El Clasico: Real Madrid vs Barcelona discussion

The Spanish Football Federation have confirmed that they will investigate Sergio Ramos and Cristiano Ronaldo’s comments post-Clasico.

The Real Madrid pair accused referee Alberto Undiano Mallenco of bias towards Barcelona in their 4-3 defeat on Sunday.

And RFEF have revealed that Spain’s Referees’ Committee [CTA] have reported the duo to the Federation.

The Committee, which meets on Wednesdays, will now discuss whether Ramos and Ronaldo’s remarks are worth a retrospective punishment.

All precedents point to a fine, with Pep Guardiola, Gerard Pique and Angel Di Maria all having previously been found guilty of remarks against officials.

Lord Spencer wrote:Unlike Messi, both CR and Neymar are bloody drivers.

Frankly, anyone here who say either the CR or Neymar pens are legit should get wither their eyes or even better their brains checked.

CRs was a foul, but he clearly jumped into the box trying to get a pen. It was not a red however, and did not destroy Barca completely.

Neymar in the other hand, who is one of the worst divers the game produced for a quite some time clearly looked for the contact instead of going for the ball. Ramos clearly stopped his run in order not grant him that contact but Neymar backed his leg on Ramos's and fell down like the bitch he is. It is a dive that equals that of Gilardino's worst dive, and anyone who contests it is just being biased.

Contact you say, well blow me sideways and call me Harriette, Football is, wait for it, a contact sport. It is bloody natural for legs to brush of each other while playing and only a full swing of the legs or the arms can be considered a "tackle". Ramos was simply running and he didn't even run into Neymar at full speed when the bitch threw himself down like an Olympic champion.

Also, let us speak of the "principles" involved, which seems like a lot of you just abandon willingly in support of your "teams". Which is both laughable and sad since the performance of your teams adds nothing to your self worth, however your moral conduct towards sporting behavior does. Neymar clearly fell down looking for the pen, which both grants them a scoring opportunity  and sends off Ramos. Neymar willingly decided to stimulate a foul to get his opponent sent off.

Regardless of your football loyalty, you should be appalled at this act of disgusting unsportsmanlike conduct. True, "your" team got three points and are now not out of the title race, but did you truly deserve it.

Lord Spencer wrote:Unlike Messi, both CR and Neymar are bloody drivers.

Frankly, anyone here who say either the CR or Neymar pens are legit should get wither their eyes or even better their brains checked.

CRs was a foul, but he clearly jumped into the box trying to get a pen. It was not a red however, and did not destroy Barca completely.

Neymar in the other hand, who is one of the worst divers the game produced for a quite some time clearly looked for the contact instead of going for the ball. Ramos clearly stopped his run in order not grant him that contact but Neymar backed his leg on Ramos's and fell down like the bitch he is. It is a dive that equals that of Gilardino's worst dive, and anyone who contests it is just being biased.

Contact you say, well blow me sideways and call me Harriette, Football is, wait for it, a contact sport. It is bloody natural for legs to brush of each other while playing and only a full swing of the legs or the arms can be considered a "tackle". Ramos was simply running and he didn't even run into Neymar at full speed when the bitch threw himself down like an Olympic champion.

Also, let us speak of the "principles" involved, which seems like a lot of you just abandon willingly in support of your "teams". Which is both laughable and sad since the performance of your teams adds nothing to your self worth, however your moral conduct towards sporting behavior does. Neymar clearly fell down looking for the pen, which both grants them a scoring opportunity  and sends off Ramos. Neymar willingly decided to stimulate a foul to get his opponent sent off.

Regardless of your football loyalty, you should be appalled at this act of disgusting unsportsmanlike conduct. True, "your" team got three points and are now not out of the title race, but did you truly deserve it.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:You are the last man, you have a clear 1 on 1, a defender makes contact with you and destabilizes you,maybe not enough for you to fall, but enough that you no longer have a clear chance. You know that if you don't fall the chances of the ref calling the pen are almost zero. You know that if you do fall you can win the game.

