Re: La Liga 2023/24

by halamadrid2 Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:01 pm

Pedram wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about Vinicius' highlight of the game being dragged of by Carlo like a kindergartener

Will he ever escape Araujo's pocket?
You mean like when he assisted Araujo's own goals or when he turned him inside out until he became dizzy on our way to the Copa trophy.

Vini is not in the best moment right now and his shenanigans is tiring out us Madrid fans. But Araujo following Vini around like baby is big part of the reason why the game turned in our favour. Camavinga was taking advantage of the acres of space Araujo was leaving as he was following Vini who wouldn't have scored even if you put a pole in front of him. Looks like that startegy didn't work out in the end.

Forget Vini, every team should triple mark Bellingham, dude has insane goalscoring instinct, he just knows where to be at the right time and place.

That'll probably happen next season when teams start to study his movements.

by Perucho21 Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:24 am

But I was told by Barca fans that Jude is just a tap in merchant and that you need to make 5 billion side passes per game to be considered world class

Am i the only one that thinks Barcas youngsters are overrated as fuck? Barca PR again overrating the shit outta their youngsters. Balde (continues to live in Carvajals pocket) is the spanish Emerson Royal and Cama as a midfielder is leagues ahead as a LB. and Guler will show Yamal, who only knows how to do a couple of side steps and backpasses, how to truly boss teams as a teenager.

What a performance by Captain Carvajal.

by Myesyats Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:36 am

Perucho21 wrote:But I was told by Barca fans that Jude is just a tap in merchant and that you need to make 5 billion side passes per game to be considered world class

Am i the only one that thinks Barcas youngsters are overrated as fuck? Barca PR again overrating the shit outta their youngsters. Balde (continues to live in Carvajals pocket) is the spanish Emerson Royal and Cama as a midfielder is leagues ahead as a LB. and Guler will show Yamal, who only knows how to do a couple of side steps and backpasses, how to truly boss teams as a teenager.

What a performance by Captain Carvajal.

I'd wager you did not watch the game lmao because Barca played way better and Fermin should've killed the game off earlier, you were lucky.

You couldnt even create chances, the only way was to score from 30 yards out and you luckily did

by Vibe Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:46 am

Fermin was very timid with that shot, I think they thought it was a foul by Gavi because I think the ref put the whistle in his mouth but didn't blow it.

A small detail but decisive perhaps.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:18 am

Ia Fermin the new Balde Laughing

Yh we didn't play well at all, we took advantage of Barca tiring and our fresh guys from the bench and also Barca's terrible subs. Both Lewa and Romeu were shocking.

The jury ia still out on Felix, seems to have gone cold after an explosive start.

by farfan Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:36 am

Perucho21 wrote:

Am i the only one that thinks Barcas youngsters are overrated as fuck? Barca PR again overrating the shit outta their youngsters

I've been saying this for years Laughing

For all their talk about Madrid's supposed PR machine, theirs is always working overtime. Every year some new shiny Masia toy is hyped up as the next big thing and the footballing world at large just goes with it for a while.

by futbol_bill Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:35 pm

They may be over hyped, but there isn’t doubt that are continually producing good players, much more than we are. All of Pedri, Gavi, Balde and now Yamal have proven to be good players. While we can easily argue that we also have good proven youngsters, none of ours are from our academy.

by Myesyats Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:41 pm

It's more like madrid fans freaking out over nothing because of their crippling insecurity. Nobody is hyping Fermin, there are more posts from madridistas about this supposed hype than actual hype posts. And the "hype thread" about Yamal was started by Vibe, not by barca fans.

Where was Vinicius, Fede, Fran Garcia, Tchouameni? 40 y/o modric needs to save the day again and again. At least barcas youngsters are homegrown not 100m+ toys.

by Pedram Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:51 pm

Myesyats wrote: At least barcas youngsters are homegrown not 100m+ toys.

As if Barca don't spend big on players.

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by futbol_bill Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:04 pm

Myesyats wrote:It's more like madrid fans freaking out over nothing because of their crippling insecurity. Nobody is hyping Fermin, there are more posts from madridistas about this supposed hype than actual hype posts. And the "hype thread" about Yamal was started by Vibe, not by barca fans.

Where was Vinicius, Fede, Fran Garcia, Tchouameni? 40 y/o modric needs to save the day again and again. At least barcas youngsters are homegrown not 100m+ toys.

Did you hear Gundongan’s criticism of his teammates? He attacked their attitude. That in a nutshell is the difference between the two clubs! While we continually win with never give up attitude, your team sit back with the lead. To me it isn’t an issue of talent, both teams have good squads, it’s what Gundogan is pointing out!

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:08 pm

futbol_bill wrote:They may be over hyped, but there isn’t doubt that are continually producing good players, much more than we are. All of Pedri, Gavi, Balde and now Yamal have proven to be good players. While we can easily argue that we also have good proven youngsters, none of ours are from our academy.

That's not because they don't have the quality. Arribas for example could easily be starting for us on the right but we don't seem to trust our youngsters. Funnily enough it was ZZ who used to play them. Carlo has just ignored the lot of them. Tbh if Carlo coule have his way we woild be starting KCM today

by farfan Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm

Myesyats wrote:It's more like madrid fans freaking out over nothing because of their crippling insecurity. Nobody is hyping Fermin, there are more posts from madridistas about this supposed hype than actual hype posts. And the "hype thread" about Yamal was started by Vibe, not by barca fans.

