Re: Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.IX

by The_Badger Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:56 pm

FalcaoPunch wrote:Honda could possibly transfer to a bigger club but needs to take a pay cut? Really?

Isn't it the other way around when making a career move like that?

It's admirable and rare in the modern game. Fair play to him.

by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:58 pm

I'm sure he'd be a very popular person in Japan and would already be making good money from a lot of endorsements so in such situations money would become secondary i guess especially when wanting to make a move to a big recognizable club in world football.

by Firenze Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:04 pm

they probably told him come in January for free or take a paycut and we'll get you in now

Either way as a fan of his who rarely ever watches the Russian league..this is just another reason to be excited for the upcoming Serie A season. I may even watch the occasional game that clashes with the GOAT league. :coffee:

by M99 Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:05 pm

Honda and Ljajic Proud

by RedOranje Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:18 pm

If Arsenal want an "amicable" deal they're about a week and a bid late. Any chance of such a deal developing went out the window with that £40m + 1 bid.

by M99 Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:19 pm

Besiktas president Ahmet Nur Cebi has confirmed the club have made an offer for Atletico Mineiro playmaker Ronaldinho.

The former Barcelona forward, who has less than six months remaining on his current deal, has enjoyed a new lease of life in recent months, prompting speculation a return to Europe could be possible for the 33-year-old.

And the Turkish side's president has revealed he has taken the first step towards making such a move happen.

Cebi told reporters: "We have submitted a bid to Atletico Mineiro and now we are waiting for an answer."

On Thursday, Besiktas coach Slaven Bilic expressed his ambition to lure the former Selecao international to the club.

Ronaldinho, who joined Cuca's men from Flamengo last summer, played a major role in the Brazilian outfit's first ever Copa Libertadores title win last month.

by sportsczy Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:20 pm

RedOranje wrote:If Arsenal want an "amicable" deal they're about a week and a bid late. Any chance of such a deal developing went out the window with that £40m + 1 bid.

Yeah... i thought that was very disingenuous by Wenger. He lies a lot nowadays. I'm starting to get annoyed by him tbh.

by FalcaoPunch Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:20 pm

The_Badger wrote:
FalcaoPunch wrote:Honda could possibly transfer to a bigger club but needs to take a pay cut? Really?

Isn't it the other way around when making a career move like that?

It's admirable and rare in the modern game. Fair play to him.

Looking at it from that way, you're right. And kudos to Honda if he accepts that.

I look at it as, in today's modern game with a club such a Milan, it'd be a bit embarrassing to sign a top rated player and actually offer him less than what he's making currently.

Are Milan that cash strapped atm?

by The_Badger Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:21 pm

It'd be nice to see Ronaldinho back in Europe, the little buck-toothed wizard.

by The_Badger Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:23 pm

FalcaoPunch wrote:
The_Badger wrote:
FalcaoPunch wrote:Honda could possibly transfer to a bigger club but needs to take a pay cut? Really?

Isn't it the other way around when making a career move like that?

It's admirable and rare in the modern game. Fair play to him.

Looking at it from that way, you're right. And kudos to Honda if he accepts that.

I look at it as, in today's modern game with a club such a Milan, it'd be a bit embarrassing to sign a top rated player and actually offer him less than what he's making currently.

Are Milan that cash strapped atm?

I think there's have a sizable debt they have to service, plus Galliani is a master when it comes to shrewd deals.

by Kaladin Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:24 pm

Its not that we're cash strapped (We're cash strapped btw), but the fact that CSKA are demanding quite a lot for a player that is going to be free in January. We're also balancing our budget for 1-2 more signings apparently (speculation)

by M99 Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:31 pm

Yeah, 5 million for someone with 4 months left on his contract is ridiculous.

by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:32 pm

Looking at it from that standpoint seems ridiculous. However, if Honda can help Milan pick up plenty of points in the first half of the season, the 5M will have been a small price to pay compared to possibly missing out on CL revenue next season.

by FalcaoPunch Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:35 pm

Would him being free in January, shouldn't that affect his transfer fee?

I guess I can see CSKA trying to milk a bit more than they should given the circumstance. Regardless, Milan will be a good move for Honda. (He must also see this consider a drop in wages)

The fact his wages would drop just surprised me.

by Onyx Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:44 pm

Newell's Old Boys defender Santiago Vergini, who was linked to Barca, apparently joins Estudiantes.

by Kaladin Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:04 pm

Honda apparently loves Milan and it has been his dream to join us, also his idol is Savicevic so a wage reduction to join his dream club sounds plausible

by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:05 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Honda apparently loves Fiorentina and it has been his dream to join us, also his idol is Savic so a wage reduction to join his dream club sounds plausible

by Kaladin Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:07 pm

by M99 Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:11 pm

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:22 pm

by RealGunner Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:33 pm

RedOranje wrote:If Arsenal want an "amicable" deal they're about a week and a bid late. Any chance of such a deal developing went out the window with that £40m + 1 bid.

Do you reckon the deal is completely off?

by stevieg8 Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:36 pm

RealGunner wrote:
RedOranje wrote:If Arsenal want an "amicable" deal they're about a week and a bid late. Any chance of such a deal developing went out the window with that £40m + 1 bid.

Do you reckon the deal is completely off?

That's what the quote sounded like to me... Sounds like Wenger's covering his bases for when they decide Suarez isn't worth Liverpool's valuation.

by RealGunner Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:36 pm

Personally i am still confident. Call it blind faith if you will.

by RealGunner Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:37 pm

Anyone heard any rumours about Soldado failing the medical at Spurs?

by RedOranje Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:42 pm

RealGunner wrote:
RedOranje wrote:If Arsenal want an "amicable" deal they're about a week and a bid late. Any chance of such a deal developing went out the window with that £40m + 1 bid.

Do you reckon the deal is completely off?

Nah. If Arsenal feel like coming in with a Bale-sized bid then Liverpool will probably still let things play out... though it certainly won't be "amicable" regardless. But to quote an article I've already shared at least once:

Chris Bascombe - The Telegraph wrote:
Liverpool themselves could request the Premier League to ask Arsenal on what basis they bid £40,000,001. It is contrary to League regulations for a rival club to be given access to confidential contract details of an opposing player. There are no Liverpool plans at this stage to pursue a complaint against the Londoners, although at the highest level of the Merseyside club there is a feeling bidding an additional pound was "rubbing Liverpool’s noses in it".

It has ensured no further approaches by Arsenal are welcome at Anfield.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10212420/Luis-Suarez-unmoved-by-Arsenals-provocative-bid-for-Liverpool-striker-as-Uruguayans-exit-clause-not-triggered.html

Liverpool are no longer interested in hearing from Arsenal period, even bids in the previously quoted £50-55m range will likely not be received positively at this point. Arsenal's little (failed) attempt at the footballing equivalent of insider trading has backfired. Arsenal's chances of striking a deal have only dropped, and any chance of an "amicable" deal are completely out the window.

by sportsczy Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:42 pm

RealGunner wrote:Anyone heard any rumours about Soldado failing the medical at Spurs?

seriously? Laughing

That would be troll material for years...

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