Re: USA gun violence thread

[Freeza]

Its a very scary thing living there, i don't know how they do it, how do you go to the cinema in an environment like that? Trapped in a darkened room with 50 other people...like just how?

I'm so thankful to never have experienced any shooting or anything like that. I couldn't live a place where it seems like most people have guns and are willing to use them. I don't see the appeal.

I'm sure you would love to live in Switzerland. Culture and mentality is the bigger problem than ownership of guns itself IMO.

Of course culture is a bigger problem. No one has ever said anything else. But an organisation like NRA shouldn't be able to exist like that.

I have a whole lot of problems with American society in general. The Republican party is the main problem.
Poor people voting against their own self-interest. Anti-intellectualism. Fear-mongering. Gerrymandering (goes for Democrats too). I think that the US is f'ed up beyond repair really. And most, if not all, is the reason of their politicians.

War of drugs. War in general. No free education and healthcare for the less fortunate. Over the top capitalism. The impossibility of breaking your social heritage. I would probably never leave Denmark tbf. I feel safe. But there's still much to be done here.

Was at a weapon store last week. And the people owning it were openly selling knives to gang members who bragged about robberies, while they were laughinh together. Wasn't a comfortable experience.

[Freeza]

It is possible to have liberal gunlaws. There should be very thorough background checks. No guns for criminals, license and mental reports etc.

It's also difficult to establish a healthy culture in regards to firearms, when the money in America are so prevalent to everything being passed in congress.

People are afraid of "losing their guns" so they hide them and buy more etc. Which is all a tactic from the NRA to make more money off the less intelligent people. Doubt that's the case in Switzerland.

[DuringTheWar]

lol at the people terrified of freedom, I wish the UK had a second amendment tbh. Life itself is dangerous, strongly disagree with anyone that tries to make it safe by going after people's liberties.
And don't think it isn't obvious why certain people scapegoat the availability of weapons as the reason for violence, rather than focusing on the people doing it and their motivations.

[Firenze]

an 8 year old student has died

[Unique]

an 8 year old student has died

its very sad to hear things like that.

[Firenze]

if Sandy Hook didn't prompt widespread changes then nothing will ever prompt America to change, sad

[zigra]

Agreed however the major problem now is getting the guns off of everybody

The types of people who won't hide their guns and willingly give them up are the types of people who are least likely to use them

Always dreamed of moving to Murica as a kid, still a possibility but unless they at least tone down the gun nonsense it's not my first choice any more.

Happily take my chances in all sorts of fighting situations, but ain't no amount of training going to help you when some *bleep* idiot pulls a gun out 60 ft away and starts spraying out of nowhere.

Agreed though tbh it's not really the major problem right now because right now America won't change any laws anyway. But yeah, once they decide to do that (if ever) it's a major problem and tbh I'm not sure how to solve it (short term).

[Unique]

Agreed however the major problem now is getting the guns off of everybody

The types of people who won't hide their guns and willingly give them up are the types of people who are least likely to use them

Always dreamed of moving to Murica as a kid, still a possibility but unless they at least tone down the gun nonsense it's not my first choice any more.

Happily take my chances in all sorts of fighting situations, but ain't no amount of training going to help you when some *bleep* idiot pulls a gun out 60 ft away and starts spraying out of nowhere.

Agreed though tbh it's not really the major problem right now because right now America won't change any laws anyway. But yeah, once they decide to do that (if ever) it's a major problem and tbh I'm not sure how to solve it (short term).

the problem with laws are crazy people and crminals don't care about them

[Tomwin Lannister]

That's why it can't happen in the foreseeable future

Forcefully taking all the guns out of circulation is impossible, there would be so many ways around it. Murica dun *bleep* themselves up sadly.

[Lucifer]

lol at the people terrified of freedom, I wish the UK had a second amendment tbh. Life itself is dangerous, strongly disagree with anyone that tries to make it safe by going after people's liberties.
And don't think it isn't obvious why certain people scapegoat the availability of weapons as the reason for violence, rather than focusing on the people doing it and their motivations.

It helps if along with motivation you have a semi-automatic that can bought more easily than a condom.

[Myesyats]

lol at the people terrified of freedom, I wish the UK had a second amendment tbh. Life itself is dangerous, strongly disagree with anyone that tries to make it safe by going after people's liberties.
And don't think it isn't obvious why certain people scapegoat the availability of weapons as the reason for violence, rather than focusing on the people doing it and their motivations.

strongly agree with this post

[Firenze]

Active shooter in Cleveland, number he mentions hasn't been confirmed, but he live-streamed  himself murder some random guy on the street via Facebook.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/16/us/cleveland-homicide-facebook-video/index.html?adkey=bn

[El Gunner]

Wow. Just wow. The world

[RealGunner]

shooter is still on the loose

[Myesyats]

What an idiot. Unbelievable. I feel so bad for that nice old man, it was a mistake to watch the video of what he streamed.

