was Messiah at that) so not "people".
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:47 pm

Pennant was playing for Zaragoza a while ago.

That Chelsea defender plays for Hamburg...I think it was him I saw playing against Sahlke, forgot his name tho.
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Post by rwo power Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:53 pm

If you mean Jeffrey Bruma - he's Dutch. ^^
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Post by S Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:54 pm

rwo power wrote:If you mean Jeffrey Bruma - he's Dutch. ^^

Micheal Mancienne..

Rg posted above.
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Post by McAgger Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:11 am

Michael Owen played for Madrid awhile back Very Happy lol I don't even think I can name 10 English players of all time that played outside of EPL.
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Post by stunt Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:36 am

dat british raw talent >>

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Post by The Messiah Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:09 am

RedOranje wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:thought he retired

ofcourse he did but people were mentioning Beckham and Hargreaves as being the best ever, and well Macca was definitely better than both
One poster did (and it was Messiah at that) so not "people".

Last time I checked, I clearly said best in recent years.

also Hargreaves and Beckham are not retired
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Post by lszanto Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:34 am

The reasons to me that we have few Englishmen overseas would be:


  • Any quality English player will have already been snapped up by one of the big 4
  • The lack of talent in England
  • If they are going to move overseas it would have to be to a top club and most English players are not good enough for a top 3/4 club
  • Not willing to move away from family/native language
  • Already happy where they live
  • Most English players probably believe they are playing in the best league in the world
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Post by barca 2011 Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:36 am

You'd think that with all of them always playing either against or alongside each other that the NT would be somewhat better wouldn't you?
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Post by lszanto Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:40 am

barca 2011 wrote:You'd think that with all of them always playing either against or alongside each other that the NT would somewhat better wouldn't you?

Depends, i'd say this only really rings true for players playing at the same club. You look at Spain or Germany and the bulk of their players are coming from the best 2-3 teams in the country yet the majority of the English squad comes from Liverpool who finished 8th domestically.

Guess you could say you'd expect more from Young/Welbeck/Rooney but Young didn't turn up.
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Post by rwo power Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:21 am

lszanto wrote:The reasons to me that we have few Englishmen overseas would be:

  • Any quality English player will have already been snapped up by one of the big 4
  • The lack of talent in England
  • If they are going to move overseas it would have to be to a top club and most English players are not good enough for a top 3/4 club
  • Not willing to move away from family/native language
  • Already happy where they live
  • Most English players probably believe they are playing in the best league in the world
I think the most important thing is:

  • They earn more in an English club than in a continental club (from what I gather, even younger English EPL players are paid pretty well, while for example in the Bundesliga the wages for young players are comparatively modest.)
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Post by lszanto Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:30 am

rwo power wrote:
lszanto wrote:The reasons to me that we have few Englishmen overseas would be:

  • Any quality English player will have already been snapped up by one of the big 4
  • The lack of talent in England
  • If they are going to move overseas it would have to be to a top club and most English players are not good enough for a top 3/4 club
  • Not willing to move away from family/native language
  • Already happy where they live
  • Most English players probably believe they are playing in the best league in the world
I think the most important thing is:

  • They earn more in an English club than in a continental club (from what I gather, even younger English EPL players are paid pretty well, while for example in the Bundesliga the wages for young players are comparatively modest.)

Totally forgot that one! Was discussing it with my Dad the other day and mentioned that but forgot to write it down.

It's something to do with taxes aswelll isn't it?
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:58 am

60 million ppl, no talents :bow: with all this infrastructure, money, tradition and London being fin capital and investment center of the world :bow:

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Post by rwo power Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:59 am

lszanto wrote:It's something to do with taxes aswelll isn't it?
Well, in Germany almost half of the brutto income of higher incomes is slashed by taxes, yes.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:02 am

RealGunner wrote:Michael Mancienne in hamburger
Sad
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Post by rwo power Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:11 am

Barrettinator wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Michael Mancienne in hamburger
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o_O When did that happen? Was it at McDonald's or Burger King? And was it Messi's fault?
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