90% of the players would make the same decision. It's not diving if there was contact, it's embellishing. It's easy to stay on your feet when your center of balance is by your ankles. Most players, though, are human and don't have that benefit.

And there was clear contact. In Nerman's case it was a foul inside the box; the rules are pretty clear, that's a penalty. With Cristiano no one can blame the ref for thinking it was inside the box.

eelir wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:Unlike Messi, both CR and Neymar are bloody drivers.

Frankly, anyone here who say either the CR or Neymar pens are legit should get wither their eyes or even better their brains checked.

CRs was a foul, but he clearly jumped into the box trying to get a pen. It was not a red however, and did not destroy Barca completely.

Neymar in the other hand, who is one of the worst divers the game produced for a quite some time clearly looked for the contact instead of going for the ball. Ramos clearly stopped his run in order not grant him that contact but Neymar backed his leg on Ramos's and fell down like the bitch he is. It is a dive that equals that of Gilardino's worst dive, and anyone who contests it is just being biased.

Contact you say, well blow me sideways and call me Harriette, Football is, wait for it, a contact sport. It is bloody natural for legs to brush of each other while playing and only a full swing of the legs or the arms can be considered a "tackle". Ramos was simply running and he didn't even run into Neymar at full speed when the bitch threw himself down like an Olympic champion.

Also, let us speak of the "principles" involved, which seems like a lot of you just abandon willingly in support of your "teams". Which is both laughable and sad since the performance of your teams adds nothing to your self worth, however your moral conduct towards sporting behavior does. Neymar clearly fell down looking for the pen, which both grants them a scoring opportunity  and sends off Ramos. Neymar willingly decided to stimulate a foul to get his opponent sent off.

Regardless of your football loyalty, you should be appalled at this act of disgusting unsportsmanlike conduct. True, "your" team got three points and are now not out of the title race, but did you truly deserve it.

Let us speak principles, if CR is a foul as you yourself say, Neymar's is too. Please enlighten me, was Neymar brought down inside or outside the line like CR did? Thank you.

EDIT: Also why not mention a not called penalty earlier for Neymar? We should have been 2 up at that point so all in all RM can perform crybaby rituals taught by Mou all day long while in reality deep down inside they know they've just been screwed two times and will probably win the league without beating their nemesis.

3:4 @Bernabey with weakest Barca side in years against strongest RM in years!

eelir wrote:I would have loved to see what would have happened if Neymar got the first penalty and CR not get his and see what happened once we are 2 up!

BTW Neymar was nicked in full run at the keeper. 100% penalty. even most RM fans think so, check this poll by a RM based media.
http://www.marca.com/debate/2014/03/150927/pinta-votaciones150927.html

You'll see it is convincing votes in favor of penalty of Pepe to neymar and 51% think that Neymar deserved the call from Ramos. This is RM based media.

Your facts are opinions like mine, it just happens that most of the people agree with mine.

Take care, and don't get to nervous about this. It is just a game, and we were little bit better than RM, but surely deserved the win.

Scuderio wrote:i mean really? REALY??!?! you guys won because madrid went 1 man down. THAT'S IT. the penalty call that tied the game plus making madrid go 1 man down and after that madrid went down hill. I insist. Barca is nothing without Messi and yesterday it was proven. Ronaldo didn't perform, but heck, atleast the rest of the team did. You needed 3 goals form messi to win. FACT. 11 vs 10, that is saying everything. I would have love to see what would have happened if Neymar got the penalty Ramos gave him but DIDN'T get send off.

Lupi wrote:This game reminded me of why i stopped watching football apart from Roma .I learned my lesson and turned of the tv

still waiting for Barcelona to beat a team with 11 men , is that even possible ?

harhar11 wrote:

Scuderio wrote:i mean really? REALY??!?! you guys won because madrid went 1 man down. THAT'S IT. the penalty call that tied the game plus making madrid go 1 man down and after that madrid went down hill. I insist. Barca is nothing without Messi and yesterday it was proven. Ronaldo didn't perform, but heck, atleast the rest of the team did. You needed 3 goals form messi to win. FACT. 11 vs 10, that is saying everything. I would have love to see what would have happened if Neymar got the penalty Ramos gave him but DIDN'T get send off.

