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Post by BarcaLearning Sat May 25, 2024 7:15 pm

Not sure where to put this, but Man U winning the FA Cup means they will be in the Europa League next season, dropping Chelsea into the Conference League n Newcastle misses out, so:

CL - Man C, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa
EL - Spurs, Man U
CL - Chelsea

Surely one of the big teams will beat Aston Villa for top 4 again next season, will it be Chelsea? Man U? Spurs? Or even Newcastle?
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Post by El Gunner Sun May 26, 2024 9:25 am

yea i think Villa are naturally gunna drop off with the addition of CL football, and even more so if they lose Ollie Watkins

think Arsenal and City are going to be the top 2 again, wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool falls into that pool of teams vying for the last two CL spots and Europa.

Will be interesting to see if Palace can maintain the form they ended with this past season, and push themselves into that pool


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Post by El Gunner Sun May 26, 2024 9:26 am



and this is what we are going up against... watch the entire thread
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Post by Firenze Sun May 26, 2024 9:32 am

Another 'incredible' season for Arsenal just gone where they end up with NOTHING and we end up with a trophy

levels

gonna build on our silverware success and win the league next season Proud
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Post by Vibe Mon May 27, 2024 10:30 am

Saw some clips of Man City bus parade on X, streets are empty Laughing

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Post by Arquitecto Tue May 28, 2024 7:39 am

City had by far and all the worst Ucl Celebration of all
time. That’s nearly unanimously agreed upon.

And to top it off it was their first.

Still remember speaking to old head Salford fans whilst in Rutland and they couldn’t believe how bad it was.
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Post by Glory Tue May 28, 2024 7:57 am

El Gunner wrote:

and this is what we are going up against... watch the entire thread


Lol luckily we arent anytime competing at the top and our demise kind of coincided with their rise. In a weird way it helped with maintaining sanity. I mean knowing we are so shit but have the 'luxury' to worry only about ourselves. Kind of therapeutic lol. Cant imagine the trauma Pool fans have gone through and now Arse fans are starting to go through. Every fricking year and its not going to stop either. You build a top team, play so well all through the season only for these fucks to win at the end without breaking a sweat aided by external 'helps' like these. Lol its like everything starts to align and you are peaking playing exceptional football and then there is this Thanos sitting on his space throne bored, letting you enjoy initially to make it  interesting and then in the  end killing your hopes mercilessly. Hope we remain shit drunken

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Post by El Gunner Tue May 28, 2024 9:25 am

yea man terrible timing for us, even worse when you get rival fans dunking on your team on social media but you are playing winning football you just so happen to go up against a corrupt juggernaut.

but i won't let that take away any of the joy of what we've built under Arteta, trophies aren't the be all and end all of football
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Post by Arquitecto Tue May 28, 2024 9:27 pm

Trophies indeed are the be all end all of football and anything else is pure cope. But

Arsenal did have a brilliant season and the star of it all is Arteta above all. Pep is leaving next summer as it is so Arsenal statistically are due for a trophy

Where is that cranky German geriatric Hans who took every chance to shit on Arteta when he could

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Post by futbol_bill Tue May 28, 2024 10:18 pm

If you are like Arsenal or Atletico or Dortmund or Roma, in being a big club but not big enough to compete with the likes of City, RMad or Barca, Bayern, Juve or either of the Milans, then a second place finish is considered an achievement. The are hundreds of clubs that can’t compete with the big boys, but that doesn’t make them failures. Clubs have to operate within their financial capability. When was the last time Arsenal won the league? Getting up to challenge for the championship right to last day is indeed an accomplishment. Compare that performance to ManU, a club with as much financial capability as City and not able to finish anywhere close to top. Now that’s a failure! And don’t tell me getting a cup championship makes up for their abysmal leaque performance.


Arq, i think you are letting EG’s whining, complaining cloud your judgement.
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Post by El Gunner Wed May 29, 2024 8:05 am

@Arq, of the thousands and thousands of football clubs around the world only 2 to 5% consistently win trophies, and that is mostly due to spending power in today's world. So if trophies are the be all and end all of football, tell me why do Bristol City fans continue to get up every morning on match day and go support their teams?

