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Post by Onyx Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:30 am

Barcelona vs Real Madrid discussion.

Sunday 7th October.

Real Madrid drew 4-4 on aggregate against Barcelona in the Super Cup back in August, however won on away goals.

Real Madrid beat Barcelona 2-1 on 21st April 2012 away.

Real Madrid lost 3-1 to Barcelona at the Bernabeu on 10th December 2011.

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Post by Die Borussen Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:47 am

arbeloa-pepe-ramos-coentrao/marc
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--------xabi-----modric-------essien---
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--di maria------benz------cr7-----------


one of the most if not the most important game of the season

i expect the team to give everything

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:39 am

I don't want Cacktrao against Barca. He'll ruin everything.
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Post by Die Borussen Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:12 pm

what are you talking about
coentrao has been always very good against barca

we need to have the best possible defence
and im saying defence, marcelo offers more upfront
but i really dont trust him against barca as you saw in the last game he did quite a few mistakes thank god iker was there
plus its not like coentrao is bad offensively, he is very good too..

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:04 pm

Ninis wrote:what are you talking about
coentrao has been always very good against barca

we need to have the best possible defence
and im saying defence, marcelo offers more upfront
but i really dont trust him against barca as you saw in the last game he did quite a few mistakes thank god iker was there
plus its not like coentrao is bad offensively, he is very good too..

Have you seen Marcelo in the SuperCup ? He created 3 chances for Higuain/CR that could have finished easily. He's better offensively by a long,long shot and on the same level deffensivley.
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Post by Die Borussen Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:04 pm

in supercup he failed to track back twice, and he could cost the game in the last minutes if not for iker's save

i know other than his impressive actions in the final third he can as well drive the ball from our defence without wasting possession but coentrao can do that as well
even if coentrao is only Slightly better defensively ill take it
you need your best possible defence cause i think we will manage to score with or without marcelo

we just need to not concede
if mou is thinking the same way and if coentrao not playing last games cause of his ban isnt a factor for his presence on the pitch that day then i believe he will start
and will get subbed in marcelo later in the game for either a comeback or just fresh legs and counter game

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Post by crazzyblanco Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:31 pm

for once i really want us to field an attacking line up!! common mou!! go with this

contrao-ramos-pepe-marcelo
-----xabi--------modric/ozil-----
-----------ozil/kaka------------
dimaria----benzema/higuain----cr7

just let them have a go and see who scores more!!
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Post by crazzyblanco Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:32 pm

sends a real message this line up!! we're here to win and win handsomely!!
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Post by Jack Daniels Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:04 pm

crazzyblanco wrote:for once i really want us to field an attacking line up!! common mou!! go with this

contrao-ramos-pepe-marcelo
-----xabi--------modric/ozil-----
-----------ozil/kaka------------
dimaria----benzema/higuain----cr7

just let them have a go and see who scores more!
They will.
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Post by the xcx Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:13 pm

---------------------Iker
Arbeloa---Ramos---Pepe---Marcelo
----------------Xabi-------Modric------------
---------------------Özil-------------------
--------Di maria-------------CR7----
---------------------Benzema------------

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Post by LeVersacci Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:22 pm

If Mou plays Ramos as RB against Ajax, then I can see him playing as a RB against Barca.

Although not sure if he'll play a 3 man midfield or the usual 4-2-3-1

either way 4-3-3

-------Benzema
Ronaldo-Özil-Di Maria
Modric-Khedira
------Alonso
Marcelo/Coentrao-Pepe-Varane-Ramos

or

Benzema
Ronaldo-Özil-Di Maria
Alonso-Khedira
Marcelo/Coentrao-Pepe-Varane-Ramos

Again not sure what lineup he'll play and who starts lol
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:52 pm

Casillas
Arbeloa Pepe Ramos Marcelo
Xabi Essien
Di Maria Ozil Cristiano
Benzema

This is my fav 11, but Mou will choose Sami over Essien.
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Post by crazzyblanco Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:02 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:
crazzyblanco wrote:for once i really want us to field an attacking line up!! common mou!! go with this

contrao-ramos-pepe-marcelo
-----xabi--------modric/ozil-----
-----------ozil/kaka------------
dimaria----benzema/higuain----cr7

just let them have a go and see who scores more!
They will.