This low life should be tortured until he drowns in his own blood.

[Nishankly]

Any articles on how easy Gun licenses started in America and why these laws were never amended?

I too opened the link on twitter expecting something else, Horrible. Why haven't the authorities found the first body yet? The killer claims 15, I hope he's joking.

[Nishankly]

Have they found him? Have they located the site of the first apparent murder?

[Kaladin]

That is horrible and absolutely frightening, thank God i live in a sane country. *bleep* that guy and *bleep* the US for letting stuff like this resume

[Lucifer]

America might be the financial superpower but culturally it is nowhere near the European countries.

[Guest]

America might be the financial superpower but culturally it is nowhere near the European countries.

You mean the place, where in the 21st century Black and south American players are racially taunted on the pitch and have bananas thrown at them? Or the place where Ministers can call nations full of 1+ billion people slant eyes and dog eaters and face no backlash? Or the place where no young person has a job and a bunch of 30 year olds stand outside stadiums and pelt the cars of players they felt didnt play up to scratch?

American culture is widely accepted. There is a reason why Hollywood is spread everywhere. Where Jazz and Rock have long replaced standards from the 18th century. Don't judge us by our worst elements.

[Unique]

America might be the financial superpower but culturally it is nowhere near the European countries.

You mean the place, where in the 21st century Black and south American players are racially taunted on the pitch and have bananas thrown at them? Or the place where Ministers can call nations full of 1+ billion people slant eyes and dog eaters and face no backlash? Or the place where no young person has a job and a bunch of 30 year olds stand outside stadiums and pelt the cars of players they felt didnt play up to scratch?

American culture is widely accepted. There is a reason why Hollywood is spread everywhere. Where Jazz and Rock have long replaced standards from the 18th century. Don't judge us by our worst elements.

if its that bad why do you live there.

[Guest]

America might be the financial superpower but culturally it is nowhere near the European countries.

You mean the place, where in the 21st century Black and south American players are racially taunted on the pitch and have bananas thrown at them? Or the place where Ministers can call nations full of 1+ billion people slant eyes and dog eaters and face no backlash? Or the place where no young person has a job and a bunch of 30 year olds stand outside stadiums and pelt the cars of players they felt didnt play up to scratch?

American culture is widely accepted. There is a reason why Hollywood is spread everywhere. Where Jazz and Rock have long replaced standards from the 18th century. Don't judge us by our worst elements.

if its that bad why do you live there.

I don't live in Europe.

[Nishankly]

America might be the financial superpower but culturally it is nowhere near the European countries.

You mean the place, where in the 21st century Black and south American players are racially taunted on the pitch and have bananas thrown at them? Or the place where Ministers can call nations full of 1+ billion people slant eyes and dog eaters and face no backlash? Or the place where no young person has a job and a bunch of 30 year olds stand outside stadiums and pelt the cars of players they felt didnt play up to scratch?

American culture is widely accepted. There is a reason why Hollywood is spread everywhere. Where Jazz and Rock have long replaced standards from the 18th century. Don't judge us by our worst elements.

if its that bad why do you live there.

Most of his post was about living in Europe

[Unique]

You mean the place, where in the 21st century Black and south American players are racially taunted on the pitch and have bananas thrown at them? Or the place where Ministers can call nations full of 1+ billion people slant eyes and dog eaters and face no backlash? Or the place where no young person has a job and a bunch of 30 year olds stand outside stadiums and pelt the cars of players they felt didnt play up to scratch?

American culture is widely accepted. There is a reason why Hollywood is spread everywhere. Where Jazz and Rock have long replaced standards from the 18th century. Don't judge us by our worst elements.

if its that bad why do you live there.

I don't live in Europe.

I miss read it. I thought you were talking about the USA

[DuringTheWar]

That is horrible and absolutely frightening, thank God i live in a sane country. *bleep* that guy and *bleep* the US for letting stuff like this resume

Disgusting to use his actions to attack innocent people for not giving up their freedom. Put the emotional blackmail where the sun doesn't shine, sonny, and worry instead about how many more freedoms your own society is going to give up because of the terrorism they've imported.

[Tomwin Lannister]

I mean i'm not the most liberal person you'll ever meet but ffs do you honestly trust your average joe to carry a *bleep* portable killing machine? I don't trust half the idiots I see to stop at red lights never mind having emotionally unstable *bleep* *bleep* with access to semi automatic weapons.


As I said now you can't take guns off of people, because the ones who circumvent it are the ones who will end up using them but they shouldn't be in this situation in the first place.


And I know about fighting tyrannical governments and blah blah blah but people need to wake up. When a government wants to control you they don't go on CNN and say "We're instilling a dictatorship try and stop us hurr durrrrr" they subtly control you through media, through laws and manipulation. No arsehole with a walther ppk is going to change that.

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