So let's see. Barca are nothing without Messi, but Messi is nothing without Xavi and Iniesta. Great to be back here again.

And in case you have not noticed it, but MESSI IS A BARCA PLAYER! Of course that Barca will depend on him, because he is by faaaaaar the best player in the world, no one is even close. But that does not mean that we are nothing without him. I mean, when he was out injured, we were great this season. Tata was getting alot of compliments on the fact that he had destroyed the fact that we were messidepent.

Scuderio wrote:

eelir wrote:I would have loved to see what would have happened if Neymar got the first penalty and CR not get his and see what happened once we are 2 up!

BTW Neymar was nicked in full run at the keeper. 100% penalty. even most RM fans think so, check this poll by a RM based media.
http://www.marca.com/debate/2014/03/150927/pinta-votaciones150927.html

You'll see it is convincing votes in favor of penalty of Pepe to neymar and 51% think that Neymar deserved the call from Ramos. This is RM based media.

Your facts are opinions like mine, it just happens that most of the people agree with mine.

Take care, and don't get to nervous about this. It is just a game, and we were little bit better than RM, but surely deserved the win.

lol really? 51% thats a lot.........11 vs 10 made the whole difference, thats it.

Scuderio wrote:I never mentioned xavi or iniesta. I said without messi, barca is nothing.

eelir wrote:

Scuderio wrote:

eelir wrote:I would have loved to see what would have happened if Neymar got the first penalty and CR not get his and see what happened once we are 2 up!

BTW Neymar was nicked in full run at the keeper. 100% penalty. even most RM fans think so, check this poll by a RM based media.
http://www.marca.com/debate/2014/03/150927/pinta-votaciones150927.html

You'll see it is convincing votes in favor of penalty of Pepe to neymar and 51% think that Neymar deserved the call from Ramos. This is RM based media.

Your facts are opinions like mine, it just happens that most of the people agree with mine.

Take care, and don't get to nervous about this. It is just a game, and we were little bit better than RM, but surely deserved the win.

lol really? 51% thats a lot.........11 vs 10 made the whole difference, thats it.

Right from RM media dude! plus majority agree Pepe fouled Neymar and should have gotten a penalty and that CR shouldn;t have gotten a penalty. So, 51% from marca is reason enough for me to call your FACTS bullshit.

eelir wrote:

Scuderio wrote:

eelir wrote:I would have loved to see what would have happened if Neymar got the first penalty and CR not get his and see what happened once we are 2 up!

BTW Neymar was nicked in full run at the keeper. 100% penalty. even most RM fans think so, check this poll by a RM based media.
http://www.marca.com/debate/2014/03/150927/pinta-votaciones150927.html

You'll see it is convincing votes in favor of penalty of Pepe to neymar and 51% think that Neymar deserved the call from Ramos. This is RM based media.

Your facts are opinions like mine, it just happens that most of the people agree with mine.

Take care, and don't get to nervous about this. It is just a game, and we were little bit better than RM, but surely deserved the win.

lol really? 51% thats a lot.........11 vs 10 made the whole difference, thats it.

Right from RM media dude! plus majority agree Pepe fouled Neymar and should have gotten a penalty and that CR shouldn;t have gotten a penalty. So, 51% from marca is reason enough for me to call your FACTS bullshit.

EDIT: What would have happened if Neymar got his call on Pepe and RM did not get the penalty? Please do elaborate if you are so objective?

harhar11 wrote:

Scuderio wrote:I never mentioned xavi or iniesta. I said without messi, barca is nothing.

Of course you didn't, but that's how it tends to go. When people are comparing Barca to Real Madrid, they say that Barca are nothing without Messi. But once the topic changes to Messi vs C.Ronaldo, the same who said that Barca are nothing without Messi, say that Messi is nothing without Xavi and Iniesta..

And btw, Iniesta was brilliant last night. So there goes your stupid comment about Barca being nothing without Messi..