no they wont. You're forgetting that they really dont have a defence right now. Mascherano and song against ronaldo and co?? you really think they'll still outscore us??
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:40 pm

Hope Khedira rests against Ajax like he usually does pre-clasicos

Also wouldn't be surprised if we saw Benzema from start in both Ajax and Clasico

The rest of the line-up is pretty much the same as always, don't think Mou will field Essien, because we aren't the ones with the 8 point lead, we need to win this game at all costs, although Ozil might see himself on the bench if he hasn't got a tremendous performance against Ajax, we might actually see Modric as an AM again
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Post by LeVersacci Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:03 pm

crazzyblanco wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:
crazzyblanco wrote:for once i really want us to field an attacking line up!! common mou!! go with this

contrao-ramos-pepe-marcelo
-----xabi--------modric/ozil-----
-----------ozil/kaka------------
dimaria----benzema/higuain----cr7

just let them have a go and see who scores more!
They will.

no they wont. You're forgetting that they really dont have a defence right now. Mascherano and song against ronaldo and co?? you really think they'll still outscore us??
With our laughable finishing then yes..

Getting tired to see us missing chances after chances in each clasico game..
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Post by pewpew Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:43 pm

LeDNA wrote:With our laughable finishing then yes..

Getting tired to see us missing chances after chances in each clasico game..
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:03 pm

Ramos-Pepe-Varane-Marcelo
-----------Alonso----------
----Khedira-----Essien----------
-Di Maria---------------Ronalo---
-----------Higuain-----------


Sub on Benz Modric and Ozil
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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:28 pm

I can't choose between Benzema and Higuain. benzema offers more overall but Higuain's runs can really hurt Barca's defence.
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Post by Real Kandahar Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:43 pm

Arb...ramos... pepe...marcelo
............essien...alonso....

ozil......modric........ronaldo
..............benz
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:51 pm

Why would we drop Di Maria.

He has been murdering everything in his path and we're just gonna drop?
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Post by Die Borussen Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:04 pm

i wouldnt start ozil tbh

and benching di maria is laughable, and not happening in a million years
other than his good form he is like 2 players on the pitch

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Post by Mamad Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:05 pm

Di Maria is our best player atm. no way mou benches him in Clasico.
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Post by Real Kandahar Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:06 am

modric would a better option than ozil, but ozil would be better option than di maria (at least against barcelona)

essien helps keep the ball and provides physicality .. (not as much as khedira due to injuries)

Ramos is unreliable on the RB, he will get skinned by tello LOL arb provides solidity.

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Post by Cyborg Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:18 am

Ninis wrote:i wouldnt start ozil tbh

and benching di maria is laughable, and not happening in a million years
other than his good form he is like 2 players on the pitch


wouldnt start ozil

What!! ozil has been our best player in the last seat of clasicos we played

he has been a genius at instigating the counter and running at defender. he will start

di maria is mourinhos work horse, he help out arbeloa at defending and his attacking is great as well

i think there will be no suprises, same starting eleven as the super copa.

higuain will start benzema will come on just like the super copa win
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Post by Jack Daniels Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:44 am

crazzyblanco wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:
crazzyblanco wrote:for once i really want us to field an attacking line up!! common mou!! go with this

contrao-ramos-pepe-marcelo
-----xabi--------modric/ozil-----
-----------ozil/kaka------------
dimaria----benzema/higuain----cr7

just let them have a go and see who scores more!
They will.

no they wont. You're forgetting that they really dont have a defence right now. Mascherano and song against ronaldo and co?? you really think they'll still outscore us??
You're forgetting that they'll have more possession than they ever will without a defensive adept player beside Alonso. Plus we play at Camp Nou, It's entirely different especially the fact that they are more comfortable in possession in their home stadium.

How do you suppose to protect our back four with that line-up? Messi will have a field day spraying through balls to their wide players with Marcelo and Coentrao as our defensive cover.

You don't play two attacking Fullbacks especially with the other one out of position just for the sake of an Hollywood looking line-up.

The last time we played we Dominated them in the first half but we only managed to score two and they were playing with 10 men half the time. What makes you think we'll do better this time?

And yes we will probably score but i doubt we will win.

This is not FIFA. Even in FM that line up will probably fail.

Let us be realistic here.
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