@bill, i wouldn't say either of the Milan teams are bigger clubs than Arsenal. Maybe in terms of European heritage, but not spending power and worldwide following.
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Post by futbol_bill Wed May 29, 2024 12:50 pm

@EG, i was comparing the teams I listed compared to the Teams in their league that are the normal leaders of the pack.
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Post by El Gunner Wed May 29, 2024 1:22 pm

understood Thumbs up
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 29, 2024 7:53 pm

El Gunner wrote:@Arq, of the thousands and thousands of football clubs around the world only 2 to 5% consistently win trophies, and that is mostly due to spending power in today's world. So if trophies are the be all and end all of football, tell me why do Bristol City fans continue to get up every morning on match day and go support their teams?

@bill, i wouldn't say either of the Milan teams are bigger clubs than Arsenal. Maybe in terms of European heritage, but not spending power and worldwide following.


In hopes for that one win to be the raindrop that makes a storm of wins to win the trophy.

Saying so otherwise is needless romanticism and it just so happens they are supporting their home club (most of them).


We're lucky to support huge clubs with histories. Them, its definitely harder I am sure.
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Post by El Gunner Wed May 29, 2024 8:56 pm

you're so full of it
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Post by Glory Thu May 30, 2024 6:40 am

Arquitecto wrote:Trophies indeed are the be all end all of football and anything else is pure cope. But

Arsenal did have a brilliant season and the star of it all is Arteta above all. Pep is leaving next summer as it is so Arsenal statistically are due for a trophy

Where is that cranky German geriatric Hans who took every chance to shit on Arteta when he could



That accounts to nothing in modern football imho. Next season Arsenal could get a long term injury to one of their key players, or a variety of different factors could throw a spanner in the works for them. This season they were largely lucky with regard to availability of main players and tbf you need that luck when you are up against City who will be basically flawless in the second half of the season. As EG said rightly its all about the timing and its been terrible for them. For every top team there will be a shelf life, 5-6 years perhaps max. You have to achieve maximum in that period before the next transition. And Arsenal have entered that territory with the team they have assembled. Its unfortunate any team that's taken years and careful planning at all levels to built comes up against a corrupt organization that's put together by bending and breaking rules.

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Post by Casciavit Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:53 am

Arsenal need that A-level ceiling raiser forward to win the PL. I also think for Arteta's rep he needs to win the PL before Pep leaves, because if he doesn't then that will always be an asterisk hanging over his head.

City is always my favorites for the PL, and with the manager turnaround this season that's still the case. That said there has to come a point, where Arsenal finally get across the line. Maybe they need a City point deduction to do so. Laughing
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:24 am

a manager that wins 95% of the league titles he competes for, with corrupt Sheiks helping him? there will be no such asterisk hanging over Arteta
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Post by Casciavit Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:29 am

I mean I personally wouldn’t believe that way. Just referring to social media narratives.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:57 pm

Return of Lasciavit, the irony
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Post by El Gunner Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:01 pm

does "L" mean he has a bunch of L takes? lol
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Post by Casciavit Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:10 pm

No it’s a reference to a GL chat meme from 10 years ago. Casciavit is one of AC Milan’s old nicknames, while Lasciavit means leave. Arq would write Lasciavit instead sometimes lol.
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Post by Casciavit Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:11 pm

Vibe wrote:Return of Lasciavit, the irony


You’ve posted more in the last few months than you did for years. What gave you that urge to make a comeback? Good to see you back again.
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Post by Vibe Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:56 pm

I just love this place.

Never been on any other forum or anything on the internet but GL Proud

I think it's mainly me having different interests than most people in my life and I come here to discuss my sport, television, games and life in general.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:40 pm

El Gunner wrote:you're so full of it


Full of it is your romanticised intangible posts that are basically cope for Arsenal and shoehorning the lack of trophies in Arsenals laughable history since Wenger last won. The fucking irony Laughing
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