El Clasico: Real Madrid vs Barcelona discussion

Iniesta is genius ffs



Clear pen

DuringTheWar wrote:
What are the chances he didn't know he was there? what are the chances he couldn't easily avoid him?

Ive debated with you before about decisions like this and I already know your bias stops you from seeing sense. So, those were rhetorical questions I asked, I don't want a dumb debate about this

Everyone is biased. You for example almost always take the side of the team that is playing against Barca/Messi.

And for the guy who said that it was a foul on Busquets, I never said that. What I meant with that was that he was being hindered..

One of the newspapers 'DT El Comercio' posted this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjc1X4mCEAAkhZ9.jpg

harhar11 wrote:

DuringTheWar wrote:
What are the chances he didn't know he was there? what are the chances he couldn't easily avoid him?

Ive debated with you before about decisions like this and I already know your bias stops you from seeing sense. So, those were rhetorical questions I asked, I don't want a dumb debate about this

Everyone is biased. You for example almost always take the side of the team that is playing against Barca/Messi.

And for the guy who said that it was a foul on Busquets, I never said that. What I meant with that was that he was being hindered..

Everyone is biased, some can still be rational though. When exactly have I taken the side against Barcelona? when they got away with several flagrant decisions against Chelsea, the disgraceful rvp incident, and now when busquet brushes metal across pepes face. I cant remember anything else. I don't think any of that's bias, its just reasonable.

Btw lets say its accidental, is there a reason why instead of lifting his foot up he dragged his foot along pepes face. Too weak to lift his foot up?

penalty for me. You can clearly see Ramos foot hit Neymar's trailing leg. Accidental contact though.

i still cant comprehend that just a minimal touch is a penalty or a foul. i guess if the wind were to blow  , barca players would be crying for penalty... no offense...

Brady2Moss wrote:

penalty for me. You can clearly see Ramos foot hit Neymar's trailing leg. Accidental contact though.

It is literally impossible to tell if there is a touch from that angle

DuringTheWar wrote:

It is literally impossible to tell if there is a touch from that angle

Notsureifserious.gif

The gif looks like he hits the ground near his foot not his actual foot.

It looks like Neymar clipped himself.

JespSwe wrote:i still cant comprehend that just a minimal touch is a penalty or a foul. i guess if the wind were to blow  , barca players would be crying for penalty... no offense...

Its penalty even if you think its not. Neymar got benefit of the doubt. Where madrid got conpleletly non existance penalty.  

So yet barca should won this 3-2. Where as usual Real got punished for their thuggery. Its their fault not to play varane.
He is miles ahead of Ramos.

Every clasico when real madrid lose its ref fault. Early season they got all the help from ref. It was incredible.

Do people really believe that wasn't a clear penalty on Neymar?

Maybe it wasn't intentional. I don't know but it looked like Ramos clearly clipped him from behind.

I agree that Neymar needs to stop diving and exaggerating contact but this looked pretty straightforward to me.

In my view I can see Neymars legs go up and then bounce back down once it makes contact with Ramos' leg. Seems pretty clear to me, but that's just my humble opinion. I fail to see how that is not a penalty.

What matters now, that this season RM got raped twice by Barcelona... Messi scored another hattrick this time at the bernabau.., Real Madrid has flopped again in a big game [1 from 12 possible points against Barcelona & Atletico].... #FLOPS


Funny that all the talk about Neymar's penalty from RM fans, although its 100 times clearer than CR who was fouled outside the box and dived into the box...

See you on 16 April, cry babes...

There are just two things 100% sure here:
1. CR penalty should not stand, and
2. Mous crybaby butthurt philosophy is still strong among RM players and fans.

Brady2Moss wrote:

DuringTheWar wrote:

It is literally impossible to tell if there is a touch from that angle

Notsureifserious.gif

You and everyone else that agree are just looking at the effect neymars leg made. Yes, it moved as though it was clipped, he hit his foot in the ground as though ramos caught the back of his heel. It is not impossible that neymar did that deliberately, neymar in particular is someone well trained on how to sell an imaginary foul and make it look convincing.

With that in mind, it is impossible to see from that angle whether there actually was an actual contact. After reading this, I will wholeheartedly call anyone that disagrees here a LIAR

Khaled wrote:What matters now, that this season RM got raped twice by Barcelona... Messi scored another hattrick this time at the bernabau.., Real Madrid has flopped again in a big game [1 from 12 possible points against Barcelona & Atletico].... #FLOPS


Funny that all the talk about Neymar's penalty from RM fans, although its 100 times clearer than CR who was fouled outside the box and dived into the box...

See you on 16 April, cry babes...

getting raped? stay calm and wank to messi double pens

Here's a clear gif and it shows the clear contact of Neymar's penalty...

http://shrani.si/f/2U/Uv/1nGvlYKI/pen.gif

chad4401 wrote:

Khaled wrote:What matters now, that this season RM got raped twice by Barcelona... Messi scored another hattrick this time at the bernabau.., Real Madrid has flopped again in a big game [1 from 12 possible points against Barcelona & Atletico].... #FLOPS


Funny that all the talk about Neymar's penalty from RM fans, although its 100 times clearer than CR who was fouled outside the box and dived into the box...

See you on 16 April, cry babes...

getting raped? :lol:stay calm and wank to messi double pens

conceding 4 goals at the bernabeu, its called being raped.... especially after all the hype...

it could have been 3-0 in 1st 15 minutes, if Messi & Ney didn't miss one on ones...
both penalties were also 1 on 1 chances... Alves shot hitting the post etc...

I don't really see how much contact there lol

FFS

Yeah, or that was just him moving his leg forward at the same time Ramos moved his leg across, you can't flipping tell from directly behind. You know why? Because ramos is in the way. Can someone not just post a gif from an angle were someone's body is not in the way of it. And I didn't realize neymars right foot was in question as it was the left that he clearly either made or faked contact with

Ancelotti: "It is true Messi scored three goals, but we controlled him well. Two were penalties. Our control of Messi was good."

I guess Messi's assist and goal was a result of their "control"

There were other slo mos during the game, Ramos simply clips his heel from behind, only lightly, sure, but still always a pen and a red in that situation.

The Busquets-Pepe one is really strange.
Because while I also don't buy Busquets doesn't know that Pepe's head is there, there's just about so little pressure that it seems to me more like a controlled, VERY menacing gesture than an actual violent conduct.

If it was accidental, like 'oops what's that, a head..' you'd expect him to look down and check afterwards, which he doesn't.

Anyway, Pepe is so busy playacting from the imaginary head butt that he doesn't seem to realize there's an even bigger opportunity to playact right there lol.

Very ugly thing, though.

Khaled wrote:Here's a clear gif and it shows the clear contact of Neymar's penalty...

http://shrani.si/f/2U/Uv/1nGvlYKI/pen.gif

lol that gif enhances the wrong detail, that's absolutely nothing with Neymar's right foot

Dani "best fullback in Bundesliga" Carvajal.



"Oh, there is Iniesta on my flank, let me just stay 10 yards away from him."