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Post by RealGunner Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:22 am

From 2018-19, top 4 leagues will have 16 guaranteed spots in CL. UEFA ExCo to approve late August.
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Post by rwo power Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:27 am

From what I gathered, this will greatly disadvantage the smaller leagues. I read that the Swiss have already been going ballistic about this for some days.

And the 4th place of the big 4 will go to some "historically valuable club" however they will calculate that.
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:31 am

Disgraceful, just another way to guarantee "Big Teams" make it to the group stages. Another step before a Super League.

Good for Serier A though.
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Post by Adit Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:32 am

Boo hoo... Serie A can't win it back so they changed the rules Laughing

More scrubs in cl
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Post by nasir6371 Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:35 am

@rwo

That was a rumor about a wild cards for historical merit to make sure teams like Milan and Liverpool can make the UCL Laughing

So I team like Spurs can finish forth and can be left out for Liverpool/United due to historic merit rofl
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Post by Kick Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:37 am

Hardly surprised.

At the end of the day, having Man City face off against Inter Milan (based off 15/16 finishing places) will always pull more of an audience and make more money than whichever teams from smaller leagues would be playing in their place under current rules.
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Post by juve_gigi Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:44 am

Basically the only way Milan has a shot to beat out the likes of Fiorentina and Sassuolo.

Berlusconi's parting gift to all the Milanisti of the world...

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Post by S Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:45 am

Adit wrote:Boo hoo... Serie A can't win it back so they changed the rules Laughing

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It's the other way round you clown. Serie A were/are very close to beating EPL 4th CL spot.
So it's no surprise to see the rule changed. As if Italian league carries that much influence these days....
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Post by Luca Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:00 am

I can't help but feel like this will greatly help serie a. Lord knows these useless clubs aren't fixing themselves.

Bless you UEFA

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Post by Kaladin Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:12 am

Fantastic news, have to give it to Perez, he's outdone himself
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Post by juve_gigi Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:17 am

So if Inter finishes 4th and Milan finishes 5th, who would get in? Does Milan jump ahead of Inter because of "history"? What would be the definition of history in that case?
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Post by Kaladin Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:31 am

I will email UEFA and get back to you
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Post by juve_gigi Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:57 am

K. Please hurry. I'm anxious to know. Just looking out for my fellow Milanisti fratelli...

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Post by rincon Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:38 am

EPL set to lose 4th spot and they change the rules hmm
Probably good for Serie A in the long run though, although the "historical" 4th spot is some bullsh...
I guess now Milan will be back in the CL regardless of what happens in the league? Sassuolo fans crying everywhere Sad
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Post by dronte Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:10 am

Adit wrote:
More scrubs in cl

How is this.. I don't even.. OK.

Just look at this year's CL qualification knockout round teams and compare them to the top4 of the top 4 leagues.

Anyway, bad move for smaller teams, good move for overall quality, marketing and money.

Not quite sure what to think of it yet, but that historical thing has to be removed asap Very Happy

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Post by iftikhar Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:56 am

And the 4th place of the big 4 will go to some "historically valuable club" however they will calculate that.
How are they going to calculate that??? More lack of transparency IMO. Also, what motivation will a club have if they can get into CL even if they finish mid-table...or worse.
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:02 am

So what are the top 4 leagues then?

No love for Ligue Un?

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Post by rincon Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:05 am

The whole historical value thing seems like its just specifically made for Milan and Liverpool. How pissed would Roma or City be when they finish 4th and don't get CL because 6th placed Milan and Liverpool have to go?
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Post by rincon Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:07 am

Sri wrote:So what are the top 4 leagues then?

No love for Ligue Un?


Top 4 in UEFA coefficients.

Spain 87.141
Germany 66.784
England 62.748
Italy 60.498

France 43.749
Portugal 42.749
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Post by Sri Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:31 am

City under Pep would never finish 4th..

Thanks for the co-efficients.. Never realized that France was so far behind hmm

Also pleasantly surprised to find BuLi above PL but not complaining about this one Very Happy

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Post by rincon Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:15 am

City was just an example, pick any other team that finishes above Liverpool except United (who probably will be ranked higher "historically").

If this goes through then the coefficients would effectively not matter anymore for the top 4, as the results of this year only applies to the CL in 18/19, which is when this would come into play.
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Post by zigra Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:44 am

Yeeeeeah Liverpool.
Think they finished quite often outside the top 4 without any change. However I think there was another english club that missed the top 4 twice in the last 3 years and now we get a change hmm
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Post by M99 Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:49 am

Adit wrote:Boo hoo... Serie A can't win it back so they changed the rules Laughing

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Lmao they are doing this because England is in danger of being overtaken by Italy Laughing

Idiotic post.
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Post by windkick Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:03 pm

This "historical" rule change is dumb as hell, and honestly embarrassing it's even being considered. Whoever finishes in the top 4 should get in, and not get left behind because some other club that finished mid table was slaying it like 30 years ago.



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Post by breva Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:08 pm

nasir6371 wrote:@rwo

That was a rumor about a wild cards for historical merit to make sure teams like Milan and Liverpool can make the UCL Laughing

So I team like Spurs can finish forth and can be left out for Liverpool/United due to historic merit rofl


With Leicester in the CL, Serie A will probably go past the EPL this year and will have 4 teams in the CL and EPL 3 in 2018. They are trying to save 4 spots for the EPL.
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