Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

by Jay29 Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:31 am

Arsenal not moving for Remy now isn't necessarily indicative of a lack of interest, but more likely suggests that he's a third or fourth choice target that the club will only move for if they can't secure one of their more preferred choices.

I don't feel it's necessary for us to have three forwards, though. Giroud plus a new forward would be enough on its own, as well as having Sanogo or Akpom still around, and the options of Walcott and Podolski. Giroud, Remy plus another "top" forward guarantees that one of them will barely see the pitch unless we played with two strikers.

by urbaNRoots Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:36 am

MJGunner wrote:With Costa, Luis, Tiago, Villa and Courtois all on the way out, I doubt very much that Atletico would part ways with Juanfran cheaply.

That's the cool thing, he only has a €10m release clause Very Happy

If we can convince him to leave Atletico he's ours.

by urbaNRoots Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:15 am

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Lukaku. Yay or nay?

by MJ Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:49 am

If Mourinho wouldn't loan us Ba..

There's a difference if a striker is forcing his way out but as a player I do like Lukaku.

by Jay29 Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:03 am

I like him but even if we overlook the fact that Chelsea likely wouldn't sell to us, his price tag will be huge, especially if he has a good World Cup. I can see them asking for £30mil or more, easily.

by djoe26 Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:29 am

Yay to lukaku but Chelsea wouldnt sell us.

by MJ Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:57 pm

This is just conjecture but I'm curious to see if it's plausible or not.

If Chelsea have a £33million bid accepted for Cesc then that means Barca get £16.5million, yeah?

So wouldn't a £18-20million bid from Arsenal be more enticing? And cheaper?

Because I'm still unsure whether it's 50% of the profit or fee. Urban said it was fee* though.

by Jay29 Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:04 pm

According to this, it's 50% of the fee, not the profit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8703312/Arsenals-sense-of-loss-from-Cesc-Fabregas-departure-softened-by-clauses-in-his-Barcelona-contract.html

by Chumlum Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:25 pm

7amkickoff does a few comparisons based on stats & skill sets, concludes that £30 million or so on Alexis Sanchez would be a really good option for Arsenal.

http://news.arseblog.com/2014/06/ding-dong-cesc-is-dead-who-should-arsenal-buy-with-30m-instead/

by MJ Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:43 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:According to this, it's 50% of the fee, not the profit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8703312/Arsenals-sense-of-loss-from-Cesc-Fabregas-departure-softened-by-clauses-in-his-Barcelona-contract.html

Hmm.

So if Chelsea really are in with £33million then what do you guys think of popping in with a £18-20m bid? Still conjecture here.

Surely Cesc and Barca would be more willing + the price is considerably lower for a player I still believe we could use.

It would still be a £34million swing though. We'd be forgoing £16.5m from whoever buys him and investing a further £18m to actually buy him.

by djoe26 Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:48 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:According to this, it's 50% of the fee, not the profit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8703312/Arsenals-sense-of-loss-from-Cesc-Fabregas-departure-softened-by-clauses-in-his-Barcelona-contract.html

Moar money. I still cant believe he is going to Chelsea Sad

by RealGunner Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:58 pm

Shitter things have happened

by RealGunner Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:58 pm

Twitter bullshit going around that Balotelli's representatives are in England.

by Jay29 Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:23 pm

MJGunner wrote:Hmm.

So if Chelsea really are in with £33million then what do you guys think of popping in with a £18-20m bid? Still conjecture here.

Surely Cesc and Barca would be more willing + the price is considerably lower for a player I still believe we could use.

It would still be a £34million swing though. We'd be forgoing £16.5m from whoever buys him and investing a further £18m to actually buy him.

Bidding £33mil and getting 50% of that back due to the sell-on.

Waiving the sell-on and bidding £16.5mil.

It's the same deal, isn't it? Arsenal will end up spending the same amount either way, and Barcelona end up with the same amount of money received either way.

And this is assuming the sell-on works in the way we think it does.

EDIT: Lots of people saying it's 50% of the profits, which would make more sense; £33mil is similar to what Barcelona paid us initially, so they wouldn't have to owe us much money if they sold for that amount. If they were going to lose 50% of the fee the asking price would be much higher, I think.

by Sina Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:43 pm

would Barca sell Alexis?if so,how much the asking price would be?

by VendettaRed07 Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:37 pm

If Mata got ostracized under Mou.. Can only imagine the same sort of thing happening to Cesc. I mean, Cesc doesn't seem like the sort of player that Mou likes.. He'll just get benched for Oscar

by urbaNRoots Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:20 pm

I thought so too, seems like an Abramovich signing. But then you never know, maybe he's juzt tired of Oscar who's just not really that good.

by MJ Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:27 pm

It only took a few months for clubs to figure Barcelona out with Cesc, he failed everywhere he was deployed at least in that he affected everyone else's form negatively.

If he's set to partner Matic I'm really intrigued as to how that'll work.

by VendettaRed07 Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:47 pm

Guys.. We need to buy Fabian Johnson. He has been so class at RB.

Can play in either fb position.. Or even in midfield. He'd slot in perfectly with us

by RedOranje Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:13 am

You're in for a surprise if you think Fabian Johnson is the answer at RB. Plays a lot like the other "Johnson" you're familiar with seeing in that position: can be quite good in attack but is very inconsistent, particularly defensively.

by RealGunner Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:23 am

Not to mention, he just signed for BMG

by Kick Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:30 am

Guys, it's 27m pounds.

33m Euros.

by MJ Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:17 am

Point remains very much the same.

The Daily Mail claim Balotelli is Arsenal's main striker target in a £20m move this summer.

by urbaNRoots Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:03 pm

According to Spanish sports daily, AS, Real Sociedad president Jokin Aperribay, one of the board of directors and vice president Ángel Oyarzun flew to London to secure the 50% rights retained by Arsenal following his sale to the Basque side last summer.

http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/111621/real-sociedad-travel-to-london-to-secure-full-rights-from-arsenal-for-carlos-vela/

by Kick Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:18 pm

MJGunner wrote:Point remains very much the same.

The Daily Mail claim Balotelli is Arsenal's main striker target in a £20m move this summer.

Not if it is profit and not fee.

by MJ Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:52 pm

Kick wrote:
MJGunner wrote:Point remains very much the same.

The Daily Mail claim Balotelli is Arsenal's main striker target in a £20m move this summer.

Not if it is profit and not fee.

Like I said, all conjecture so it's the all the same, no matter the currency. Was talking about if it were fee as the Telegraph said it was.

Apparently we're after Schneiderlein and Grenier?

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