The 2014/15 Calcio Saga

RED wrote:That was one of the worst refereeing performance I've seen in ages. Up there with Clattenberg.

absolutely it was no foul on pogba he just dived. and when he fell, it wasnt even in the penalty box... it was just right in the marginal area.

Roma played beautifully the whole game and it was sad that manolas got sent off because he was absolutely great. Morata was a bit aggressive, first at naingolaan and then at Manolas

Robbery for what? Only thing you can argue at Pogba's penalty if there was a contact or not. Otherwise nothing. Marchisio was fouled at 7' in a clear goalscoring opportunity and Rocchi didn't give a sh*t. But of course the rage blinds the haters.

Also, at the Manolas incident the ref was like 'I got no idea what happened just gonna give both of them a red', while Morata got a clear tackle, then Manolas shoved and heatbutted him.. Seriously.
If I wanted to be totally un-biased I'd say Morata should have got a yellow at most, for dangerous play.

But clearly the ref should have controlled the game a lot earlier but he was totally incompetent for that.

what about that third goal ?

2 juventus players were blocking the goalie's  view .

that's an offside in my book .

dronte wrote:Robbery for what? Only thing you can argue at Pogba's penalty if there was a contact or not. Otherwise nothing. Marchisio was fouled at 7' and Rocchi didn't give a sh*t.

Also, the Manolas incident the ref was like 'I got no idea what happened just gonna give both of them a red', while Morata got a clear tackle, then Manolas shoved and heatbutted him.. Seriously.
If I wanted to be totally un-biased I'd say Morata should have got a yellow at most, for dangerous play.

well most neutral incl. me thinks that referee sucked and his poor judgement cost Roma a defeat.
and Morata was a bit aggressive at Naingolaan he should have got yellow by then. then he made that needless slide and obviously had physical contact on Manolas that provoked fight.

but referee was disaster. Roma played beautiful game and i thought roma didnt deserve to loose nor they should have been penalized when pogba fell. Pjanic didnt even touch pogba

entertaining game but obviously Roma was deprived and robbed of this game...

JespSwe wrote:entertaining game but obviously Roma was deprived and robbed of this game...

yes..

farfan wrote:what about that third goal ?

2 juventus players were blocking the goalie's  view .

that's an offside in my book .

yes , according Sky  it was offside.

JespSwe wrote:

dronte wrote:Robbery for what? Only thing you can argue at Pogba's penalty if there was a contact or not. Otherwise nothing. Marchisio was fouled at 7' and Rocchi didn't give a sh*t.

Also, the Manolas incident the ref was like 'I got no idea what happened just gonna give both of them a red', while Morata got a clear tackle, then Manolas shoved and heatbutted him.. Seriously.
If I wanted to be totally un-biased I'd say Morata should have got a yellow at most, for dangerous play.

well most neutral incl. me thinks that referee sucked and his poor judgement cost Roma a defeat.
and Morata was a bit aggressive at Naingolaan he should have got yellow by then. then he made that needless slide and obviously had physical contact on Manolas that provoked fight.

but referee was disaster. Roma played beautiful game and i thought roma didnt deserve to loose nor they should have been penalized when pogba fell. Pjanic didnt even touch pogba

Yea he should have got a yellow for Nainggolan's foul, but that was another case. This one hardly deserved a yellow..
My Roma supporter friend told me Pjanic got Pogba's leg, I missed the replays though, only saw it live so.

farfan wrote:what about that third goal ?

2 juventus players were blocking the goalie's view .

that's an offside in my book .

Are you serious or just trolling?

Based on this, every goal is offside that's coming out of the box and the attacker team has players offside. That's just stupid. You can argue with the penalties if you want, but this, no way.

dronte wrote:


Are you serious or just trolling?

yes  , i'm trolling .

so are sky italia , canal  + ( spanish ) , and bein sports .

farfan wrote:

dronte wrote:


Are you serious or just trolling?

yes  , i'm trolling .

so are sky italia , canal  + ( spanish ) , and bein sports .

Interesting, I watched canal+ and they said it was a totally legit goal. Both of our players were metres away from the goalie, and in the middle of the box while the shot went to the bottom right corner.

farfan wrote:

dronte wrote:


Are you serious or just trolling?

yes  , i'm trolling .

so are sky italia , canal  + ( spanish ) , and bein sports .

This game should have ended in a draw. A card happy, kneejerk reaction ref is to blame not Juve. He didnt show any favoritism tonight he clearly collapsed under player pressure in the first half instead of allowing the game to move on. Had any of those situations been switched to Roma, he still would have made the same calls.

Its a shame, but dont start with the bullshit "Rube Rube cheater cheater" stuff, blame Serie A for appointing such an awful ref for a big game.

Ex.:

dronte wrote:

JespSwe wrote:

dronte wrote:Robbery for what? Only thing you can argue at Pogba's penalty if there was a contact or not. Otherwise nothing. Marchisio was fouled at 7' and Rocchi didn't give a sh*t.

Also, the Manolas incident the ref was like 'I got no idea what happened just gonna give both of them a red', while Morata got a clear tackle, then Manolas shoved and heatbutted him.. Seriously.
If I wanted to be totally un-biased I'd say Morata should have got a yellow at most, for dangerous play.

well most neutral incl. me thinks that referee sucked and his poor judgement cost Roma a defeat.
and Morata was a bit aggressive at Naingolaan he should have got yellow by then. then he made that needless slide and obviously had physical contact on Manolas that provoked fight.

but referee was disaster. Roma played beautiful game and i thought roma didnt deserve to loose nor they should have been penalized when pogba fell. Pjanic didnt even touch pogba

Yea he should have got a yellow for Nainggolan's foul, but that was another case. This one hardly deserved a yellow..
My Roma supporter friend told me Pjanic got Pogba's leg, I missed the replays though, only saw it live so.

farfan wrote:what about that third goal ?