Where was Vinicius, Fede, Fran Garcia, Tchouameni? 40 y/o modric needs to save the day again and again. At least barcas youngsters are homegrown not 100m+ toys.

The culture of over hyping Masia players and being overly optimistic about their potential has nothing to do with Madrid. This forum is mostly dead so you're not going to get a good gauge of Barça fan sentiments on here. I remember when Barça fans genuinely thought Puig-Alena was going to be the midfield of the future, and Puig's thread on Barcaforum was the most active on the site Laughing

It's hard to believe now, but they did the same for Sergi Roberto at some point. Ansu Fati is another example of an unreasonably hyped prospect that didn't quite pan out.

And it's not just current youth players. Both Barça fans and management have this fixation on "bringing back" former Masia players and fielding a majority-homegrown lineup even if it doesn't make sense football wise. It's how you ended up chasing Fabregas for years even thought he clearly didn't fit, it's why many Barça fans obsessed over Bellerin for years despite his obvious technical deficiencies, and it's why you ended up signing a dud like Romeu when better alternatives can be found elsewhere.

The Madrid players you mentioned have all surpassed their Barça counterpart in terms of accomplishments. Fede, Vinicius, and Camavinga were intergral to a CL winning campaign and Tchou was an important piece in a team that reached a WC final.

by Vibe Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Vibe wrote:At least Carlo didn't have him anchor the midfield, it never works
I think it's finally gotten into his head now after we got smashed by Atleti.

Tchouameni injured for 2 months, prepare for Kroos. Will probably work vs small teams though.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:18 pm

Myesyats wrote:It's more like madrid fans freaking out over nothing because of their crippling insecurity. Nobody is hyping Fermin, there are more posts from madridistas about this supposed hype than actual hype posts. And the "hype thread" about Yamal was started by Vibe, not by barca fans.

Where was Vinicius, Fede, Fran Garcia, Tchouameni? 40 y/o modric needs to save the day again and again. At least barcas youngsters are homegrown not 100m+ toys.

Valverde actually had a great game scratch

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:58 pm

Vibe wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Vibe wrote:At least Carlo didn't have him anchor the midfield, it never works
I think it's finally gotten into his head now after we got smashed by Atleti.

Tchouameni injured for 2 months, prepare for Kroos. Will probably work vs small teams though.

Yh we have a few hoke games coming up against lower level teams. Perfect for someone like Kroos. Problem is when he plays great there he'll start the big games too.

by Firenze Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:12 pm

Barcelona midfielder Ilkay Gundogan has hit out at the dressing room reaction after Saturday's 2-1 defeat to Real Madrid in El Clasico, saying he expected to see "more frustration, more anger and more disappoinment" after such an important loss.

The former Manchester City midfielder cut a frustrated figure at full time and after the match, he was asked by LaLiga TV if the mood in the Barça dressing room was low after the loss.

"I have to be honest, not as much as I wish because I don't want to say something wrong, but I was in the dressing room and of course people are disappointed," the German said.
"But especially after such a big game and a result that is so unnecessary, I wish for more frustration, more anger and more disappointment. This is a little bit the problem.

"There has to be more emotion, especially when you lose and when you know you can perform better, do better in certain situations and you just don't react.
"It transfers to the pitch at the end of the day. We need to make a huge step in that because otherwise Real Madrid or even Girona are going to run away and I didn't come here to lose this type of game or to let a gap create."

by Myesyats Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:02 pm

It's absolutely true that we lack mentality in many big games. I was disappointed with the teams' response after the tide turned against them in the 2nd half, even though overall it was quite a good performance. Gundo's words are important in the sense that Barca's captains and leaders rarely ever respond that strongly after important losses, so it's a nice change of pace. These are words that everyone on the team needed to hear. I think the league is still well within our reach, and last season we've won the second clasico fixture so that loss wasnt the end of the world, but it was a game we certainly shouldn't have lost

by Clutch Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:56 pm

Is he kind of assuming based off physical reactions bc people digest losses differently. Just bc you're not throwing a chair or punching a locker in frustration doesn't mean you don't care. I bet messi looks calm after a loss but that doesn't mean he doesn't care.

by halamadrid2 Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:54 pm

MATS with a prime Iker performance. The only reason Barca are still in this game. Kubo absolutely amazing, LaReal are fun to watch

by BarcaLearning Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:16 pm

Think our problem is trying to press up front with old Lewand n pushing Fermin alongside him in 4-4-2, also Felix arent much of a presser so we have being bossed in midfield with old Gundo n Gavi trying to do everything himself lol... not much choice though atm, Omenu rightly dropped lately cos he sucks, n we have no one left... Real Soc are always strong in midfield anyway so not surprised... lucky La Liga teams lack up front as usual that its still 0-0 Razz

by BarcaLearning Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:18 pm

Lets see if Pedri cant save us somehow Razz

by BarcaLearning Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:20 pm

Think the camera showed Inigo carrying a piece of paper with instructions? Thats allowed? Lol....

by halamadrid2 Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:28 pm

Lmfao how the f was that not a penalty

by BarcaLearning Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:49 pm

Gavi suspended next match for yet another stupid yellow.... lucky Pedri back just in time, otherwise would be stuck with Romeu

by Firenze Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:53 pm

barca steal it

by Myesyats Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:54 pm

Pedri is goated. The king is back

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