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Post by juventus101 Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:32 pm

At this point, with Xavi and Pirlo both declining, Madrid and Bayern bringing in some new signings, etc, which team has the strongest midfield?
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:37 pm

It's between Barca, Bayern, Arsenal(if they keep this form) and Juve.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:42 pm

What are Madrid doing being mentioned in a thread about best midfields? Laughing Laughing

Still Barca. Only Bayern and Juve get close but with Lahm playing holding midfielder I don't see how they can take this one and Juve's is player for player worse than Barca's.
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Post by flameas Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:49 pm

If in top form its DDR. The best all-round midfielder.
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Post by Hawky Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:14 pm

It's between Barca, Bayern and Juventus clearly. Not sure which one I would pick, I think it depends on the style that you want your team to play in.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:43 pm

I think I have to be honest and say Bayern right now.

Iniesta is the best individual midfielder and Busquets is no lower than third to me, but I think Bayern have the edge right now.

With the ball, nobody is better than Barca's. Period.

But Bayern I think are better without it and close enough with the ball. I need to see what Pep does with Martinez though, without him I think they lack the physicality which makes them different in that area.

For me, Juventus lack creativity in comparison to these two and I have no idea why Madrid are even mentioned, their midfield has held them back for years.
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Post by Gil Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:02 am

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Post by Kick Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:37 am

The Franchise wrote:I think I have to be honest and say Bayern right now.

Iniesta is the best individual midfielder and Busquets is no lower than third to me, but I think Bayern have the edge right now.

With the ball, nobody is better than Barca's. Period.

But Bayern I think are better without it and close enough with the ball. I need to see what Pep does with Martinez though, without him I think they lack the physicality which makes them different in that area.

For me, Juventus lack creativity in comparison to these two and I have no idea why Madrid are even mentioned, their midfield has held them back for years.
I would agree with this, Bayern a just top class in everything right now.
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 am

Yep, Buyern. Lahm - Schweini - Kroos :bow::bow:
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:39 pm

Bayern really. Followed by Barca. Then there are some midfields on similar level.

I'd say our midfield is up there too along with Roma's.
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Post by Highburied Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Ramsey, Wilshere and Oezil.

All young and promising.

Right now is Bayern followed by Joe Allen lol

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Post by Onyx Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:16 pm

Modric and Isco have potential.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:18 pm

Modric doesnt, what you see is what he is.
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Post by Onyx Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:20 pm

Yeh not individually, but as a duo.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:23 pm

I agree. But I dont think Madrid will be in the conversation untill they solve the "other" guy. Be it Khedira, Casemiro, Illa, whoever.

And even then, they gotta work together like your saying.
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Post by aant123 Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:41 am

Not sure what Juve, Madrid and Arsenal are doing in this list. imo it's either Bayern or Barca depending on whether you prefer the short-passing and creativity of Barca or the physicality and all-round game of Bayern. Assuming Pep drops the Lahm as DM experiment once Martinez is fit and goes with Martinez-Kroos-Schweini, i'd go with Bayern. Ridiculous depth too.

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Post by ioilersrock448 Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:54 pm

Lahm, Martinez, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in the central mid. It's Bayern and it's not close.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:01 pm

ioilersrock448 wrote:Lahm, Martinez, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in the central mid. It's Bayern and it's not close.
If it is Bayern it is close. I haven't seen anything from Bayern's midfield that would suggest they would dominate Barca's midfield. Even in the 7-0 Barca's midfield still had control of the game, even if they were thoroughly out-muscled. Now that Barca and Bayern play under similar systems it would be interesting to see them match up. I haven't seen much of Lahm as a DM so I can't comment on that, but Iniesta is miles better than Kroos and Xavi and Schweini are on similar levels. I think if Bayern and Barca met today the difference between midfields would not be as large as you suggest.

So to recap
Tier 1: Barca, Bayern
Tier 2: Juve, Roma, Arsenal
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Post by The Franchise Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:08 pm

The "and its not close" is always a lump of crap, I dunno why people insist on using it. I get it for exaggeration purposes, but this aint the thread for it.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:48 pm

It wasn't Bayern's midfield that dominated Barca anyway it was their wings.

Lahm/Robben and Alaba/Ribery is what ripped them apart.

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Post by McAgger Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:54 pm

For me it's Roma's midfield >> Barca/Bayern. Absolutely f*ckin brilliantly balanced. Pace, power, work-rate, technique, composure, mobility, versatility, intelligence, etc, etc.

They'd be one of the best teams in the world if they had a world class forward (someone who could win games all by himself), better fullbacks, maybe another CB and GK. A younger Totti would've been that forward but he isn't anymore. Pity.
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Post by S Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:11 pm

McAgger wrote:For me it's Roma's midfield >> Barca/Bayern. Absolutely f*ckin brilliantly balanced. Pace, power, work-rate, technique, composure, mobility, versatility, intelligence, etc, etc.

They'd be one of the best teams in the world if they had a world class forward (someone who could win games all by himself), better fullbacks, maybe another CB and GK. A younger Totti would've been that forward but he isn't anymore. Pity.
Calm down.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:24 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
ioilersrock448 wrote:Lahm, Martinez, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in the central mid. It's Bayern and it's not close.
If it is Bayern it is close. I haven't seen anything from Bayern's midfield that would suggest they would dominate Barca's midfield. Even in the 7-0 Barca's midfield still had control of the game, even if they were thoroughly out-muscled. Now that Barca and Bayern play under similar systems it would be interesting to see them match up. I haven't seen much of Lahm as a DM so I can't comment on that, but Iniesta is miles better than Kroos and Xavi and Schweini are on similar levels. I think if Bayern and Barca met today the difference between midfields would not be as large as you suggest.

So to recap
Tier 1: Barca, Bayern
Tier 2: Juve, Roma, Arsenal
More possession =/= dominating midfield. Barca's mid was eaten by Bayern's home and away. (not saying that they are better, they were in ridiculous form in the 2 matches).

Iniesta is the most overrated player in the world btw
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Post by harhar11 Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:05 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
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ioilersrock448 wrote:Lahm, Martinez, Kroos and Schweinsteiger in the central mid. It's Bayern and it's not close.
If it is Bayern it is close. I haven't seen anything from Bayern's midfield that would suggest they would dominate Barca's midfield. Even in the 7-0 Barca's midfield still had control of the game, even if they were thoroughly out-muscled. Now that Barca and Bayern play under similar systems it would be interesting to see them match up. I haven't seen much of Lahm as a DM so I can't comment on that, but Iniesta is miles better than Kroos and Xavi and Schweini are on similar levels. I think if Bayern and Barca met today the difference between midfields would not be as large as you suggest.

So to recap
Tier 1: Barca, Bayern
Tier 2: Juve, Roma, Arsenal
More possession =/= dominating midfield. Barca's mid was eaten by Bayern's home and away. (not saying that they are better, they were in ridiculous form in the 2 matches).

Iniesta is the most overrated player in the world btw
You do know that you can destroy a team without dominating the midfield, right? and that's precisly what Bayern did. Like The great leader said, it was the wingers that destroyed us.

Iniesta overrated? Yeah, sure... :facepalm:

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Post by jibers Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:14 pm

McAgger wrote:For me it's Roma's midfield >> Barca/Bayern. Absolutely f*ckin brilliantly balanced. Pace, power, work-rate, technique, composure, mobility, versatility, intelligence, etc, etc.

They'd be one of the best teams in the world if they had a world class forward (someone who could win games all by himself), better fullbacks, maybe another CB and GK. A younger Totti would've been that forward but he isn't anymore. Pity.
Sober up mate
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