Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

by REWB Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:57 am

im going to enjoy calling him Gareth Faile, when he goes to rm. Very Happy

by Gil Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:59 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Is there a proper way to analyse Bale?

Bale scored 21 goals last season in the EPL, Suarez and RvP scored more.

In La Liga Negredo, Falcao, Soldado, Messi and Ronaldo scored more than Bale.

So I'm not sure why we want to pay €100m for Bale.

However the argument here could be he's younger, supposedly a good dribbler, good at long shots and quick. But I don't think that makes him worth €100m.

La Liga is a joke and its easier to score in Spain.

by Motogp69 Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:01 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Is there a proper way to analyse Bale?

Bale scored 21 goals last season in the EPL, Suarez and RvP scored more.

In La Liga Negredo, Falcao, Soldado, Messi and Ronaldo scored more than Bale.

So I'm not sure why we want to pay €100m for Bale.

However the argument here could be he's younger, supposedly a good dribbler, good at long shots and quick. But I don't think that makes him worth €100m.

Talents that make Bale special: 1) He is only 24 and not even in his prime yet; 2) he has an endless gas tank so it saves your team a tactical sub; 3) Unlike the players listed above, Bale is an attacking midfielder who works as hard defensively as he does offensively; 4) he isn't a finished product and can still improve his game in terms of ability and technique ; and, 5) the x-factor, he can win games on his own without good service.

by lszanto Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:02 am

McAgger wrote:Is there a stat showing how many long range shots Bale takes and his conversion rate?

I'd be interested in this, he seems to take a huge amount of shots but people only watch/remember the goals, not the large amounts of wasted shots leading up to it.

by Realmadridchris1 Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:03 am

Signing bale will signal the barca dominance for the next couple of seasons. For the first time in a while the controversy has been on their side. I feel like for once our camp has been quiet but all these bale rumors are ruining our summer. With our squad as it stands we will beat barca and win la liga lets hope he does not come.

by Kaladin Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:04 am

Arq summed it up perfectly Proud

by Firenze Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:06 am

Gareth Bale scored nine goals from distance in the 2012/13 Premier League, but only ranks joint sixth in terms of accuracy. The Spurs man had 77 shots from outside of the area this season, converting 12%, equal to the likes of Robert Snodgrass (three goals), Shaun Maloney (three goals) and Frank Lampard (three goals).

- Opta stats via Talksport

In case you hold conversion rate in high regard for some reason, consider this;

Once again, it's a case of whatever Spurs can do, Arsenal can do just that little bit better, and waltzing in at number one is the Gunners' German international Lukas Podolski. Despite scoring five less goals than Bale from outside the box, Podolski took only 12 shots from distance this season, scoring a whopping 33% of them

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:08 am

Tbh i'm more with Gil here

Let's not laugh at Bale because he takes long shots ffs

I'm sure his long shot conversion rate is low, but what regular long shot taker doesn't have a low conversion rate? And I mean regular.

He is a very good player, he is not worth 100M obviously but there's no denying his abilities.

by Gil Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:13 am

Stats don't belong in football besides how many of Bales long rangers were game winners, in big games or the last 5-10 minutes.

He's one of the most decisive players I've ever seen.

by Donuts Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:18 am

Bale and Ronaldo to waste all Madrid's chances on long range shots Very Happy

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:19 am

MadridiCanada wrote:
Lex wrote:Hitting and hoping = good at long shots

Arsenal still finished above Tottenham

yes yes yes!!

Agreed

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:20 am

Firenze wrote:
Gareth Bale scored nine goals from distance in the 2012/13 Premier League, but only ranks joint sixth in terms of accuracy. The Spurs man had 77 shots from outside of the area this season, converting 12%, equal to the likes of Robert Snodgrass (three goals), Shaun Maloney (three goals) and Frank Lampard (three goals).
- Opta stats via Talksport

In case you hold conversion rate in high regard for some reason, consider this;
Once again, it's a case of whatever Spurs can do, Arsenal can do just that little bit better, and waltzing in at number one is the Gunners' German international Lukas Podolski. Despite scoring five less goals than Bale from outside the box, Podolski took only 12 shots from distance this season, scoring a whopping 33% of them

Firenze

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:23 am

Pretty much all Bale's long shots were game winners and a majority came in closing minutes of games.