2 juventus players were blocking the goalie's view .

that's an offside in my book .

Are you serious or just trolling?

well, based on what i saw in replay, i thought pjanic didnt touch pogba. Pjanic did make that slide on pogba and pogba possibly did jump to avoid contact but thats about it. referee was right in front of them and gave penalty. and thast why i thought ok this is going to change the course of the game because Roma were leading.

the first penalty for juve was also a bit weird because referee couldnt make good call. well at the game of this magnitude one would expect to have a better official. he was a fail for sure.

but just saying that Roma didnt deserve to loose like this. at most draw.

Focusing on the match itself, we outplayed Roma in the second half especially after Morata came on.

The only problem we had the whole match was Gervinho. Man, this guy can easily twist and turn any of our defenders (except Chiellini lol). Best performer on the pitch for Roma.

Juveman17 wrote:This game should have ended in a draw. A card happy, kneejerk reaction ref is to blame not Juve. He didnt show any favoritism tonight he clearly collapsed under player pressure in the first half instead of allowing the game to move on. Had any of those situations been switched to Roma, he still would have made the same calls.

Its a shame, but dont start with the bullshit "Rube Rube cheater cheater" stuff, blame Serie A for appointing such an awful ref for a big game.

Ex.:

thats pathetic stat of rocchi indeed. how the hell he was appointed for game of this magnitude is beyond me. he made everyone look like a bad guy!

dronte wrote:Focusing on the match itself, we outplayed Roma in the second half especially after Morata came on.

The only problem we had the whole match was Gervinho. Man, this guy can easily twist and turn any of our defenders (except Chiellini lol). Best performer on the pitch for Roma.

gervinho pjanic totti and manolas was great , and i thought they didnt even play their best because they looked frustated with referee. aand besides with the likes of strootman and de rossi not there.... it was admirable performance by Roma.

i thought Roma would have seriously challenged to win had it not been for referee.

dronte wrote:

farfan wrote:

dronte wrote:


Are you serious or just trolling?

yes  , i'm trolling .

so are sky italia , canal  + ( spanish ) , and bein sports .

Interesting, I watched canal+ and they said it was a totally legit goal. Both of our players were metres away from the goalie, and in the middle of the box while the shot went to the bottom right corner.

i'm pretty sure the guy with the high pitched voice kept yapping about something during the replay .

still , being sport ( french ) . sky italia ( according to robes )

JespSwe wrote:

Juveman17 wrote:This game should have ended in a draw. A card happy, kneejerk reaction ref is to blame not Juve. He didnt show any favoritism tonight he clearly collapsed under player pressure in the first half instead of allowing the game to move on. Had any of those situations been switched to Roma, he still would have made the same calls.

Its a shame, but dont start with the bullshit "Rube Rube cheater cheater" stuff, blame Serie A for appointing such an awful ref for a big game.

Ex.:

thats pathetic stat of rocchi indeed. how the hell he was appointed for game of this magnitude is beyond me. he made everyone look like a bad guy!

exactly my point

Totti:"I don't know if it's referee fault or someone else fault. With Juventus, every dubious penalty turns into penalty for them"

Didn't watch the game, but heard there was a lot of controversy.

Juve cheating

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2idstk/the_controversial_words_of_francesco_totti_after/cl19vpa

Those juve fans are idiots.

Either way, this has nothing to do with Calciopoli at all. So saying "Refs favor juve" is irrelevant now and is just a sad tbh. Calciopoli was 8 years ago ffs....

Juve cheating? Wtf? Are we having childish reactions again?

How is any person under contract with this club, director, janitor, player or whatever at fault for that awful refereeing? Not even with Calciopoli were we ever convicted for match-fixing. So stop blaming any Juve-related person or fan for the result of this game.
Direct your hate towards the referee and the ones that designated him to a game of this importance..like you would do if it was any other team except Juve who was being favored.

I won’t go about telling you how I don’t believe Roma was robbed of a win (as any logical person knows that there is no way to predict how the game would have ended should one or two incidents happened differently) as you will all say I’m biased as a Juve fan.

My opinion is that both teams benefited from this madness (like that non-existent fault, for which Chiellini got a yellow card, that led to Roma’s penalty) and the fair result would’ve been a 1-1 with all 11 players on the field. But, hey!, that just my biased-Juve opinion, right?

Nah, Rube are ladri and we still buy refs to this day. Because that's the logical conclusion of course.

I personally don't think Juve cheated. Rocchi was just utterly awful at his job, was consistently inconsistent and got nearly every decision wrong. Juve just so happened to benefit from that horror show more than Roma. It really could've gone either way in that regard.

Whatever though....we lost and we have to deal with that.

What should we take from this game though? What I take from it is that Juve are more vulnerable than ever before. They went from shutting us out completely last season to shipping 2 goals in 1 half. And what's more is that Roma did this without 6 of their best players and their coach, who was sent off in the middle of the half. Barring Barzagli and a half-fit Pirlo and Vidal. We saw the strongest side Allegri could possibly have put out and Roma took them all the way, clearly outplaying them for spells, something unheard of at Juventus Stadium. I think it is frightening to imagine what a side with DDR, Strootman, and Castan would've done to impact this game.

Make no mistake about this match. Despite the loss, Roma have made an unmistakable statement here and I think Juve received it loud and clear. They're going to watch their backs all season now and when they slip up (because I definitely believe they will do just that), Roma will be there to pounce on that mistake.

My life feels empty without a gif of Garcia playing his violin. Someone pls.