The hate for him is bordering on the ridiculous.

by Motogp69 Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:24 am

Lex wrote:
Firenze wrote:
Gareth Bale scored nine goals from distance in the 2012/13 Premier League, but only ranks joint sixth in terms of accuracy. The Spurs man had 77 shots from outside of the area this season, converting 12%, equal to the likes of Robert Snodgrass (three goals), Shaun Maloney (three goals) and Frank Lampard (three goals).
- Opta stats via Talksport

In case you hold conversion rate in high regard for some reason, consider this;
Once again, it's a case of whatever Spurs can do, Arsenal can do just that little bit better, and waltzing in at number one is the Gunners' German international Lukas Podolski. Despite scoring five less goals than Bale from outside the box, Podolski took only 12 shots from distance this season, scoring a whopping 33% of them

Firenze

and Wenger didn't play him at CF, but convinced he needs a CF :facepalm:

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:26 am

More like trying to justify the hype by ignoring the cons is bordering on ridiculous

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:28 am

Motogp69 wrote:
Lex wrote:
Firenze wrote:
- Opta stats via Talksport

In case you hold conversion rate in high regard for some reason, consider this;

Firenze

and Wenger didn't play him at CF, but convinced he needs a CF

Wenger tried Poldi upfront. Didn't work.

by Motogp69 Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:36 am

Lex wrote:
Motogp69 wrote:
Lex wrote:
Firenze

and Wenger didn't play him at CF, but convinced he needs a CF
Wenger tried Poldi upfront. Didn't work.

For what 2 games? He didn't remotely get an extended run in the position but Wenger gave Giroud and even Walcott real chances at locking down the position.

Anyways, back on topic.

by Lex Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:50 am

Poldi lacked fitness for most of the season. Only a fool would start a player carrying a knock upfront in the latter half of the season, especially when every game was a must win

back on topic 2.0

by B-Mac Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:21 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Pretty much all Bale's long shots were game winners and a majority came in closing minutes of games.

The hate for him is bordering on the ridiculous.

well it's Arsenal fans and Madrid fans who don't want Perez spending €100m

other then that most unbiased posters don't hate :coffee:

come home Bale ffs Proud

by B-Mac Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:51 am

Mirror wrote:Manchester United are keen on Bale if Tottenham decide they are ready to sell the 24-year-old this summer.

get outta here Madrid Evil or Very Mad

by Winter is Coming Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:32 am

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Mirror wrote:Manchester United are keen on Bale if Tottenham decide they are ready to sell the 24-year-old this summer.

get outta here Madrid

lol we all know Levy will sell him to RM, regardless of what United may have to offer.

by Red Alert Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:57 am

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Pretty much all Bale's long shots were game winners and a majority came in closing minutes of games.

The hate for him is bordering on the ridiculous.

well it's Arsenal fans and Madrid fans who don't want Perez spending €100m

other then that most unbiased posters don't hate

come home Bale ffs

Southampton would fight for the league ffs. :bow:

by M99 Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:53 am

AS: Real Madrid to offer €98,000,000 plus Fabio Coentrao for Gareth Bale.

I don't even....

by Onyx Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:56 am

So basically Bale's an average dribbler, but quick, good at long shots and his main strength is scoring goals in the last 10 minutes?

I think his 'last minute goalscoring' ability is something that has to be proven for another season.

So without taking into account his 'last minute goalscoring' ability, how much is he actually worth?

Not discrediting his 'last minute goalscoring' ability though. It's just one of those things that has to be proven.